I think they messed up with the new sages of the Wind and Earth temples.Medli should be sage of wind and Makar should be sage of earth.What do you think?
Well, I think that since Medli lives on Dragon Roost Island and being that's the place full of molten lava and fire, she'd be more like a fire sage, and Makr a foret sage, being that he's from the Forest Haven.
Well I thought Medli for the Wind temple because the rito people are amuned to the sky.Maybe Dragon Roost but I think Valoo is better suited,since he is the beholder of the Rito wings.The great deku tree is of the Forest Haven.
They did NOT mess up, but you have to know the background info.
The original OOT was supposed to be bigger than what it eventually became, and different. For instance, Link in Zelda64 did grew up among his own kind, not Kokiri. The Great Faeries were more like angels than what they eventually became and a lot more. One important thing is that there were supposed to be MORE temples. They wanted Zelda64's temples to be like ALTTP's temples. It's a bit of guessing what happened. Either they didn't had enough time or it would be too much for the cardridge to implement the other two temples (two, because there are an Ice and a Wind Medallion findable in the code of the game). Or they were supposed to be in the add-on that never came (and which is not Master Quest).
Now, I don't know why this is, but a lot of times, the elements Wind and Wood/Forest are merged into one (look at Sailor Jupiter for instance). They also often have the same colour: green. Both Fado (the blond Kokiri girl)and Saria can be seen in very early screenshots. Saria, as we know, is the Forest Sage. Why on earth was her part in Ganondorf's Castle then all about wind? And why does Fado obviously has a lot more story to her than is told? Her name looks a lot like Mido's and she seems to be connected to him some way. She for some reason is gone in the adulttime. And why does she look different from the other Kokiri girls if only Hylians, Humans (not sure if they're in the game) and the ones important for the story (shallow if you ask me) are recognizable? A few answers are possible, but it eventually comes down to that a Kokiri (Fado or Saria) should've been the Wind Sage.
And Fado most likely should've been that if we look at TWW. Fado's name got recycled by a Kokiri that could easily be a reincarnation or descendant (similar looks and personality) of the original Fado and he was the former Wind Sage. My guess is that they picked up that part of the original Zelda64 and included it in TWW. That's why a Korok is the Wind Sage. I guess the reason why Medli is the Earth Sage is because Nintendo realized they were missing a birdlike race and the earth element. Otherwise she'd probably been the Ice Sage.
Wow, I thought it was because the wind temple had the forest inside it, and the earth temple, well, I don't know about that one.
I'd also like to mention this:
If TWW would've been a few centuries earlier in the HyruleUniverse, would you have thought it was odd a Zora was the Earth Sage and a Kokiri the Wind Sage and not the other way around? Sageship is not bound to a race. If evolution (no, don't get me wrong. *I* don't think the Zora evolved and became the Rito) and breeding between the races is possible in the HU, then it's likely that the job of a specific Sage has been done by representatives of different races.
Also, something that supports her is that in all other games, besides OOT, the first seven sages are humans and Hylians, not the races in OOT.
Still, I think the original format for OOT (all seven dungeons of LTTP) would have been a better idea. It would explain for more things, and plus, it would be interesting, because I don't know what all the sages would be.
Also, in the OOT mangas, it mentions a bird-people race very similar to the Rito, but a little more bird-like. I think the idea of bird-people was going to be in the original game, and this is possible proof. They just decidied to give them more human feautures, and possibly more Zora features.
Quote from: Shino Aburame on November 22, 2006, 10:50:33 AM
Also, in the OOT mangas, it mentions a bird-people race very similar to the Rito, but a little more bird-like. I think the idea of bird-people was going to be in the original game, and this is possible proof. They just decidied to give them more human feautures, and possibly more Zora features.
Evolution does more than change humans, because you'll notice how Laruto said "Find the one who carries on my bloodline" or something like that.
Point seen, point taken. Trees grow in earth, not on wind. But they didn't mess up, obviously.
Quote from: Anju on November 18, 2006, 07:43:49 AM
I think they messed up with the new sages of the Wind and Earth temples.Medli should be sage of wind and Makar should be sage of earth.What do you think?
Yeah, I mean COME ON!!
Medli: Flies. Is a bird.
Makar: Is a leaf and part of a tree.
Tsk, what a drag...
Ok, Medli is a Rito, first off. Next she is the attendant to Valoo, Guardian of the Sky. Makar is the attendant to the Great Deku Tree, Guardian of the Earth.
Quote from: Iron Knuckle on June 22, 2007, 04:13:14 PM
Ok, Medli is a Rito, first off. Next she is the attendant to Valoo, Guardian of the Sky. Makar is the attendant to the Great Deku Tree, Guardian of the Earth.
Yeah, only the thing is... Medli is the Sage of
Earth and Makar is the Sage of
Wind. You said that Medli was the attendant of Valoo, " " " ", and she isn't the Sage of Wind. The same goes for Makar.
Anyway, regardless of race, I think that a part of their "Sagedom" would be due to their instruments. Both Fado and Laruto (that's her name, right?) had the same instruments that Makar and Medli had, respectively. I see a connection there.
The spirit of the sages passes down to different races. Just like how the Avatar takes turns between the nations..
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on June 23, 2007, 10:02:43 AM
The spirit of the sages passes down to different races. Just like how the Avatar takes turns between the nations..
That show is one of the worst animes I've ever seen (besides One Piece, Gundam Wing, and Pokemon).
That's off topic. I give you a warning for an off-topic post. It has nothing to do with the fact you just insulted a great show ::)whatsoever.
Not really, I won't warn you, since new members get a one-time excuse I think. Read the rules in the Announcements thread so you won't end up getting one...
Anyways, I thought that Makar and Medli should have been the other sage until I thought it through more.
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 23, 2007, 09:10:56 AM
Quote from: Iron Knuckle on June 22, 2007, 04:13:14 PM
Ok, Medli is a Rito, first off. Next she is the attendant to Valoo, Guardian of the Sky. Makar is the attendant to the Great Deku Tree, Guardian of the Earth.
Yeah, only the thing is... Medli is the Sage of Earth and Makar is the Sage of Wind. You said that Medli was the attendant of Valoo, " " " ", and she isn't the Sage of Wind. The same goes for Makar.
Anyway, regardless of race, I think that a part of their "Sagedom" would be due to their instruments. Both Fado and Laruto (that's her name, right?) had the same instruments that Makar and Medli had, respectively. I see a connection there.
What I mean is, seeing as how Valoo is wind, than Medli should be wind, same with Makar and the GDT.
I agree with shikamaru. It is possible that the role of a sage passes down race by race. Just like in the avatar. It could also be blood. Makar's people where once the Kokori seen in Oot. And Medli it's possoble that there was crossbreeding between the two races. I dont like the thought of evolution from Zora to Rito.
Quote from: Takun on June 24, 2007, 08:20:51 PM
I agree with shikamaru. It is possible that the role of a sage passes down race by race. Just like in the avatar. It could also be blood. Makar's people where once the Kokori seen in Oot. And Medli it's possoble that there was crossbreeding between the two races. I dont like the thought of evolution from Zora to Rito.
In OOT the sages made sence, one for each major race, and the temples were near the major population center of that race. In WW, they use diffrent races, and the temples are nowhere near the major population center (eg. the Wind temple is on the other side of the sea from the Forest Haven).
In WW only two sages were revealed though, not to mention the flood mixed a lot of stuff up. They could have lived near it before, but the area they were living in got flooded and they had to relocate.
Then how come he wears a skirt? (Silly Vaati, it's a KILT!) jk.
Yes, Fado is a boy.
Fado in Ocarina of Time. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time#Fado)
But he looks like a boy in WW ;)
Maybe, just maybe, they are different people?
leik, ZOMG, no wai!!!!!!111
Fado is the female Kokiri character in OoT.
(http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/e/e7/Fadooot.PNG)
Fado is the Sage of Winds from TWW.
(http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/5/53/Fado.gif)
Fado is the male Ordonian goat-herder from TP.
(http://zeldadungeon.net/Zelda11/Characters/Fado.gif)
The name could be unisex.
...I don't wanna know. ::)
I think what he meant was "multisex" or whatever. Unisex means it can only belong to one gender.
I agree, it would make a lot more sense if Fado was the earth sage, and Medli was the win sage.
Maybe Nintendo only switched em to make the game, playout the way they wanted.
For ex.
If Nintendo wanted you to get the item for the Wind temple first, you'd obviously meet the Wind sage at the first part of the game, regardless of the location.
Remember, they had to work with the same OoT time map, so somethings had to be worked around.
Quote from: Vaati on July 04, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
I think what he meant was "multisex" or whatever. Unisex means it can only belong to one gender.
Wait, really? *checks Dictionary.com*
Hmph, it seems Dictionary.com disagrees with you, Vaati:
Quoteunisex
-adjective
Of, designed, or suitable for both sexes; not distinguishing between male and female; undifferentiated as to sex
And also, according to it,
multisex isn't a real word.
I can see why Vaati made that mistake.
After all, one in Espanol, is Uno.
Uno-Unisex.
Very confusing.
Quote from: MagmarFire on July 06, 2008, 09:36:15 PMAnd also, according to it, multisex isn't a real word.
I think someone needs to tell
your mom that.
And yeah, names really mean nothing. Now, if they shared a similar sprite and role in the storyline, THEN that might mean something.