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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: MasterKeyX on October 15, 2006, 08:27:50 AM

Title: Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 15, 2006, 08:27:50 AM
North Korea is in clear defiance of the U.N. and the rest of the world. Is anybody else remotely worried if North Korea begins to possess nuclear power? It could be very dangerous to the united Sates and its allies.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: Gamefreak on October 15, 2006, 10:08:10 AM
Yes, Kim Jong Il is a person who is unstable.  He'll start to begin to target Western countries, or Japan.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: alical on October 15, 2006, 01:28:47 PM
Yesh he better not. I can't believe people thought Japan would also want to go Nuclear like.

Anyway on a brighter note. In our cooking class we are doing airline meals and we can pick a country to base them on. I am doing North Korea, they have been getting bad press, and the majority of civillians probably feel bad.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: Gamefreak on October 15, 2006, 05:13:21 PM
Not really the citizens fault, they just happened to be born in an evil country.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: alical on October 16, 2006, 10:45:14 AM
Exactly! The poor things. Because of their countries awful views they can't even leave, and no one can get in and help them :'(
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 16, 2006, 01:09:47 PM
they are oppressed. maybe, one day, they will be free. Besides, Kim Jon II is bound to fall one day.  
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 16, 2006, 01:16:47 PM
N. Korea has just been proven to own nukes. It is far more serious than you realize.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: alical on October 17, 2006, 11:54:42 AM
Well doi. A few days ago they just tested one underground.
Title: Re:North Korea!
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 17, 2006, 12:05:43 PM
You know, Iran should be discussed here, too. And so should other major events.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 17, 2006, 02:27:23 PM
Hey, look at that, I can change topic titles.

Anyways, now that this topic is about nuclear things, Iran is something of a tossup.  On one hand, it's almost possible to believe that they might want it for peaceful uses.  On the other, it came from a person who says the Holocaust is a lie and keeps threatening attacks if we snoop around him.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 17, 2006, 02:29:50 PM
Iran directly stated if it ever gets nukes, Israel will be shot at immediately.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 17, 2006, 02:33:50 PM
Oh yeah, and that.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 17, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
Yes, so it is very dangerous. They should know the consequences ofsuch an attack.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 17, 2006, 04:36:54 PM
Iran cannot, at any costs, have nuclear power in their hands. Their leader is interested in beginning another holocaust, this time against Israel. The U.N must intervene. And North Korea, by the way, is testing another nuke soon...
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Pale Dim on October 18, 2006, 01:40:28 PM
My teacher in history told us that Korea has nuclear weopons so that we could fear and respect them, and then be willing to trade with them. But Iran? Whoa! I don't feel safe anymore!
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: newbkyng on October 18, 2006, 02:32:20 PM
I know they're psycho and everything, but if you ask me, they're doing this to be feared/respected.
And I don't think the UN would ever have an effect on Il at all.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 18, 2006, 05:11:15 PM
True, they'd just try to propose peaceful plans until the worst happens.  I'm going to make a few people angry with this, but sometimes, the only option is war.  It was the only option with Iraq, it was the only option against Hezbollah.  Sometimes, war is what works.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 18, 2006, 05:16:14 PM
I do agree, and N. Korea should be invaded, it'll only cause more trouble. In fact, N. Korea is as famous for disrupting world peace from time to time as Switzerland is for being neutral.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 18, 2006, 05:19:15 PM
I guess we're between a rock and a hard place.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 18, 2006, 05:21:31 PM
We should also invade Iran, and mabye we should send a few troops to defend Israel from its neighbors.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 18, 2006, 05:24:09 PM
And that brings up a good point.  We're a little stretched on the issue of troop supply.  We have troops stationed along the Mexican border.  Also troops in Iraq are the major part of it.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 18, 2006, 05:27:59 PM
We could leave Iraq, and our allies are leaving us (England) and betraying us (Pakistan). Really, though, there are two things that made the region like this: little education, because the leaders realize people uneducated can be convinced to do what they say easier; and no religious freedom, another Muslim leader policy, believing they are the superior religion.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 18, 2006, 06:13:53 PM
i agree: war is the only option, and it looks like it may be the only way for N.K.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 18, 2006, 06:39:38 PM
No, Britain will remain faithful as long as Tony Blair is in charge.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: darkphantomime on October 19, 2006, 08:19:12 PM
All I can say is, invade and start a war with WHAT? We have no troops to spare. We can't bomb them, and risk thousands of civillian deaths. We can't rely on negotiations either so what to do?

If this is gonna be a war, it shouldn't be JUST the US going to war. In this case, we could invade all these countries. But the international community has to see all these countries as a current threat in order to declare war on them.  And unite in order to fight together, in the same fashion as WWII. I'm sorry to say it, but it looks like WWIII is coming really fast. Before we know it, everyone will be in this huge cataclymsic war and we woa't know what the hell to do.

If we go to war alone, then we automatically  lose. I'm saying that this is so big that we can't handle it on our own. The powers that be have become so tense and there has been so much disturbance, that it is really loooking bad now. It's not that war is THE answer, it's that it's sadly becoming one of our few remaining options.

I don't even know if this planet can stand another World War. I don't know if you and I or anyone else here will be able to see beyond into the days of peace. All I can say is that this is one very big a** emergency, and right now, we're pretty much freaking screwed. Because to them, the UN doesn't exist, what we need now is the international community to declare war on them. But I don't know if we'll ever be the same after this war.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 20, 2006, 10:50:04 AM
you know, i saw a video about WWII today, and it brought tears to my eyes. Those great men died for our sakes. And i dont think the world can handle another World War. But if North Korea continues to pursue nuclear ambitions, it may happen faster than you think.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: alical on October 20, 2006, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: Kakashi Hatake on October 18, 2006, 06:39:38 PM
No, Britain will remain faithful as long as Tony Blair is in charge.

Yeah, but Tony Blair has already said he is resigning. He will be gone by this time next year. He is meant to leave around March I think, whenever it is its not far off.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Gamefreak on October 21, 2006, 08:22:56 AM
But the problem with uniting is, that most of the current world isn't exactly friendly with us.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Pale Dim on October 21, 2006, 08:45:29 AM
Well Kakashi Hatake, look in the White house, and you will see why.

Also, war is what the U.S. has been trying to avoid for a long time. My history teacher said that our men are put into war only if our country feels confident that it will be a victory. What Darkpuppet fears said is a pretty good point, but as far as we're concerned, nothing can be done about it. Only time can tell.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 22, 2006, 07:06:58 AM
The reason most of the world doesnt like the U.S is because it's a world Superpower.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: Pale Dim on October 22, 2006, 09:59:36 AM
That's reason number 2.
Title: Re:Nuclear Crisis
Post by: MasterKeyX on October 23, 2006, 05:53:22 PM
whats reason number 1? :-\