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Title: Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2006, 02:36:45 PM
In case you haven't heard already, Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was seriously injured in a motorcycle accident and is undergoing surgery.  He was not wearing a helmet.  

I am praying for him, but I am also p*****, bigtime.  Just because wearing a helmet is not a law doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.  When he gets better, he should not be allowed to ride again (though I seriously doubt he will, after that).  He has the money, so why didn't he buy a sportscar instead of a motorcycle?  And everyone knows regular vehicles are less likely to get you into an accident.


Whocares Edit: No cussing!
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on June 12, 2006, 03:14:54 PM
Yeah, no doubt! I mean, look at a motorcycle's riding properties.

It only has two wheels; no outer armor levels of any kind; no airbags; it's smaller, which makes others more oblivious to its prescence; and much more!

Seriously, though, why do we think humans invented helmets, anyway? To help prevent head injury! All because there's, stupidly, not a law out there that prohibits non-helmet useage, that doesn't mean that you should take the advantage of being stupid yourself (sorry if I sound too rash) and not wear one, ultimately risking your life. It's just not smart!
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: newbkyng on June 12, 2006, 03:30:21 PM
well this is stupid... worst link i ever clicked!
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on June 12, 2006, 03:32:43 PM
Well, then, no offense, but if you don't like it that much, then post elsewhere. Besides, what you said was quite off-topic.

Anyway, I say that there should be a helmet law everywhere; lives would definitely be saved in greater quantities!
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
The helmet law in PA was amended in 2003 so that you don't have to where a helmet there.  I bet the people from Philadelphia had future sight and got the law changed.  God, I hope he is okay.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on June 12, 2006, 04:46:49 PM
Well, that was wise decision for the PA government to do: endanger everyone's lives just to let people be lazy.

But, really, c'mon! They have laws out there requiring you to wear a seat belt, but the helmet laws are more unpopular. The helmet law should be almost EQUALLY important as any seat belt law.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2006, 04:53:48 PM
Definatly.  Ben said he didn't need it because he was careful.  I have been in a car accident before, and from that experience I can tell you that it doesn't matter how careful you are, because it isn't always your fault.  Some 62 year old lady turned in front of him before he could slow down.  I'm sure he was being careful...

You can follow the story by going to http://kdka.com
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MasterKeyX on June 12, 2006, 04:59:48 PM
I heard about that on Fox news, i felt really bad for the guy. I really do hope,however, some good comes out of this and it teaches others to wear helmets when riding vehicles.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 12, 2006, 05:00:53 PM
Good will come from it.  It always does.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Hi no Seijin on June 13, 2006, 03:23:51 AM
I hope this dude is okay (sorry for calling him a dude  :-\ ).  And shadowlink13 is right; it doesn't matter how careful you are.  There is always some idiot out there or some other careless person.  I'm careful when crossing the street, but I've been nearly run over twice.  Oh, I'm just now hearing this over the radio.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 13, 2006, 06:13:42 AM
Ben Roethlisberger was born in a city near where I live.  He was born in Findly, Ohio, and I live in Toledo, Ohio.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: alical on June 13, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
My friend knew a man whos watch got caught on the wheel of his motor bike. He fell off and was dragged along the road on his face. His face was so horifiacly scared noone could recognise him   :(

Anyway I think (even though it is law) people should always wear seatbelts. This man was driving a car with his wife, 2 children, his friend, his friends wife, and his friends children. He was the only one to wear a seatbelt. He and his friends children survived and his friends wife is in critical condition, everyone else died. The man is alone and his friends children may soon be orphans. All cos they werent wearing seatbelts. My friend lost her parents in a car crash so she always makes everyone put their seatbelt on.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Hi no Seijin on June 13, 2006, 12:08:18 PM
Some people don't want to wear a seal belt because it's uncomfortable.  Well, I'm sure getting lacerated by the windshield is worse.  Others say they don't want to wear a seatbelt because they don't want to ruin their nice dress clothes.  Well, it's going to get ruined when paramedics (or even a coroner) have to cut you out of it to save your life (or in the case of the coroner, perform an autopsy).  People need to get their priorities straight.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 13, 2006, 02:13:18 PM
My theory on people.




MOST OF THEM ARE IDIOTS IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 13, 2006, 08:22:22 PM
Yeah.  That about sums it up.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Mysterious F. on June 16, 2006, 08:06:26 AM
Wearing a helmet actually has little to do with your saftey. If someone shoots you in the head and you're wearing a helmet, the bullet will go strait through the helmet. Also, even with the helmet on he would be seriously injured and need surgery and get head injuries, and the road he crashed in had something to do with it (I know because I live 2 hours from Pittsburgh). Our chances for the superbowl are dead. Oh, and shadowlink13, WATCH THE LANGUAGE!!!! Also MagmarFire, more people die with helmets in motorcycle axcidents than without them. See, what difference does it make? It depends on the axident, not whether or not you're wearing a helmet. He's still alive, thank goodness.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on June 16, 2006, 09:17:20 AM
I think the reason why there are more people that have died by wearing helmets than without is because more people wear helmets than those that don't. I also believe that most of the states in the U.S. have helmet laws, so compare the numbers with those who have died while wearing a helmet with those who haven't; the numbers are very close to the same. See the significance? ;)
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Mysterious F. on June 16, 2006, 09:31:53 AM
Actually, most states have laws saying you don't need a helmet.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 16, 2006, 10:52:21 AM
Which is a bad rule, because if it wasn't for helmets, I would probebly be very stupid right know.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2006, 10:57:02 AM
Thank god for helmets for bicycle riders. I'm the one to talk though, I ride a bike at least twice a day without a helmet on. I live in the D.C. area, and I ride around policemen many times without a helmet on and they don't say anything, so I doubt there's any law around here saying you have to wear a helmet. But that's just on a bicycle, not a motorcycle.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Mysterious F. on June 16, 2006, 11:09:27 AM
See, it doesn't make a difference. You're still going to need to go to the hospital after any motorcycle accident.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2006, 11:12:35 AM
Oh, well when you're on a motorcycle you should defineatly wear a helmet. It can make a huge difference on what impact it has on your head. Sure, either way you'll have to go to the hospital, but it can make a difference on the extent of your injuries.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Mysterious F. on June 16, 2006, 11:16:41 AM
You'll still be hurt, though, so no difference. Not even Ben's Accident could change the states' minds.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: alical on June 16, 2006, 01:33:45 PM
Yeah but I would rather wear a helmet and get a fractured skull than be in the same accident without a helmet and get brain damage.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2006, 01:38:08 PM
Exactly. There is a huge difference, helmets decrease risks of getting extreme injuries to your skull by a lot. Anyone who says otherwise really shouldn't think about getting a motorcycle anytime soon.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 16, 2006, 01:52:37 PM
my point exactly.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on June 16, 2006, 06:05:56 PM
Or any two-wheeled vehicle at all, for that matter.

Besides, why do you think more people die in car accidents than plane crashes? It because there are more cars on the road than there are planes in the sky. I still think it's pretty much the same for helmet-wearers and those who don't wear protective headgear.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 16, 2006, 06:49:40 PM
QuoteOur chances for the superbowl are dead.
Try not to be so negative.  If all goes well, Ben will be back for the season opener.  If not, the Steelers can still be competative without him.  Do you think Charlie Batch and Omar Jacobs will be twittling their thumbs if it looks like they might have to start the season?  Ben has already been recovering faster than expected.  Five days to get out of the hospital?  Try 40 hours.  In two weeks he will be able to work out and stuff.  The injury that will take the longest to heal is the jaw, which is, what, 8 weeks max?  

You know what this is?  This is a Jerome Bettis fumble at the Indy goal line.  Ben had his head all high in the air, thought he was invincible because he got his team to a Super Bowl, and BOOM.  Wake up call.  I truly believe he has come out of this a changed man.  It will help him grow into a great leader, which a quarterback is supposed to be.  And he will be motivated to work harder to overcome any doubts.  This needed to happen, and it happened at just the right time.

QuoteOh, and shadowlink13, WATCH THE LANGUAGE!!!!
Could you please stop hounding me everytime I say one little no-no word?  Yes, I know "swearing" is against the rules.  I simply said I was pissed because I just learned that my favorite team's quarterback smashed up himself and his motorcycle.  I was reacting with strong emotion.  Strong words reflect strong emotion.  Did I offend anyone by saying I was pissed?  Did I make anyone reel back in shock at what I said?  Was my expression a direct insult to an person(s) on this board?  No, no, and no.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 16, 2006, 07:08:06 PM
I heard Ben will be ready by the start of the season...

Back on topic... The rule neads to be that every state or country should make a rule that everyone should have to wear a helmet.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 16, 2006, 07:16:24 PM
Yes, he should be.  Which is good.  The season is not doomed after all.

No one ever got off topic.  The topic was aboaut Ben and his accident.  I was talking about how it would affect thim and such.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Mysterious F. on June 17, 2006, 08:21:33 PM
Still ,though, think about how horrible it was to the people who witnessed the axident.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 17, 2006, 08:24:08 PM
But the topic is safty first not Ben Rothlesburger, or hover its spelled, im more of an Eagles fan, so I don't know much of the stealers.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 18, 2006, 08:43:12 AM
Safety first it the title of the topic.  The topic is meant (by me, the author of the thread) to be about Ben Roethlisberger in his accident, in which he did not take safety precautions.

QuoteIn case you haven't heard already, Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was seriously injured in a motorcycle accident and is undergoing surgery.  He was not wearing a helmet.  

I am praying for him, but I am also pissed, bigtime.  Just because wearing a helmet is not a law doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.  When he gets better, he should not be allowed to ride again (though I seriously doubt he will, after that).  He has the money, so why didn't he buy a sportscar instead of a motorcycle?  And everyone knows regular vehicles are less likely to get you into an accident.

So you see, the topic is more about Ben Roethlisberger.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 10:19:09 AM
Ok, Sorry... Yeah Ben is Defently going to play.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 18, 2006, 10:29:27 AM
Was he in an accident with another person?  Or did he just lose control?
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 10:31:28 AM
I think he just lost controll.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 18, 2006, 10:36:43 AM
Oh, I was about to say, think how the other person must feel.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 10:40:19 AM
Ben's Probebly down in the dumps right know.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 18, 2006, 12:50:50 PM
Well, if he can still play then everything's good.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 02:02:45 PM
Notice, I said right now, because, he probebly hurts.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 18, 2006, 06:55:38 PM
A 62 year old woman turned left in front of him at an intersection.  He smacked into the side of her car.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 06:56:47 PM
OOOO, I hope his inserance rate wasn't to high.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 18, 2006, 07:00:01 PM
He is a millionaire.  I don't think it will matter.  Just some extra pocket change.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 07:01:32 PM
That is tru. do you think they'll go to the superbowl again?
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 18, 2006, 07:04:35 PM
It is very possible.  Yes.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 07:06:19 PM
What are the chances of the Lions going to the superbowl, I say with Brian Calhoon(Not sure if last name is spelled right) Is a running back for us, and could be the next Barry Sanders.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 18, 2006, 07:35:55 PM
Lions are my favorite NFC team (second fav. overall) so I would love to see them make the playoffs.  A Superbowl for them would be great.  I haven't followed the Lions very well.  What round did that RB get selected in?  And I thought the Lions had a good RB already, and just needed to upgrade their QB position to improve, which they did (John "These guys ain't betta'n us!" Kitna)
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 18, 2006, 07:44:21 PM
I think Brian Calhoon got drafted in the Lions 3 pick, but the draft round, I don't remember, but i've seen him play in live college football against michigan vs wisconsin(Brian Calhoon) and he was pritty good. Anyway Im not much of a Stealer Fan.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Gamefreak on June 19, 2006, 09:19:52 AM
I used to like the Dolphins when Dan Marino was QB.  But since he left the team has gone downhill.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on June 19, 2006, 10:13:43 AM
I like Dan Marino.  He was a great quarterback.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: JDog on June 20, 2006, 08:24:43 AM
I have a rookie card of Dan Marino.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on July 02, 2006, 08:55:13 AM
Update:  Ben is expected to start throwing this week. ;D
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on July 02, 2006, 08:57:23 AM
That's fortunate. ;D

It's also quite amazing that he recovered fairly quickly, assuming he was heavily damaged.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on July 02, 2006, 09:02:05 AM
He was hurt pretty bad but not as much as he could have.  I have yet to see a picture of him post accident but it sounds like he doesn't look that bad.  I think he feels bad for putting the season in jeopardy though.

One thing that makes me mad is how some "fans" reacted to the accident.  They started writing the 62 year old lady who hit him threats.  That is dispicable.  It was just an old lady who hit some random guy who happened to be a very good quarterback.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: MagmarFire on July 02, 2006, 09:09:28 AM
Are you serious!?

You're right; that IS despicable! After all, it was just an accident! A complete, unplanned accident, and yet, people just have to act stupid and threaten her! I mean, do they not know it was an accident or something?
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on July 02, 2006, 09:20:41 AM
I don't even know what goes on in their heads.  They must have had abusive childhoods or something.  Either that or they are just plain crazy.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: saria.. on July 04, 2006, 09:47:02 AM
she probably coulnt see for sh** ;)
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on July 13, 2006, 02:12:12 PM
To avoid triple post, my last two posts:

QuoteMotorcycles seem to be invisible to a lot of people.  That is why there is such a high rate of accidents.
QuoteUpdate:  Hey, he's back, and he looks pretty good.

http://broadband.espn.go.com/ivp/splash

He is going to be on an interview on ESPN at 6:00 EST (Sports Center)  I am looking forward to it.  You can hardly tell that anything happened to him.
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: saria.. on July 13, 2006, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 13, 2006, 12:08:18 PM
Some people don't want to wear a seal belt because it's uncomfortable.  Well, I'm sure getting lacerated by the windshield is worse.  Others say they don't want to wear a seatbelt because they don't want to ruin their nice dress clothes.  Well, it's going to get ruined when paramedics (or even a coroner) have to cut you out of it to save your life (or in the case of the coroner, perform an autopsy).  People need to get their priorities straight.
when i was 7 years old a seatbelt saved my life when my dad was in a car accident.
the point is seatbelts save lives
Title: Re:Safety First
Post by: Darth Wyndisis on July 13, 2006, 07:53:44 PM
SR, please don't double post.