I noticed recently that in all the Zelda games you never see a female Goron. Even though in MM you see a child (Who was obviously born from somewhere) so where are the female Goron's? My best theory is that male and female Goron's have no physical difference (Must make it confusing...).
U never Know mbey there are women i mean u never saw there......genatels..... ;D
I bet there arent any appearancial difference between them.
They live under a rock. :P
I have two ideas. The first one is that they just spawn out of nowhere and any old Goron can claim the baby as his child, explaining how the Goron Elder in MM can have a baby. The second one is that the women really do live under a rock. We don't see them, so we don't really know what they look like. But I think they would look like the other Gorons, but they would be thinner, yet still muscular.
Those work too...
So the female gorons all hide from Link eh... I wonder why... :-\
They don't want to be tempted. He's a stud, you know. :P
(And everyone's looking at Hi no Seijin like this---> ::) )
Gorons are the same sex, but reproduce differently than humans.
So they reproduce A-sexually? Or do you reckon they act like single celled organisms (Amobeas) and just split every now and then to reproduce?
Gorons eat a special rock, and a few weeks later we puke it out and it's now a Goron baby.
Lol. Original idea there... So what are these special rocks called? "Puke it out and, look a new baby" rocks?
Henectruial rocks. That's their name, and it is very hard to pronounce.
Is there a Goron that named them, or do you think they were just always called that?
A Goron named the that.
Sounds neat! i lve the idea.
Maybe Gorons are asexual, and reproduce through spores.
Quote from: Whocares on July 14, 2006, 11:57:10 PM
Gorons eat a special rock, and a few weeks later we puke it out and it's now a Goron baby.
That is so unique. I want to see that. :)
Trust me, you don't want to. It's really disturbing. :P
hey, maybee you guys can make a documentary! lol
Lol! *puts on BBC presenter accent* "And now you we can see the wild and elusive goron blundering it's way towards a sheltered spot where it is about to perform the most important act in it's life, it is about to give birth..." *Goron vomits up child* "Oh....My....Sweet.....Godess....that is the sickest, wierdest thing I've ever seen!!! I can't take it anymore!!!!! AAAHHAHAGHHGHGAHGHAGHAARRRAGGAHAGH!!!!!" *Presenter runs wildly of edge of death mountain*
Wow, you guys are preeeeetty creative. I think we should just leave it at all Gorons are transexuals and gay, that's why they're always rollin over Link.
Um, sure. Not my thing, but it might be for a Goron.
How can you be gay if you are transexual? Surely that's just the way all your species are... Oh and I prefer the rock thing! :) Also, only three Gorons ever try to run Link over (The huge one when a child, the one on the side of the mountain as you climb up towards Gororn city when you are a child, and the baby of Daurini that you have to stop rolling as an adult).
They're not even trying to roll you over. They are just rolling around and you happen to get in there way.
Also, any theories as to why all the goron's look identical except for Daruini, their big brother (leader)?
Um, plastic surgery? :-\
The sages are always diff.
He's probably part of a special bloodline. Or perhaps, all Gorons look that way when they reach a certain age, and he's the oldest.
yeah! and thats why hes the leader!
Saria has green hair,Darunia has white hair(And is bigger),Ruto has no fin on her head,Impa is the only Sheikah and Nabooru has a pony tail+diff.clothes. :)
heck yes she does!
Heck yes she does what? :-X
nabooru wears a ponytail and diff. clothes.
She kinda looks like that girl(I forget her name ;))that shows up after you free all 4 carpenters. :)
Well they are the same race but I think they look totally diff.
You know,the 1 in black. :)
wait what game?
OoT.The1 who's in charge while she's gone to the spirit temple.
Yeah shes not in black.
I thought she was,oh well.I'lll check later. :)
Shes in what ever color your in.
Oh,cool!never noticed!Thanx. :D
mmhmm anytime, does it ever say her name?
Yes I think it does.I'll check because I have a file where I haven't done that part yet. :D
Cool! but PM it to me cuz this is spam.
K.(Before a mod notices.) :)
So, we can get back to the female Gorons now, right? Have we discussed every possibility? If so, should we lock this topic?
um...yeah
1,2,3!.....Locked?
Quote from: Tee on July 19, 2006, 07:39:16 PM
Wow, you guys are preeeeetty creative. I think we should just leave it at all Gorons are transexuals and gay, that's why they're always rollin over Link.
Tee, you don't understand; I looked it up in the Wikimedia thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorons#Gender
Thats a good look on it.
Trust me, man; I study Zelda more than I eat ;)
Wow. I eat more than I study Zelda. Apparently, I'm doing something wrong. ;D
No, trust me; you at least have a life; I literally fast. No, I'm kidding, but I have been only looking through my Zelda games for more details about the story for the whole of the summer...
If the spamming doesn't stop soon I'm going to lock this topic... Oh and I still like the rock idea... m :)
we already decided to.
Quote from: Davros on August 01, 2006, 11:47:29 AM
If the spamming doesn't stop soon I'm going to lock this topic... Oh and I still like the rock idea... m :)
The rock idea's...weird.
I like the rock idea, and wish I could believe it, but....
In ALTTP, we meet descendants, bloodline, of the seven sages. Now, we could argue that the story mentioned in ALTTP is not OOT, but I think it's pretty obvious it is. Most differences are based on bad translations. SO, let's just say OOT is what ALTTP was talking about.
Like it isn't already hard enough to figure out how Zora bloodlines can mix with Hylian/Human. Because unlike the Rito (okay, that I just assume, but otherwise it's just as hard to explain), they don't lay eggs. And Kokiri don't seem to do the reproduction thing, but at least we know they can change their bodies, so maybe they once changed into Hylian/Human adults.
But at least those two groups have shown they use the male+female way of reproducing, or possibly could. But what if Gorons truly are genderless? I know they refer to eachother as male beings (son, he, him, brother etc.), but what's the point of being male or female if the other gender of your kind does not exist? * And even if it could somehow qualify as male, I doubt they would have the...um.. equipment to mix their race with that of Hylians/Humans. And I also highly doubt they would evolve in such a way.
* I'm pretty sure someone's gonna mention the Gerudo. First of all, they do get a male of their race once in a very long time period (I assume per tribe, but just how does that work?). Well, if they really can get 400 years old, that would be more than enough. Besides, it's a bit different for them, since they probably are very closely related to the other humanlikes. And if I'm correct, the quote was talking about a male Gerudo, not just males. At least two people in the game make references to possibly have a Gerudo as mother, one of them being a male.
Yeah, I should eat more. ;D
Quote from: Nogare on July 30, 2006, 08:40:10 AM
Trust me, man; I study Zelda more than I eat ;)
Wow me too :)
Very interesting, but you seem to be discussing view on how the Gorons interbreed (Or don't as it seems), any ideas on how they reproduce, within their own species? (Unless you say they can't, but these would surely mean that they would simply die out, an idea disproved by the Goron's in WW.
Davros is on. :o
Shock aside, I still like the two ideas put forth by me and Whocare's idea about the special rock.
Quote from: Davros on September 29, 2006, 02:37:20 PM
Very interesting, but you seem to be discussing view on how the Gorons interbreed (Or don't as it seems), any ideas on how they reproduce, within their own species? (Unless you say they can't, but these would surely mean that they would simply die out, an idea disproved by the Goron's in WW.
Well, that's true, but I used it to question the Goron-rock theory. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, and after having seen what Biggoron did to my shield in TMC, I'm prepared to believe anything involving their spit and stomach acid. ;D But, if they are apparently capable of getting children with other races, why would they have two methods of reproducing (one for their own kind, one for the other races)? And just how, if that's the case, would that work? I never said or would even consider thinking they can't reproduce within their own species, I just wonder how they reproduce. :-\ ;D I'm just looking at all the evidence, the two big ones being: Gorons are capable of getting children with not-gorons & there are no "female" gorons and there's no reason to assume they exist.
True, "female" goron's do not seem to exist, but if the females themselves don't exist, it is possible that gorons simply reproduce a-sexually (Hence the Goron's in WW not being to worried about wondering around with whole seas seperating them from other Gorons). Oh and Hi no Seijin, I've been revoering from an accident, so I couldn't come on to the net. But I'm back now!
Look, I think that's very well possible. I mean, there's no reason why they wouldn't reproduce a-sexually, since there are clearly no signs of different genders in the games. But in that case, how can some of them have Hylian descendants? I said I believe a lot, but it somehow doesn't seem they could've gotten them asexually or by chewing on a rock. So, why would or do they have two reproduction systems? And in particular, what is the use of the reproduction system they in general can't or don't use?
Quote* I'm pretty sure someone's gonna mention the Gerudo. First of all, they do get a male of their race once in a very long time period (I assume per tribe, but just how does that work?). Well, if they really can get 400 years old, that would be more than enough. Besides, it's a bit different for them, since they probably are very closely related to the other humanlikes. And if I'm correct, the quote was talking about a male Gerudo, not just males. At least two people in the game make references to possibly have a Gerudo as mother, one of them being a male.
The Gerudos mate with Hylians. :-*
As for OoT being the Sealing War; if that's the case it's the war when Ganon ATTACKS Hyrule, not the small battle at the end. So, the Wise Men mentioned in ALttP are still not the same as the Sages in OoT.
I think it was the big battle Link missed. I just think that time brought the sages and knights together in one battle in the legends. A matter of ONE year possibly, so it's not that inaccurate. With Link helping the Sages, it's even more likely that it's just a minor mix up slipped in over time.
Oh, by the way, if a human eats the rock, bugs come out of it and use the person as a nest! That's how the original Aburame member was Aburamed! Anyways, the rock looks like filing cabinets.
I believe that gorons are reproduced in the middle of the earth....say by Din. They probably grow like any rock, and when they are of age, Din awakens them, like the Ents were awoken by the elves in Lord of the Rings.
also, the thing about mating with another species.
1. we see no half and half creatures.
2.if all gorons are male, then it would kill whoever said male mated with...
Thank you for posting here! (Slips money into his pocket)
More, I've once seen an ant absorb some moisture on the rock, and it turned into a much taller version of Tom Cruise, and for what reason is a mystery.
Also, as for what happened to the affermentioned BBC documentary guy, his hair strangely formed the shape of a parachute and he floated down safely. He is believed to have landed in Pompeii and turn into a stone person becasue of the eruption. Also, I wanna mention that archiologists found a stone guy in Pompeii's ruins going to the bathroom when the Mount Vesuvias exdploded. :o :o :o :o :o
This just in, Kabuto appears to have gone off the deep end. thanks for the cash though.
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X (starts to do the crazy dance).
You haven't realized that by now? :)(on the inside goes like this: >:( )
Still, the rock thing is funny.
I don't know as much as I should about Hyrulian lore and races, but I would guess that Gorons reproduce as Gimli explained about dwarves in Lord of the Rings, that there are no women Goron, and that new ones just pop out of the ground.
But the rock thing is funny, right?
Also, the thing about the guy going to the bathroom when Pompeii was destroyed is true. :-[
hmm...and in Eragon, dwarves are called knurlan in the ancient language, which means of stone...so I guess you could compare gorons to dwarves in a way.
Well you see, gorons slowly gain mass as they eat more stones than are required to keep them alive, if they so choose they can produce an offspring by a natural spawning action that takes time to develop the offspring. Giant gorons eat a butt-load and never produce children, the elder goron may have only produced the one child or most of them, this shows that gorons retain their ability to spawn even when they become elderly.
I think the most logical conclusion is that they look the same to us but they can still tell eachother apart. You know, kinda like insects.
Logical as that is, that's no fun for discussion.
It could be possible that no female Gorons are simply included in the games. Maybe the Gorons have a culture where females are kept indoors and not considered equal to the males.
I like the theories that the Goron women are indistinguishable from the males to anyone that is not a Goron, and also the asexual reproduction theory. It brings to mind the Galka race from Final Fantasy XI, who towards the end of their life span go on a "journey of rebirth", in which they die and are somehow reborn as a young Galka which retains no memory of its past life, other than where it lived. Now while it is never clearly explain how this would work, I would assume as they near the end of their lives a foetus develops inside of them, indicating their time to go, and when they die the now developed baby crawls out (somehow o.o). Possibly the same could happen with Gorons?
My only gripe with the asexual reproduction theory is that most organisms in our world that reproduce in this way are very simple, like bacteria, amoeba, etc. However, this is the Zelda universe, so who knows what might happen! XD And I'd love to see Nintendo implement the "special rock" theory in a future game.
Quote from: Potato_King on January 17, 2007, 10:20:14 AM
My only gripe with the asexual reproduction theory is that most organisms in our world that reproduce in this way are very simple, like bacteria, amoeba, etc. However, this is the Zelda universe, so who knows what might happen! XD And I'd love to see Nintendo implement the "special rock" theory in a future game.
No. Some plants can reproduce asexually. And there are animals such as sponges, jellyfish, and starfish as well. They might not be complex to you and me, but they're certainly more complex than a simple single-celled organism.
Anyway, back on topic. I like the idea of the Goron females not being equal to males and never being outside of the home. Kind of like Islam. No culture is perfect, they should all have some kind of moral flaw somewhere.
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on January 17, 2007, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: Potato_King on January 17, 2007, 10:20:14 AM
My only gripe with the asexual reproduction theory is that most organisms in our world that reproduce in this way are very simple, like bacteria, amoeba, etc. However, this is the Zelda universe, so who knows what might happen! XD And I'd love to see Nintendo implement the "special rock" theory in a future game.
No. Some plants can reproduce asexually. And there are animals such as sponges, jellyfish, and starfish as well. They might not be complex to you and me, but they're certainly more complex than a simple single-celled organism.
Anyway, back on topic. I like the idea of the Goron females not being equal to males and never being outside of the home. Kind of like Islam. No culture is perfect, they should all have some kind of moral flaw somewhere.
Heh, well technically I did say most, but I couldn't think of anything else at the time. You're right about the plants and starfis and things. Also, apart from Princess Ruto and the Queen in TP, I don't believe there are any clearly indicated Zora females. So maybe their culture is similar in that aspect. Although, we only really see one "town" each of Gorons and Zoras in the games, and I highly doubt they'd managed to survive for such a long time without inbreeding. So maybe there just aren't any females in the places you visit?
Quote from: Potato_King on January 18, 2007, 10:09:40 AM
Heh, well technically I did say most, but I couldn't think of anything else at the time. You're right about the plants and starfis and things. Also, apart from Princess Ruto and the Queen in TP, I don't believe there are any clearly indicated Zora females. So maybe their culture is similar in that aspect. Although, we only really see one "town" each of Gorons and Zoras in the games, and I highly doubt they'd managed to survive for such a long time without inbreeding. So maybe there just aren't any females in the places you visit?
But surely even just one town would have at least one female?
I guess we can just chalk it up to the game designers being lazy though. :)
I'm getting tired of this:
There are more female Zora than those two. For one, we have Lulu, secondly there's Laruto and thirdly, Iza's assistant is clearly stated to be female.
Nintendo is just stupid and lazy for not bothering about making more than one model for every non-humanoid, but making like 40+ for the Hylians/Humans. In OOT, MM, OOA and TP you have to imagine they all look different and that probably 50% is female.
And just because we see only one population doesn't mean there aren't more. Remember ALTTP? It only featured ONE town (and some random shops). However, it is safe to assume there are more towns, especially after the release of FSA. We could also argue there was only a very small population in TLOZ, but TAOL proved there were more than one. Just because the game doesn't show more, doesn't mean there aren't any other populations!
Quote from: LadyNintendo on January 18, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
I'm getting tired of this:
There are more female Zora than those two. For one, we have Lulu, secondly there's Laruto and thirdly, Iza's assistant is clearly stated to be female.
Nintendo is just stupid and lazy for not bothering about making more than one model for every non-humanoid, but making like 40+ for the Hylians/Humans. In OOT, MM, OOA and TP you have to imagine they all look different and that probably 50% is female.
And just because we see only one population doesn't mean there aren't more. Remember ALTTP? It only featured ONE town (and some random shops). However, it is safe to assume there are more towns, especially after the release of FSA. We could also argue there was only a very small population in TLOZ, but TAOL proved there were more than one. Just because the game doesn't show more, doesn't mean there aren't any other populations!
I apologise for missing Lulu and Laruto, only Ruto and the Queen came to my head when typing that point. And it sounds like you're just agreeing with my idea that there are obviously more towns and so on containing other Zoras, so I'm not really sure who you're aiming that post at. :S
And I fully agree, Nintendo should try to make at least a female character model for the other races.
Oh, I guess I misinterpreted your post. Sorry!
I guess a bit more individuality for all non-Human/Hylian races would be nice. I mean, MM showed how different sea Zoras can look and TP showed how different Gorons can look. Even subtle differences like the ones from the Rito are okay (they seriously needed more females as well apart from Medli and two references.) As long as they look different.
Another nice thing would be adding children that are not important for the plot. It made the Gorons in TP far more interesting.
I actually think an asexual theory for one race sounds nice. It is interesting to have things like that. Also, LadyNintendo, you forgot the small Goron settlement in OOS. TWW has three, but these, in my theory, are just from trading families and decided to stay and trade when the other Gorons left.
Quote from: Kabuto Yakushi on January 18, 2007, 06:03:07 PM
I actually think an asexual theory for one race sounds nice. It is interesting to have things like that. Also, LadyNintendo, you forgot the small Goron settlement in OOS. TWW has three, but these, in my theory, are just from trading families and decided to stay and trade when the other Gorons left.
It would make it more interesting, and it could be a reason why those 3 Gorons stayed, as they knew they could reproduce without the need of a second party. It'd be nice if Nintendo either included some female Gorons in a future game or said they were asexual or something.
Also, I would really like to see more coverage on the Deku race. I found them quite interesting in Majora's Mask, but they are only seen as enemies in Ocarina of Time and non-existant in Twilight Princess.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on January 18, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
I'm getting tired of this:
There are more female Zora than those two. For one, we have Lulu, secondly there's Laruto and thirdly, Iza's assistant is clearly stated to be female.
Nintendo is just stupid and lazy for not bothering about making more than one model for every non-humanoid, but making like 40+ for the Hylians/Humans. In OOT, MM, OOA and TP you have to imagine they all look different and that probably 50% is female.
And just because we see only one population doesn't mean there aren't more. Remember ALTTP? It only featured ONE town (and some random shops). However, it is safe to assume there are more towns, especially after the release of FSA. We could also argue there was only a very small population in TLOZ, but TAOL proved there were more than one. Just because the game doesn't show more, doesn't mean there aren't any other populations!
All the zora in TP that aren't soldiers except the prince are female.
Quote from: Harashi on January 19, 2007, 05:08:40 PM
All the zora in TP that aren't soldiers except the prince are female.
Says who?
KY > Friendly Deku Scrubs also appeared in FSA, though weren't as interesting as they were in MM. Still, with names like Dekki, Deppi etc. you just got to love them. :)
Potato King, you are very correct, but, because of younger players, they might not be able to, in the games, directly say they are asexual because of younger players. They could announce it in an interview or something.
true...think of the conversations kids would have with their parents after learning about asexual breeding...then they would branch out into everything...it would end up as the 'how do we make babies?' question...
It would be a disaster.
I think it would be fun...I'll tell my little sister about asexual reproductiona dn tape her reaction...
Ooo Ooo! If you do, show me! I wanna see what she does.
hehe....I would be so grounded. 8)
Use hypnosis to make her forget!
Okay, back to reality (or the future :-* ), it would be nice to have asexual species in the games.
we may already...for all we know they all reproduce asexually...
Well, it is impossible for Humans, Hylians, Zoras, Sheikah, Dekus, Zuna, Rito, and Kokiri, because both sexes are seen at least once. Gerudo are said to go look for boyfriends out of Hylians. Minish, Tokay, Subrosians, and Koroks are possible.
Why is it impossible for them to reproduce asexually? I mean, why not? Sure, there's a difference between males and females, but why does that have to mean everything? Can't we just throw logic completely out the window and say that every race, even the gods and/or goddesses, reproduce asexually? Will I ever stop speaking in questions? :P
Well, the humans obviously can't reproduce asexually, as we saw a pregnant woman, and later her with her newborn, in Twilight Princess. And I think we assume that the more humanoid races reproduce like humans- they have familial relationships that could be impossible with asexual reproduction (for instance, Kafei has two parents in Majora's Mask, Komali's grandmother is mentioned in Wind Waker, the list goes on and on). However, the Kokiri could be one of those races with a different means of reproduction... leading to the Koroks.
How do the Kokiri reproduce? Does the Deku Tree kill them and new ones fall from its branches? Or is it something totally crazy and unbelievable.
I just assume they reproduce normally. That's the only theory I've heard so far that allows them to have siblings, and there's at least two, possibly three, known pairs of siblings.
And before anyone jumps at me and tells me they're just children, they're not. They only look like children. :-*
Quote from: Eralk Fang on January 26, 2007, 04:07:22 AM
Well, the humans obviously can't reproduce asexually, as we saw a pregnant woman, and later her with her newborn, in Twilight Princess. And I think we assume that the more humanoid races reproduce like humans- they have familial relationships that could be impossible with asexual reproduction (for instance, Kafei has two parents in Majora's Mask, Komali's grandmother is mentioned in Wind Waker, the list goes on and on). However, the Kokiri could be one of those races with a different means of reproduction... leading to the Koroks.
The pregnant woman and her child means nothing!
Ahem, I mean, what I said was in jest, really. But still, don't some plants reproduce asexually and sexually? It would be weird, but I don't see why humans wouldn't be able to do that if some slight modifications were made.
I suppose...that would mean the Zoras reproduced sexually if the prince had a mother, would it not? Since they had a familial relationship....Then again, no father was mentioned...
There are also creatures in our world that switch between sexual reproduction and asexual reproduction each generation. Would be VERY interesting to see that in a TLOZ game. ;D
That would stink to be the Link in a asexual generation...poor guy... ;D
That reminds me, some frog species in West Africa have the ability to change sex. They reproduce sexually, but these can change their own sex. That is very, very, very, very, (1,000,000 very's later) very, very, very unusual.
we can change our sexes too...but I bet the frogs dont need thousands of dollars and heavy machinery to do it...
Okay, they can do it boilogically. We do it technolically.
yes, that is a definite oddity.
Plus they could do it thousands of years before we could.
And we still can't do it.
Despite the machinery and stuff, no man that "becomes" a woman can get pregnant, and no woman that "becomes" a man can sire a child.
Oh yeah.
Maybe one day we will harness the frog's genes...you know, that could prove extremely useful to the Gerudo.
When I think of frogs able to change sex, I think of velociraptors lunging out of the forest, trying to take a bit out of me. Mind you, velociraptors that shouldn't exist because the parents were supposed to be unable to breed.
Thank you, Michael Crichton for writing Jurassic Park. :)
I have an idea... if they're'nt ( :D) any female Gorons... they find a big rock, find a heart container, and carve a baby goron outta it and put the heart cantainer in it. ;D
interesting...that's one of the more original theories...
I hereby make that the official theory. :P
You know there could always be different species of Gorons...we used to have different species of humans, but homo sapiens was apparantly the most adaptable so it survived to this day.
Maybe one species reproduces heterosexually, one asexually, and one by eating a special rock! XD
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 30, 2007, 08:44:16 AM
I hereby make that the official theory. :P
Yey! If you're talking about my theory... ::) :D
Yes, MCRFreak, I'm talking about your theory. It's just crazy enough to work. :D
Oh... yey!! ;D I'm speachless for some odd reason... ::)
maybe because this is your moment of greatness, and you have just made a theory which could revolutionize the way the forums think. Be proud MCRF, you deserve it.
Yeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeyey!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Ok, yeyeyey! Ok that's all. :D
Just a tidbit I thought would be useful over here.
The Gorons' favorite honorific, brother, is not gender-specific. In Twilight Princess, they address Ilia as such (the quote is something like "Our brother here has lost her memory!", I believe- if anyone has the specific one on hand, please correct me). Since Ilia is quite obviously a female human, perhaps the Gorons have a dim concept of gender?
Maybe they just can't tell female humans from male humans.
Edit: Woah, wait. They quite obviously say "her" there. Maybe "brother" is non-gender specific?
Edit2: Man, I'm a friggin' moron. You already said that in your post. I don't see what you're confused about then.
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on January 26, 2007, 09:10:56 AM
I suppose...that would mean the Zoras reproduced sexually if the prince had a mother, would it not? Since they had a familial relationship....Then again, no father was mentioned...
I assume you are talking about the prince from TP. But was it not the princes father/the queens husband that made Links shiny new tunic? (that lets him breathe under water) Correct me if i'm wrong.
Yes. The King was Ralis's father.
But now onto the next theory...where do Heart Containers come from?!
When Gorons die (or just get to old and are knocked off anyway) do their Heart Containers get put into new Gorons? If so, where did the first Heart Contrainers come from...
Discuss!
How 'bout Gorons reproduce through good ol' sexual reproduction!
Oh, and by the way, I think Heart Containers/Pieces are just game mechanics.
Shun the non-believer! =P
A heart container came out of the crying Yeto and Yeta after you beet the 5th dungeon. During the end credits another one rose from the mansion. (I don't want to know......) Mabye that's where they come from...
Quote from: Potato_King on February 08, 2007, 01:32:49 PM
Shun the non-believer! =P
Shuuuunn!!!
SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn-ah!
I love that video. anyways, I think Heart Containers are created by many methods, such as extreme love and heroic deeds like killing bosses.
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on February 08, 2007, 12:34:21 PM
How 'bout Gorons reproduce through good ol' sexual reproduction!
That's not as fun as discussing methods of asexual reproduction.
QuoteOh, and by the way, I think Heart Containers/Pieces are just game mechanics.
Let's try not bringing in game mechanics unless we're writing humor pieces. How'd you like if some dude randomly came up to you and said, "I drew you!"
I would feel like I had lost an entire dimension...
After all, the in-game characters have their own concepts about Heart Containers and Heart Pieces. A woman in The Minish Cap refers to a Heart Piece as a jewel or ruby. Gorons are usually associated with rubies...
Quote from: Potato_King on February 08, 2007, 04:32:55 AM
But now onto the next theory...where do Heart Containers come from?!
When Gorons die (or just get to old and are knocked off anyway) do their Heart Containers get put into new Gorons? If so, where did the first Heart Contrainers come from...
Discuss!
That's right! My theory, is that they take a big heart and a heart container and carve out the baby Goron an' put the Heart Container inside, then when they die they take it out and out it in a new Goron if they can't find one! ;D
but what do they do when the population grows?
Presumably the population would never grow, it would remain constant. They would only carve out a new Goron when an old one dies.
I still think the theory's stupid, though. Sorry, MCRFreak.
... 8) k... 8) ::)
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on February 09, 2007, 04:09:52 PM
I still think the theory's stupid, though.
I think the stupidity of the theory makes it great.
Sooo... Your both saying it's stupid? ...K... 8)
Yeah, but that's why I like it, so take it as a compliment. :D
Ok! :D Some people are so nice... :)
Like Chuck Norris, he kicks butt yet has a heart of gold...
This doesn't have anything to do with Gorns now does it?
Well, gold is found in rocks sometimes. And Goron's are goldenish in TP. (Or not, I have issues and can't tell colours.)
Hmm, rather interesting theme. Gorons are somewhat like the Dwarves from LoTR right? They play the same physical role as a race in the story. So I'll go with the "there's no diffrence" theory. Also, all information will be revealed at some point ;)
Also also, you can actually see a butt-hole at a Goron when standing behind it while it has it's head in the ground.
Also also also, Dauriana? has a child which he names after the player. Also x4 there is no mention of the mom, which makes me a bit sceptical to my own choise of theory. But the butt-hole thingy makes it seem they (as a race) might have the possibility of mating and giving birth.
Birds crap, pee, and mates through the same hole, so why cant Corons?
That's all I had to share at this point...
Also x5 Good bye
Quote from: The Metalist on February 11, 2007, 04:28:44 AM
Hmm, rather interesting theme. Gorons are somewhat like the Dwarves from LoTR right? They play the same physical role as a race in the story.
Lol, yeah! Gimli's so funny!!!!
Hee...Gimli's the best..."that still only counts as one!"
XDDD I've gotta watch LotR again!
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on February 09, 2007, 04:09:52 PM
Presumably the population would never grow, it would remain constant. They would only carve out a new Goron when an old one dies.
I still think the theory's stupid, though. Sorry, MCRFreak.
lol, I don't think you should take the theory so seriously...life is always better when it's funny. I mean look at the Monty Python gang, nailed to crosses and still whistling a happy tune.
"Always look on the bright side of life..."
Monty Python funneh!
It's not that I take things too seriously. It's that I don't think the theory's funny at all.
Once again, sorry MCRFreak.
Monty Python...Cattle-pults...I need to install one in my room. Launch cows at my sister. fun...
Lol. FunNY. XD
Actually the Pythons were tied to the crosses with ropes, they never nailed their hands to the crosses... :)
Nice to see this post is still going...
Fruit Baskets Freak, remove your sig immediately, and no questions. It stretches the page.
I've been following this topic, but I never said anything... and now I have proof (assuming Hyrule runs on the same stuff as us) that the Gorons breed the way mammals do.
Belly buttons. Belly buttons are caused by what? Umbilical cords. Why are umbilical cords formed? To feed nutrients between momma and fetus while in the mother's womb. Womb = Uterus. Uterus' (... what is the plural for Uterus?) are a female body part present in mammals. Mammals reproduce sexually.
Therefore, there are female gorons. But they might be indistinguishable from males, or hiding away because of Goron tradition/culture, or maybe because Nintendo was too lazy to make female models.
This is just assuming that reproduction and things are the same over there with them good ol' Hyruleans.
Yeah, I thought about that too. It's kinda awkward, and likely not a mistake. The Zoras don't seem to have belly buttons at least, so that's an indication Nintendo knew what they were doing when creating the Goron look.
I think the plural is uteri.
Yeah, I found that out last night, but I was too tired to change it. xD
I'd hope they knew what they were doing with the Goron belly buttons, they spent forever on that game. >>
....but....they are naked, yet you see no...
Means nothing, really. They probably have the ability to hide it when not in use.
Males have belly buttons too, and I don't really think we have a uterus or umbilical cord, soooo....
Unless there's an explanation.
Everyone has an umbilical cord when they're born, Whocares.
Edit: LOL, I just noticed this:
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 30, 2007, 10:30:08 PM
Means nothing, really. They probably have the ability to hide it when not in use.
*snickers*
That doesn't mean we have one that could be used during pregnancy, because males, with the exception of the seahorse, can't be pregnant.
And I think he's refering to the belly button, actually.
Well obviously, because it's attached to the placenta inside the uterus. It's not in there all the time; only during pregnancy.
And I don't even see the point in all of this. Was there any particular place you were going with any of this?
Oh, and within the context of the previous posts, that's obviously not what he was referring to. And you don't "use" a bellybutton anyway.
Oops, I thought he was refering to the female side of the umbilical cord this entire time. ;)
*sigh* That conversation made me dumber with each post I read, I swear...
I was hoping this thread wouldn't lean towards a serious side.
I was thinking that there are female Gorons, it's just hard to tell. Kind of like plants, they supposedly have genders, but since I'm not a botanist, I can't tell the difference. But if we were to talk about the Zoras, Princess Ruto seems to be the only female, because all the other Zoras have those abs which makes most people assume they male.
Who knows, the Gorons could be like the Gerudos where, there's only one male born every hundred years. (Vice versa for the Gorons)
Actually, it is possible that Gorons could be only one sex and reproduce like normal mammals do in our world, except how they could would create some problems... :-[
Anyways, if so, then the Umbilical Cord thing is disproven because there would only be one sex for the baby to grow in.
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known As Whocares on April 28, 2007, 10:31:52 AM
Anyways, if so, then the Umbilical Cord thing is disproven because there would only be one sex for the baby to grow in.
Hermaphrodites, possibly? xD
???I would not like to think about these things while playing Zelda, thank you very much.
Quote from: Shikaboose on April 28, 2007, 01:58:28 PM
???I would not like to think about these things while playing Zelda, thank you very much.
I'd rather think Nintendo got lazy on the character models, personally, but for the sake of wondering, I just threw it out there. I apologize. uwu;
No, we need as many theories as possible, that's what keeps this going...
Maybe Ganondork killed all the females as punishment or something and is waiting for them to die out. Unfortunately(or fortunately actually) he didn't study them much and didn't realize they live a very. very. long. time.
Or mabye they use those rock things. (See many past posats from the beginning of this topic)
-____- Please no. Lets just go with Shika's.
No, let's not settle on anything, I enjoy hearing all the different ideas and the continuing discussion. This is my favorite theory by far...
My rock idea was funny, to right? Or is my rock idea the noe you're talking about?
I personally now believe that the Gorons keep the race survivng the same way that the Gerudu do (According to one of the gossip stones, not sure which one.), travel down into other towns and search for partners... Though they would have to be willing to go with a goron... And considering that Gorons can crush someone just with a hug...
Quote from: Fisk on April 28, 2007, 11:04:31 AM
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known As Whocares on April 28, 2007, 10:31:52 AM
Anyways, if so, then the Umbilical Cord thing is disproven because there would only be one sex for the baby to grow in.
Hermaphrodites, possibly? xD
This is what I was talking about.
???Say no more. I beg of you. Maybe a gargantuanly large unnatractive human....ugh, no, you got me started now, way to go Davros!