Anyone here have problems in science classes? Doesn't matter what, it could be general science, chemistry, biology, space science, and enviromental science, or other ones you guys have.
My problem with science classes are that they allow no room for magic and other unlogical stuff.
My problem is, like talk about the big bang theory, they never once mention god in the discussion, I'd slap them in the head for that, cause we all know god created the earth.
You mean christians believe god created the earth.
I'm not trying to start something, but that's all a matter of belief. Also, keep in mind that atheists tend to make a big freaking deal about God being said around them, and they also tend to win court decisisions relating to stuff that has to do with God being talked about or mentioned in public places like schools.
Still, its rather stupid on why they don't mention him.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 17, 2007, 05:00:23 PM
I'm not trying to start something, but that's all a matter of belief. Also, keep in mind that atheists tend to make a big freaking deal about God being said around them, and they also tend to win court decisisions relating to stuff that has to do with God being talked about or mentioned in public places like schools.
That was not addressed at me, was it?
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on January 17, 2007, 04:55:49 PM
You mean christians believe god created the earth.
Yes, Christians do believe that. And what I said wasn't aimed at anyone. I just stated what I observe, and I observe that atheists tend to make a big deal about God being mentioned in public. But then, maybe that isn't really all that fair because if I do interact with atheists on a daily basis, they aren't making a big fuss like the ones who land themselves in the media spotlight do. So if you are an atheist and you're offended by what I said, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you, but I still stand by my statement that some atheists make too big a deal about God being mentioned in public.
So moving right along, what is your hardest science class, mine is biology, we are learning about evolution, and I think its just plain stupid.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 17, 2007, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on January 17, 2007, 04:55:49 PM
You mean christians believe god created the earth.
So if you are an atheist and you're offended by what I said, I'm sorry.
You've seen my userbar haven't you? :)
And no, I'm not offended. I just thought it was a pretty random thing to say.
Is anyone paying attention to my last post?
...Anyways, I always hated science. I did like bio in high school, though, but alot of that had to do with the teacher. Luckily I only had to take two science classes in college and both were pretty much jokes.
I think biology is just down right boring, and to top it all off, I don't understand any of it.
Quote from: Wolf Link on January 17, 2007, 05:18:27 PM
So moving right along, what is your hardest science class, mine is biology, we are learning about evolution, and I think its just plain stupid.
HEEEEEEEEEEEERE we go again!
Main reason why we do not put god in the classrooms as a backdrop to evolution is because some of the 'alternate' 'theories' are nothing more but hypothesises, without evidence or research to adequately support it.
We could say that God was the big bang, we could say that God was evolution. Its all based on perception. Just don't get so upset, this is a rather touchy issue...
The thing about hypothesises becoming theories is that there has to be a way we can test hypothesises. And as I am aware of it, there is no way to adequately test such things as 'intelligent design'. Which is why intelligent design is more of a hypothesis than a true theory.
from wikipedia:
QuoteIn science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation.
I don't think we're supposed to understand it. Especially if you approach science with a religious view and rather explain everything away by saying "Oh, that's just how God wanted it to be like."
Well, I have a problem with Earth science, and I don't know why.
I have problems on my online earth/space class, its rather confusing.
Remember unless you want to become a scientist, science means nothing...but social studies, that is your most important subject. Cherish your moments in there and learn for those are what make you a quality citizen. I am not biased or anything ;D
Thats what I say about science classes, its meaningless.
i don't like science class any more cause i get a differnt science teacher evry time i have science and it's hard to rember who is who :-X
Actually, learning science really does apply to one's daily life. We would not know without biochemistry for example, that we shouldn't mix certain drugs and mix drugs with certain foods. If one did not know chemistry, then chances are, you'd need some luck with cooking,, as even cooking requires a basic knowledge of chemistry.
And how about physics? That applies when you're trying to buy a car and trying to find out which one has the best mileage. It also helps to know physics when you're out in the wild, you can use physics knowledge of heat to build a well-insulated shelter.
There are lots of ways you can apply science in daily life, people are simply a little ignorant and think science is boring. Hey, even the scientific method is useful when it comes to thinking about things in real life, like political events and an understanding of human behavior.
Quote from: Darkphantomime on January 18, 2007, 05:09:21 PM
Actually, learning science really does apply to one's daily life. We would not know without biochemistry for example, that we shouldn't mix certain drugs and mix drugs with certain foods. If one did not know chemistry, then chances are, you'd need some luck with cooking,, as even cooking requires a basic knowledge of chemistry.
And how about physics? That applies when you're trying to buy a car and trying to find out which one has the best mileage. It also helps to know physics when you're out in the wild, you can use physics knowledge of heat to build a well-insulated shelter.
There are lots of ways you can apply science in daily life, people are simply a little ignorant and think science is boring. Hey, even the scientific method is useful when it comes to thinking about things in real life, like political events and an understanding of human behavior.
Hmm well subjects like Political Science, Psychology, and Sociology are also called Social Sciences so I guess you can make that argument.
I'm going to blissfully ignore the science/religion argument here :D
The only science class I ever had a problem with was Meteorology! All those little triangle-dotted-dashed-lines and and circles and high-pressure, low-pressure nonsense drove me up the wall. I could never figure it out.
Biology, on the other hand, is where I'm a nerd. Literally, I mean, like lab assistant, taking inventories of vacuum-sealed dead rats on my off-time kind of bio nerd.
I liked physics, too. Once you understood the formulas and concepts, the math was sort of fun.
I love science, right now I'm in physical science and it rocks...we get to mix elemets and everything...
the only problem I have with evolution being taught is that they say thy can't say that one theory is exact. So yes, they say the Big Bang and evolution theories aren't the only ones, but they also dont mention a word of the Christian theories, so it's kinda still saying those are the true ones.
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on January 18, 2007, 09:02:28 PM
I love science, right now I'm in physical science and it rocks...we get to mix elemets and everything...
the only problem I have with evolution being taught is that they say thy can't say that one theory is exact. So yes, they say the Big Bang and evolution theories aren't the only ones, but they also dont mention a word of the Christian theories, so it's kinda still saying those are the true ones.
Well it is kinda illegal (most places) to do that because of the seperation of church and state. Now some Christian schools may do it but no public school will because it is illegal to discuss that.
I thought discussion evolution was illegal though...
Quote from: Wolf Link on January 18, 2007, 09:10:13 PM
I thought discussion evolution was illegal though...
No they teach it, heck in college I even took a class called Human Evolution. Which convinced me of it, even though I am a Cathloic, but I have also learned not to take what the Bible says literally alot of times.
All I know is that in trying to keep things fair for everyone, they aren't making it fair for Christians.
I don't believe in evolution, but Im learning it anyway.
yes, even if you don't believe in something, it's good to learn all about it. It's really hard to debate it if you don't know what it's about.
Hey bgrugby, seen how your good at science, you could help me if I ever needed some study time and don't understand a certain thing, lol.
Hahaha, NO. I hate science and never liked it (well except bio). Now if you ever need any help in Social Studies (i.e. history, geography, government, etc.) then I am your man (as I am probably more reliable then any Social Studies teacher you already have) but do not look at me for science.
Quote from: Darkphantomime on January 18, 2007, 05:09:21 PM
...And how about physics? That applies when you're trying to buy a car and trying to find out which one has the best mileage. It also helps to know physics when you're out in the wild, you can use physics knowledge of heat to build a well-insulated shelter...
Pfft, you only need to know the laws of physics so you can break them. :P
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 18, 2007, 10:05:20 PMPfft, you only need to know the laws of physics so you can break them. :P
As a matter of fact, I'm flying now!
and I"m lighting a fire in my fishbowl so they don't freeze.
Quote from: Wolf Link on January 18, 2007, 09:10:13 PM
I thought discussion evolution was illegal though...
You've got it backwards, Creationism is illegal in public schools.
is it called creationism? that sounds weird.....
But don't they teach "creationism" in Religious Studies/ Religious Education (R.S. and R.E)? Thats what happens in our school. In R.E. we learn how each religion believes the world came to be, then in Science we learn the Scientific theory/theories.
Well I think it all depends on the school. If the school is publicly funded and funded by the gov't they cannot discuss religious ideas. However private and parochial school can discuss that, as well as universities.
i don't really have any problems with science classes. actually my favorite class is science.. im kind of a science geek. lol.
Quote from: Pyrgusfinn on January 20, 2007, 07:07:01 PM
i don't really have any problems with science classes. actually my favorite class is science.. im kind of a science geek. lol.
She's right. I hate it. lol. I HATE BIOLOGY. But yea what can you do?
in science we're doing water ::)
heee....I love science. The only one I found slightly boring was Earth Science, but it was still better than English.