The Desert Colossus

I say Vaati because he kidnaps girls... I think I know what he does with them, the pervert! :P

I think Ganondorf, because instead of being a pervert and taking girls for reasons I don't want to know, he plans on conquering the world. He even killed people while he did so with Hyrule. :)

vaati wanted to become a god so he could take over Hyrule

Ganondorf, He doesnt kidnap them b/c he has a hot tribe of them at his disposal.

One, you forgot Veran.  Two, Majora's Mask.  He tried to bring down the moon on Termina.  It doesn't get any more evil than that.  Of course, Evilslayer would be questioning if the above people are even evil. *wink*

Majora's Mask, I think. While the others try to rule the world by using a bit of violence, MM just wants to destroy. Or so it seems at least. We know enough about Ganondorf and Vaati to make fair judgements, but we don't even what the mask is. So maybe it's not fair to pick him, even though he/she/it clearly is the most insane and twisted one.

I actually somewhat agree about Majora's evil. I once read an article that showed that he actually tried to manipulate Link in that mysterious world Link appears in when he's sucked into the moon.

If you read what those mask-wearing kids say very carefully and then spend some time thinking on it you may realize there is a deeper meaning.

Got a link to that article?

And that's also why I voted him to be the most evil. All the other bosses, you know what to expect. Checklist done? Okay, final battle then. However, unlike the others, Majora's Mask first starts messing with your mind....a lot, before allowing a clear final battle. And what kind of battle was that? Was he dancing, was he playing, was he making fun of you? What sort of body was that? Is it his?

Majora's Mask at least is the most dangerous one.

Quote from: Nabooru on August 28, 2006, 03:23:07 PM
Ganondorf, He doesnt kidnap them b/c he has a hot tribe of them at his disposal.

WAKE UP, YOU MEAN YOU! Gerudos! *spit*

Eh, what the heck? I'll go with Majora's Mask, too. After all, to prevent its misuse, it was sealed away, mainly for its terrible power of destroying the world. Ganondorf and Vaati were sealed in the Sacred Realm and the Four Sword, respectively, to prevent world domination.

In Majora's Mask's case, it would be world disintegration! :P *rimshot*

maybe mm tried to destroy the world but would you rather hsve a quick death or live ruled by a tyrant who forced you to do his bidding? cuz unless you are vlodemort, you know some things are worse than death. and whos veran?

Veran was the villian in in Oracle of Ages.

I don't think majora because he thought everything was a game, and was insane, and was just plain weird. But Ganondorf/ ganon killed tons of people and tried to wipe out the goron race.

Hmm, Majora never really came off to me as insane, or that he was playing a game.  I don't know; it's been a while since I went head on with Majora.

Oh, he was insane alright. But that does not mean he wasn't evil. The Joker from Batman is insane and I doubt you don't think he's evil.

There are things worse than death, but Ganon(dorf) hardly caused any of those. Majora's Mask did far more horrible things before he decided to destroy everything and everyone. Besides, it appears Ganondorf knows what love, care and loyalty mean ( 8) okay, that sound a bit scary/wrong, but you know what I mean). Majora's Mask however does not. At least still in OOT and TWW, I guess a person could save his life by offering loyalty to Ganondorf (how bad could it be?) or expect a quick death, only meant to make you die and "warn" others. Majora's Mask on the other hand would just kill anything in his path with the intention of making them suffer or do something else that's very not pleasant either. There's a lot more chance you can reason with someone who "just" wants to rule everything than with someone who wants to destroy everything, even if it would not be his own world.

Hmm, that was similar to what I wanted to say, but I was unable to put it into words.  A most excellent point, LadyNintendo.

Who's the Joker?  Who's Batman?  Nah, just kidding. :P

I'd probably say Ganon, because Vaati, if you really think about it, isn't that powerfull.

Well, more power doesn't necessarily make you evil.  True, power corrupts people if they can't control it.  But power does not make people evil.  Power is like the Triforce; it doesn't judge between good and evil.  It just exists.  What makes people evil is what they do, and sometimes that's just a matter of opinion.

Either way, Ganon seems more evil to me.

More evil than Vaati, or just the evilest?

Majora's mask. crashing the moon to the earht is much more insidious than kidnapping zelda.

i voted for links shadow...because it wierds me out that a shadow of link can pop up outta thin air  :o

majora's mask is the evilist because it was making a moon fall down in 3 days

Ganon all the way trying to git the power from link and zelda

your right but smashing a peaceful place is a bit worse think of all those people that will die

oh right ::)

You forgot Veran. And I like Majora's Mask.

Alright this was said like way too long ago but on the statement that majora wasn't insane, have you seen Majora's incarnation? Also when you talk to majora-kid in the moon he asks "do you want to play with me?" also if you don't have fierce deity mask he says " you don't have many powerful masks..." as if he was dissappointed at the lack of challenge.

I also like Vaati, but I mostly like the Majora's Mask (including other forms). Also, I beat the three forms without the Fierce Diety Mask (even though I had it, I used a walkthrough all throughout the game, so I punished myself)

Majora isn't hard without the fierce deity's mask if you know how to fight him, but I do like his warped freakish body. Although the voice kind of contradicts Him/Her/It.

How exactly do you kill the Majora's mask or what ever its called .Cause i've tried but i cant do it

Just keep hitting him. He'll die eventually. It's a lot quicker if you use the Fierce Diety Mask.

How do you get that because i cant find it :(

Get all other Masks
Go to the moon
Do each kid's little game/trial and give them the number of masks they ask for
If you've gotten all masks and given them to all kids, go talk with the kid with Majora's Mask. He will give the FD mask to you.

cool

              Thanx ;D

Okay first form, use zora link's boomerangs to stun him and change to human to slash. He will eventually make himself look like a sun and start to fire beams, use your mirror sheild to reflect it. Also the four boss masks will attack you, just use your bow to kill them.

Second form is easy, he will run around the room. Hit him with your bow and he'll trip, then slash away.

Third is annoying but pretty easy. Stay as zora link when he's not stunned and be careful to block any jumping attacks with your fin-shield. When he starts to whip his tendrils use the electric shield and he will be electrocuted. Then change to human and slash him. Repeat.

Thank thank thank thank  ;D   your very grateful (why did i say that thats not like me at all)

No prob

Proboly Ganondorf, He was in control of the whole world for awile.

so what .  MM was going to desroy a town when he had no right to

The heck with just one town! An object that large would destroy the entire WORLD if it were to impact the planet!

I think that backs it up more. :D

yep i think so to ;D

Oh, ptht! If left to his own devices, Ganondorf would've actually conquered the whole world, and kill everybody who got in his way, maybe even some other people if he got bored, but did Majora's Mask kill anybody (yet?)? I haven't heard. Plus, Ganondorf had more than just a few evil monsters dwelling within dungeons. And I'm just talking about the bosses. While with Majora's Mask, I could only count at least 4 or 5. Maybe a little more. While Ganondorf had Molgera, Bongo bongo, Gohma, Vaati, Twinrova, King Dodongo, Jalhalla, Morpha, Helmaroc King, Puppet Ganon, etc. I mean, alot! If they both had an army sent against eachother, well, numbers do not help win a battle, but in this case, the odds have it. Ganondorf could take Majora's Mask and break it in his palm any day he wanted! So there! PTTTHHH! :P :P :P

The mask was created from pure evil, it doesent have a heart to begin with.

Quote from: Link104 on November 29, 2006, 05:36:28 PM
Oh, ptht! If left to his own devices, Ganondorf would've actually conquered the whole world, and kill everybody who got in his way, maybe even some other people if he got bored, but did Majora's Mask kill anybody (yet?)? I haven't heard. Plus, Ganondorf had more than just a few evil monsters dwelling within dungeons. And I'm just talking about the bosses. While with Majora's Mask, I could only count at least 4 or 5. Maybe a little more. While Ganondorf had Molgera, Bongo bongo, Gohma, Vaati, Twinrova, King Dodongo, Jalhalla, Morpha, Helmaroc King, Puppet Ganon, etc. I mean, alot! If they both had an army sent against eachother, well, numbers do not help win a battle, but in this case, the odds have it. Ganondorf could take Majora's Mask and break it in his palm any day he wanted! So there! PTTTHHH! :P :P :P

A. It's about EVIL, not powerful. Besides, I bet that Majora's Mask could easily steal Ganondorf's body if he wanted to and squish the life out of it. (That, or go to zeldacomic.net to find the ultimate body Majora's Mask could posses. Even Ganondorf cannot win of him then. ^^)
B. I haven't seen Ganondorf kill anyone out of boredom ever and I doubt he would. He's not the stupid kind of dark lord that ignores his brain in favor of his evilness. Besides, so Ganondorf is more evil because he could kill people, and Majora's Mask isn't because he hasn't done so yet? That's not a fair way to judge. And just so you know, a whole world would have been destroyed if Link wouldn't have stopped MM, which he only could do on time thanks to the Ocarina. Didn't he do the same with Ganondorf in Hyrule (if you believe the split-timeline)? And yes, MM killed at least one person: the Deku-child.
C. Vaati is not Ganondorf's minion. And again, who cares. This is not about powerful but about evil. Ganondorf got years to get his position, MM only needed one day (yep, not three).

Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 29, 2006, 11:52:52 PM

A. It's about EVIL, not powerful. Besides, I bet that Majora's Mask could easily steal Ganondorf's body if he wanted to and squish the life out of it. (That, or go to zeldacomic.net to find the ultimate body Majora's Mask could posses. Even Ganondorf cannot win of him then. ^^)
B. I haven't seen Ganondorf kill anyone out of boredom ever and I doubt he would. He's not the stupid kind of dark lord that ignores his brain in favor of his evilness. Besides, so Ganondorf is more evil because he could kill people, and Majora's Mask isn't because he hasn't done so yet? That's not a fair way to judge. And just so you know, a whole world would have been destroyed if Link wouldn't have stopped MM, which he only could do on time thanks to the Ocarina. Didn't he do the same with Ganondorf in Hyrule (if you believe the split-timeline)? And yes, MM killed at least one person: the Deku-child.
C. Vaati is not Ganondorf's minion. And again, who cares. This is not about powerful but about evil. Ganondorf got years to get his position, MM only needed one day (yep, not three).

A. Ganondoef has something that Majora's mask doesent. The Triforce of Power. Granted so bvy the goddesses, I'm sure he would squash the mask, maybe even harness its power. The Title: King of Evil, isnt just for show.
B. Ganondorf has something else that the Mask doesent. A brain. He did kill people, in fact, he enslaved most of them. There are things worse than death, trust me. Besides, if he killed everything like the mask intended to, he wouldnt have anything to rule. He's be the last one left.
C. No, Vatti was after the light force, Ganondorf was after the Triforce. And The reason it only took the mask one day, is because it was created, not born. Ganondorf had to grow, in strength and power. I like Ganondorf better than any other villan out there, yes, he tops the villans in my favorite animes too.

I have a problem with your second point, ZV.  It's true that Majora's Mask didn't have a brain, but it obviously didn't need one.  It came to life and took over Skull Kid's body.  Once he got rid of Skull Kid's body, he was able to function on his own.

Quote from: Zelda Veteran on December 03, 2006, 11:21:17 AM
A. Ganondoef has something that Majora's mask doesent. The Triforce of Power. Granted so bvy the goddesses, I'm sure he would squash the mask, maybe even harness its power. The Title: King of Evil, isnt just for show.
B. Ganondorf has something else that the Mask doesent. A brain. He did kill people, in fact, he enslaved most of them. There are things worse than death, trust me. Besides, if he killed everything like the mask intended to, he wouldnt have anything to rule. He's be the last one left.

A. So what? The one that carries the Triforce of Power can be defeated. And no, not necessarily by the ones holding the Triforce of Courage and the Triforce of Wisdom. Link did NOT have the Triforce of Courage when fighting Ganon in TLOZ, meaning the Triforce of Power can be beaten by any (true) hero. Nothing specific is needed. And remember the Lightforce? Whatever it is (nothing less than the Triforce), nothing specific is needed to defeat it. Maybe the full thing is omnipotent, but parts of it are not.
B. I, uuh, have not played TP yet, so I might be wrong, but I cannot remember any time Ganondorf enslaved people. And what does the rest of B has to do with who's more evil? What if Majora's Mask doesn't intend to rule anything but derives pleasure from harming others? One harms to get power, the other harms to harm. What's worse? And yes, there are worse things than death. Like being torn apart and have your body scattered all over the place. Or your children getting taken from you (eventually resulting in their father dying in an attempt to get them back). Or your son being murdered. Yep, worse things exist.

The worst kind of pain is heart pain. Some people could testify to that. and I would say something that would make me the evil-est but im going to bite my tongue on this one. :P

Jeeze, I didn't even think about this stuff! Who knew?

Also, there is a small matter of the way Ganondorf keeps coming back. Even if you kill him, his followers are going to do the best they can just to bring him back. Has that ever come with Majoras Mask? No. If you seal him away, he's either going to brake the seal, wait for it to weaken over time, or his followers are going to get him out. Remember, he is so Evil and powerful that most of his followers consider him a god. And, even if Majoras mask were to even try to control him, (remember, Ganondorf has no interest of masks) he would take one look at it, and, if he's in the right mood, leave it where he left it, or just crush it in the palm of his hand. And besides, the skull kid was only one life. We are talking about the whole world. You can destroy the Majoras mask, and I doubt it would return, but you kill or seal Ganondorf away, he will still come back even from death, because he isn't shattered all over the place.

No, Majora's Mask...erhm "followers" rejected him because they realized he/it was to dangerous, even for them. Since Ganondorf's followers aren't scared of him, who seems to be more evil?

Because two of his followers are his own mothers, Twinrova. They are usually there to keep Ganondorf from getting too angry.

As much as I think Vaati totally rocks, I think Ganon is more evil. Don't ask me why, I don't even know, he just does.

I have to go with Link's Shadow from AoL cause I will never forget when I got the game when it first came out and it took me forever to beat that SOB. So that is what makes him evil to me, now if the others would have killed some puppies then I would have to consider him but all these years later I still sweat when I face the original shadow.

But it's like what Hi no Seijin said earlier, (I think it was him) it's not that you thought they were hard, it's just the fact that they're more evil.

What did those mask wearing kids say anyway? Oh and I vote Majora. HEY! I just thought of something! Who is Majora?! Because the mask couldn't be Majora because it's called Majoras Mask. Majora's as in possesive!

Majora is definetly the most evil. Majora's Mask tried to destroy the planet. Thats like if your shoe destroyed the planet. 8) Imagine the actual Majora. Plus since MM is just a mask, it has no compassion or worldly loves, unlike Ganon or Vaati, who were once people and have things like fear, MM is just PURE evil.

Was majora really evil? I mean, she (yes, i think it's a she, because when she sreams) was alone for at least 2000 years. Unable to die. Unable to move. unable to have conact with anything else. What would you do? What would you think? And I do think she had a concious. She wanted people to know what it was like to feel such sorrow. but maybe because of the way she was made. She harmed the people she did because of the Skull Kids emotions, at least partially. And I think she might have been trying to erase herself completely by destroying the world with the moon.

Majora is definatley evil, the mask, well you could argue either way.

I think Majora's Mask is the most evil.

MM has no emotions. Vaati, Dark, and Ganon do. If you killed their most loved ones, then they would probably break down and cry. Majora's Mask had no one. Nothing.

Besides, Majora's Mask doesn't have to kill; It destroys people from the inside out. She disrupted the sea and almost wiped out the Zoras, she froze over the mountain village... MM messes with the environment as opposed to killing them. Would you prefer to die a quick death or slowly freeze to death on a usually warm mountain?

Also, look at what she did to the only guy in Ikana Canyon-- He turned him into a half-mummy, and all he could do was scream in agony. And Kafei and Anju? She destroyed their marriage by turning Kafei into a child, and then they wouldn't wed-- the one thing they were looking forward to.

And MM hurt her host, too; she sealed away Skull kid's memories and trapped his friends in these gargantuan monsters Skull kid would never even know how to kill.

Quite honestly, I think that's more even than say, turning people to stone, trying to kill people, or... just being the anti-thesis of the hero.

Exactly. Took the words right out of my mouth(eww, get outa there).