Ever notice how the eyeball sign that represents Vaati in certain places of FS, FSA, and maybe Minish Cap? On this one website (I forgot which one) they wondered about it and had this theory that it's the Shiekah sign. So...is Vaati part Minish/part Shiekah? :-\
The Minish could have their own Sheikah race, but the eye symbolism could just be coincidence. The same thing could mean different things to different people. To me, mistletoe is just a plant. But to others, it's a symbol of fertility.
Also, the Shiekah, assuming that this is after TWW, are probably extinct by now, and the Minish, reading a book, happened upon it and liked it and took it as their own.
That too. And the Sheikah don't necessarily have to be extinct. After all, they are the People of the Shadow. They're masters of illusions, so there race could be in hiding, waiting for the appropriate time to reveal themselves.
Well, I only said they are probably extinct, based on what the game series shows. Plus, they was only one Shiekah shown in the game series, Impa, and she's definetly dead by now.
I don't think it's the symbol of the Minish race, really, more like just Vaati's own symbol in general.
Or mabye it is what his inner self looks like, because when someone puts the Minish Cap on, it reacts differently to how pure their soul is.
Having your inner self as a cyclops, puzzling. :-\
Quote from: Shino Aburame on November 11, 2006, 08:40:26 AM
Well, I only said they are probably extinct, based on what the game series shows. Plus, they was only one Shiekah shown in the game series, Impa, and she's definetly dead by now.
It is possible the gravekeeper also was one. Besides, are the Sheikah a race or a tribe? Because if they are a tribe, it doesn't matter if Impa was the last official one. She only would need to get a few pupils and maybe a child and the tribe would stay alive. And if they are a race: there still is a "male Sheikah" alive at the end of (adult ::))OOT. Sure, it depends a little on what one believes, but Sheik is a male Sheikah, even if only thanks to magic.
I think the eye symbol is just coincidence. I mean, look at our own world. Their are tons of eye symbols.
Well, actually. Sheik was really Princess Zelda in disguise.
By inner slef, I meant what your soul would look like if it had a physical form.
Quote from: Vaati on November 12, 2006, 06:30:34 AM
Well, actually. Sheik was really Princess Zelda in disguise.
I know, that's why I said "by magic". But Sheik is a male Sheikah if you ask me.
Well, what happens in the adult ending doesn't matter. According to TSA TP destroys the split timeline so much it pretty much renders it impossible. :-*
I don't really think that he is part shiekah, but there always could that slight possiblity.
Would you consider Link a Deku, Zora or Goron with the masks on or even a bunny in ALTTP in the Dark World? Magic in TLOZ can change one, translating his/her DNA to what it would be if that person was of a different species. So why would it be impossible for Zelda if she's Sheik? Her eye-colour and skincolour are different and no matter whether Sheik's a boy or a girl, he/she looks way more muscular in that form than as Zelda. Sheik is a Sheikah (if you ask me) and Zelda a Hylian, no matter if they are the same person.
But in WW, Tetra was able to get rid of her tan somehow when she turned into Princess Zelda, so she'd probably be able to do the same thing like she did as Shiek.
That's why I think OOT Zelda has been Sheik most of her life after fleeing.
But how could she get rid of her muscles and red eyes?
QuoteBut in WW, Tetra was able to get rid of her tan somehow when she turned into Princess Zelda, so she'd probably be able to do the same thing like she did as Shiek.
Make-up usually makes your skin lighter.
It must have been a lot of make-up because she was REALLY tan.
Shiek wasn't a real person. Shiek was a desquis made up by Zelda. By the way I think the shieka are a race becaus many websites catagorize them as one.
And why did Zelda have to dress up as a male Shiekah? With the figure she has, it seem like it would be kind of hard to make herself look muscular.
Well, a random Sheikah female exactly the same age as the fugitive princess isn't really much of a disguise, now is it? It's rather suspicious, actually. Disguising herself as a male Sheikah distances her from that instant suspicion. As for the muscles, I think that's a combination of magic and living on the run for seven years. And Zelda's figure is not so womanly (like Telma) that it would be extremely hard to disguise herself as a male.
What Ms. Fang said.
QuoteBy the way I think the shieka are a race becaus many websites catagorize them as one.
I think the Sheikah are a different race because they have a different type of magic than the Hylians.
And maybe, perhaps the second closest to the goddesses, (right next to the Oocca)
Interesting, but the Hylians are supposedly the chosen race of the goddesses, and the Sheikah their shadows. That makes them sound a little less favored by the goddesses then the Hylians.
Quote from: Eralk Fang on January 20, 2007, 04:52:25 PM
Interesting, but the Hylians are supposedly the chosen race of the goddesses, and the Sheikah their shadows. That makes them sound a little less favored by the goddesses then the Hylians.
I think that mabey the Shiekah were once the Hylians. Mabey they did something bad and they were turned from Hylians to Sheikah. That would explain why the Shiakah look similar to Hylians. Or mabey the were changed from Hylian to Shiekah by some other way.
The Sheikah are definitely their own race. They have a distinct appearance, and they have their own symbol. Not to mention they die out, which if anybody could become a Sheikah would be very hard.
Yeah, because wasn't Impa the "last of the Shiekah?"
No. She's just the only Sheikah in the game. It doesn't even mention they are near extinction. TP makes me believe that in OoT there are still many Sheikahs alive (enough to build a new village).
The only 'distinct' appearance the Sheikah have is their eyes. And that doesn't say much. I don't believe neither the Hylia or the Sheikah are different races. I believe they, and the Kokiri, have common ancesters.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 12, 2006, 11:16:26 PM
I know, that's why I said "by magic". But Sheik is a male Sheikah if you ask me.
Ok so acording to your theory, If a woman put on a man's clothing, she would be turned into a man ::).
I personally think she didn't use magic at all. She just put on the clothes of a Shiekah male, talked so her voice sounds diffrent, and used the Hyrulean equivlent of red contacts.
I'm not saying that the magic theory is impossible, but Zelda is definantly not a Shiekah male.
Of course not, but I'm thinking that when Shiek turned into Zelda there was that flash of light that I'm guessing was some kind of magic, so maybe she did the same when she was turning into Shiek.
Mabey it was a mentle disquise, not a physical one. Mabey she used the Triforce to make her just apperear to look like that.
In her mind she looked normal, but to every one else she looks different.
Uhg this is hard to explain.
Why do people spell it Shiekah? Is it really that hard to place the i and the e in their right spots? :-\
Just remember "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'." It's different in German if you hear the 'E' the 'E' comes first, if you hear the 'I', the 'I' comes first.
To Iron Knuckle, about the mental diguise thing, is it one of those Criss Angel Mindfreak things, do you mean?
Quote from: Vaati on March 14, 2007, 03:55:26 PM
Just remember "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'." It's different in German if you hear the 'E' the 'E' comes first, if you hear the 'I', the 'I' comes first.
To Iron Knuckle, about the mental diguise thing, is it one of those Criss Angel Mindfreak things, do you mean?
Thanks for showing me how to spell diguise right. I still don't know what your talking about. Whats Criss Angle Mindfreak?
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I think the Twili are the Shiekah. If so, Vaati could be a Twili wannabe.
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Quote from: Bboy94 on March 18, 2007, 07:11:45 PM
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I think the Twili are the Shiekah. If so, Vaati could be a Twili wannabe.
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I recall reading somewhere that the tear in the Sheikah sybol represents a betrayal of the Roya lFamily and that before that it was just aneye. I don't remember where
It sounds like fanon to me.
Quote from: Iron Knuckle on March 19, 2007, 03:47:32 PM
I recall reading somewhere that the tear in the Sheikah sybol represents a betrayal of the Roya lFamily and that before that it was just aneye. I don't remember where
That was from the
Ocarina of Time manga. The manga should never be considered canon, due to the fact they openly contradict the games at several points (Nabooru's role as Twinrova's minion is extremely different in the manga than in the game).
Errmm... just t throw it out there, altleast in my eyes the Shiekah are a different race. Have you seen the chuffin size of impa... shes HUGE! Too bif to be just a particularly big hyrulian.
I was wondering about the whole Shiekah/Hylian relationship. Why exactly do the Shiekah protect the royal familly? Is it because the Hylians are suppost to be the closest to the gods or did the royal familly help them in some way?
Guys, Vaati was origianally a Minish. He just used Ezlos magic hat (can't remember the name its probly Minish Cap though) to be normal sized. If he was originally a Minish (which is about 2 inces tall) how could he have been a Sheikah (which as Marcamillian pointed out is about 6ft 4)?
When did anyone say he was a sheikah. I said a wannabe.
It's assumed. Being that his symbol looks alot like the Sheikah symbol.