Jack says: I edited the list with the "really bad ones" remaining. These should not ever be used on the forums! (I've starred out vowels on the really awful ones I'm not ever comfortable seeing on these forums, ever in an instructional purpose.)
Okay, this is a list of words you are not allowed to use on the site EVER:
B*tch
F*ck
Bastard
Sh*t
Ass(hole)
Pussy
N*gger (and other horrible racial epithets)
F*gg*t
This will constantly be added onto by suggestions from mods and more experienced members. (Veterans)
Hmm... Let's see if Jack has any thoughts to add to this list. And let's not forget a word that starts with A and rhymes with Bass. And the variant with Hole.
Okay. Also, onviously, any follow-ups to the word (pissy or pissed is still piss) are not execpted either.
Somebody doesn't have to be a veteran to be able to have a good idea.
Okay, let me say something. Unless you got permission from Jack himself, you have no place to tell members what they can and cannot say. Of course those words are in common sense swear words, many of us dont consider "piss" a bad word. Also, did Jack omit "damn" and "hell"? Because I dont want the members getting comfortable saying that without Jack's hand in this. This topic is not to be taken seriously until further word from Jack. Thankyou Akatsuki, but we really should consult the Administrator before making big changes and announcements like this.
Jack admitted it with the original rules topic.
Also, Veterans, particularily ones that haven't caused trouble, usually come up with good ideas, while the newbies sometimes get confused with site rules. (I had to read them over for a few days before I realized what they were and their EXACT definition)
The only reason I made this was because several members were complaining about the lack of this list. It should be common sense what does and doesn't count as a cuss word, only damn and hell were said to be exceptions in some cases. Yes, piss is a cuss word. I really just wnated for every member to stop complaining about it even thouhg it should be in their knowledge already. Isn't that right, JQ? >:(
Seriously, it got over-annoying.
But that doesn't mean that they ALL will have that problem.
yes, I don't think I had any problems when I was new :-\ but if you have talked to Jack, I think it should be okay...I wish he would post himself so we can be sure though...also, what about...erm...the word that starts with a p and rhymes with wussy?
I know, but NOT all do not.
Also, Shika, I forgot that one.
I did not talk to Jack, but, ZV, these are all sure fire words that are banned.
I'm new and I don't think I have any issues... ??? ...unless I'm mistaken. :-X
Oh, I'm very happy !SOMEBODY! understands. :)
What about slurs? You know like the N-word and whatnot?
Wow...I never had a problem with prohibiting profanity...but just seeing a list of words that I can't ever use...it's just frightening...slowly evolving into a world where freedom is defined by the government man...which is already a reality...but it's a relatively okay definition.
Quote from: Akatsuki on March 08, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
Oh, I'm very happy !SOMEBODY! understands. :)
Were you refering to me...? I was talking about the veteran suggestion thing. :-\
can i say hell or crap
Hell only in religious purposes, and crap doesn't actually count as a cuss word. But yes, PISS does.
Funny how you keep mentioning p155 when I haven't said anything about it at all in this topic...
Some people don't count it as a cuss word, but in TDC it is.
I'm sorry, but until Jack says so himself, we cannot make it an official rule. If somebody says "piss" you can't warn. A rule has to be made official by the admin. And that doesent mean that everyone should go completely nuts with using it.
I would hope we would have the moral guidelines to not do that.
ZV, these are all words that are definetly either cuss and/or insults, you should know these are clear cut words that are banned.
Also, I think what I said may have confused, so by ban I mean "use these and you get a warning".
I was against this from the beginning, members should know this by now. How should I put how terrible the annoyances were...
THEY ANNOYED THE H*** OUT OF ME!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Sorry, but seriously, they should've known by now what words are insulting or cuss words. And they got over-annoying. WAY too much.
No need to get all whiny. It's just that I don't know anyone who considers 'piss' a curse word. The problem is people consider different words offensive. So I'm gonna go with the crowd here and say we should wait for what Jack has to say.
I've heard Darth Wyndisis use the word "piss" several times without warning.
Really? I haven't. Mabye I just never read his posts becuase of his innactiveness.
I'll remove it for now and ask Jack on whether or not it counts as a cuss word. JQ's warning still stays because he used it in a way to clearly target me.
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on March 09, 2007, 04:07:17 PM
No need to get all whiny. It's just that I don't know anyone who considers 'piss' a curse word. The problem is people consider different words offensive. So I'm gonna go with the crowd here and say we should wait for what Jack has to say.
I haven't either, Akatsuki, you are the only person I know who considers piss a curse... It means pee, seems kind of immature to consider it a cuss, like when I was little peole used to say "shut up" was a cuss.
I think he means piss as in...
'piss off' and then a person usually adds a little bit more to spice it up...it can be considered one...but I agree, it's hardly a cuss word.
Frankly, this whole list is quite inappropriate. This has got to be the first time I have ever seen a forum actually post words that cannot be used.
It is common sense what you can say and what you cannot say. The rule should simply be "If you think it could be profanity...IT IS!" I would say use the language you use in school, but I see alot of kids who swear in school without reservation (and I have no problem giving them a detention or suspending them). It is not that hard to use proper language on here. I probably swear more then anyone else on here in real life but it is easy to use "appropriate" words. And listing them will only lead to problems, especially the N-word which could lead to alot of anger and controversy. And if a kid is on here and a parent sees this list, that will only lead to problems.
You do not need a list, AGAIN IF YOU THINK IT IS INAPPROPRIATE...IT IS!!! Simple as that and if you break it you get a warning, no big deal but you know not to use it again. But having a list is ridiculous.
Now I know some kids think it is cool to swear, heck I used to think that when I was young but in reality you look like an idiot or an immature punk when you swear, so if that is how you want to be viewed, go ahead and swear, get a warning and lose alot of respect from members on the forum. Because it doesn't make you look cool to swear, only makes you look like an idiot.
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on March 09, 2007, 04:07:17 PM
It's just that I don't know anyone who considers 'piss' a curse word.
I consider it to be a curse. I guess that makes me #2 (or #3), huh? :P
Still, regarding what Jack said about swearing, I think he said that he'd accept
damn and
hell, but any other would be inappropriate.
But I'm not sure. I need to check that topic again.
Yeah, Akatsuki, this probably wasn't a good idea. I agree with bgrugby (well the gist of it anyway, not the "swerng is teh ebil!!11!1" part) in that listing them could bring in some bad juju.
Guys, this topic should never have been started. It's common sense; anybody with even the slightest amount of dignity should realize that certain words cannot be said.
So, considereing I've been here rather long compared to many others, I say that this was almost never a problem, not really. I mean, I have never come on here and seen a member get more than 3 warning for cussing. So, I think this whole idea is stupid, but if you want, we can wait for Jack and see what he has to say.
Yeah, a list is a little over the top, especially for something so subjective. What BG said... common sense. If you don't think you would hear it in a PG (or lower) rated film, you probably shouldn't use it here.
Wow, I feel like I'm the bad guy here. I only put this here because SOME members don't have enough common sense to realize what words aren't cuss words or not. Blame them, not me.
Well, I'm locking this. I'm not deleteing it, but I suggest Akatsuki does. Its common sense that some words are bad, but then again, some words arent as bad to others as they are to us. So we just have to ask them to use approprate language upon their better judgement. (slams the gravel) Case closed, or at least until further word from Jack.
I'll delete this is 30 minutes, but I want to get this clear:
I didn't even want to make this topic, because members should know what is and isn't appropriate. Of course, though, some don't and complained about the lack of this list. This never would have happened if they had the common sense to know what words are considered 'cuss words'. This pretty much means things you won't see in PG and G movies. Yes, this includes piss! I never even wanted this to begin with, but I got tired of them complaining.
This could also be seen as a warning to them: from now on, you won't have a list of words that you can rely on. Now you have to use your own judgement.
I am terribly sorry this whole thing came up in the first place, but let me remind you: THIS IS NOT MY IDEA!
I've edited the list with my authoritative one. Thanks for your hard work, Akatsuki, but please remember that any mod action should spring from consensus among your peers. :)
Thanks for clearing this all up Jack. Glad to have you back once in a century. ::)
Also, notice that "Piss" was not included on the list. That concludes this.