Well, it's been about a year since KHII was released in the U.S., and much speculation and wonder has come out of the KH storyline, especially after KH fans saw and pondered on the secret trailer at the end of KHII.
There are two things I want to know: (1) do you have any ideas of what's going on with the little information that Square Enix is giving us, and (2) what worlds would you like to have in the next game?
Right now I have no real opinion on how things play out... I'm hoping they continue with Organization XIII, as those characters were way too dynamic to play such short roles.
Worlds I want to See:
-The Jungle Book
-Great Mouse Detective
-Peter Pan (the island, not just a ship)
-Hollow Bastion (a staple)
What I Really Want to see is...
-The Tantalus Troupe (Zidane, Marcus, Cinna, Blank) - FFIX
-Ivan - FFVIII
-Barrett - FFVIII
And I'd like all the characters full developed and not just thrown in every so often.
Although, they'd probably butcher my beloved Tantalus Troupe >_>
blank, you forgot the most important world, the Narnia world, and bridge to terribitha(or however its spelled) I think those two will be in, and some others.
Yeah, WT, those worlds would be FINE additions to KHIII. Plus, they used live-action worlds before (*coughTRONANDPIRATESOFTHECARIBBEANcough*), and Square Enix can certainly put more in. Those are the two worlds that I would MOST love to see in KHIII.
On the other hand, I would love to see more FF worlds. Unfortunately, Square Enix just has to consider FF characters to be the "guests" of the series. It would just be so RETRO to see beloved Disney characters in heart-poundingly epic FF worlds, not just original worlds like Traverse Town and Twilight Town.
Anyway, a Keyblade War seems to be an infinitely fascinating concept. I would love to see what Square Enix will do with it.
Kingdom Hearts 3, huh? Well, I would really like to see (in terms of worlds):
-Bambi (that'd be a wide landscape, you know you want it)
-Probably more of the Lion King (the other one felt to restricted)
-Aristocats (yes, you would play as a cat in France :P)
-Lilo and Stitch (play here would be really cool)
I'd like to see an Aristocat level, that would be fun. I'm not so sure about the Bambi idea, though.
There is always the possibility of no longer having smaller, disney-themed worlds; and instead have one large one.
Quote from: Blank on March 12, 2007, 08:27:33 PM
Right now I have no real opinion on how things play out... I'm hoping they continue with Organization XIII, as those characters were way too dynamic to play such short roles.
I'd just like to point out that all members of Organization XIII are dead. And bringing them back to life would be pretty cheap, in my opinion.
I agree. Sora and company exterminated all 13 of them along with their nobody accomplices. It's time they die, already!
Yeah, and you can't forget that Organization XIII was in two of the three KH games, even if all of them weren't included simultaneously. Their time is most likely up unless Square Enix makes a loophole in the story that has new enemies form whenever Nobodies are eliminated.
What I really want to know, though, is what the Chasers are. I read online somewhere that the three soldiers shown in "Sunset Horizons" are indeed Chasers.
Any ideas of what they really are?
I think it will have Riku Sora and Kairi together, because it shows two guys and a girl with keyblades, right? I'm just going off what my cousin said about the movie, I haven't seen it myself. Then all the keyblades around them, I think it definitely means a lot of keyblade users. and wasn't there another roman numeral that kept showing up? I think my cousin said there was an X, so maybe an organization of ten keyblade users or something...
If the three are in the game, then yes, they have to be reunited if the fourth game starts where the third left off.
However, those three soldiers have been confirmed to be NOT Sora, Riku, and Kairi. It's an interesting theory, though, but I believe that Nomura said that they weren't said three.
huh. well I haven't seen what they looked like, my cousin just said two guys and a girl.
Still, don't get me wrong. It's an interesting theory. In fact, I think I believed it at one point before finding out that it wasn't true.
You know a world that would be very interesting? Fantasia 2000....
Fabatasia? That' s amusic movie. How would they make a world out of that?
Square Enix did that with the Chernabog boss in World Terminus in the first game. Plus, don't forget Yen Sid's tower and Yen Sid himself in KHII. ;)
If there are epic threats in F2 (I don't know; I haven't seen it), then we can safely assume that Square Enix will put them in, in the future.
They made a world out of Steamboat Willie. It wouldn't be too hard.
I think they should bring back Hollow Bastion. Seems as if there was some unfinished business there with the Heartless, and Maleficent.
plus it is just a kick-butt place. and there still is hollow bastion, that's like the main town now. Just because it's called radiant garden now...I rented kingdom Hearts two again and I'm busting my thumbs trying to get 100% so I can see that movie...
as for the epic threat thing, there doesn't always have to be one. 100 acre wood didn't seem like a place that would be threatened, but they made it happen.
What if they did the Santa Clause?
I can only imagine:
Sora, Donald, and Goofy would be bustin' it out on the Heartless and the life-sized toys brought to life by the Fake Santa. Yeah, I'm thinking about The Santa Clause 2; for the time being, that seems the most ideal for a world.
I'm still holding true to Bridge to Terabithia being a KHIII world, though, and my thoughts bent on it are still going strong! You can imagine that, too: instead of imagined enemies appearing and attacking, Heartless would actually appear and attack the group. Toward the end, fighting the Dark Master (who would also appear as a Heartless or other enemy) would just be so SICK! I mean, bustin' out the Keyblade on that guy... Gah, I could just about die with excitement thinking about it. :D
With that in mind, it would also be awesome to have Jess and Leslie as allies (however, it would be nice for Square Enix to fix the problem of allies using up items like they were going out of style). Jess would probably focus more on physical attacks (judging by his very brief gauntlet usage in the movie), and Leslie could probably focus more on magic usage, as her mind is vivid and fantastic.
You may now laugh at me practically begging for my dream world in KHIII. If you don't feel like it, here's a thought for you: I made two screenshots--one being in my signature, and one one with the KH HUD--and I have my own Keyblade design for that world. Maybe THAT will make you laugh at me! :P
dude, I don't care that you have an obsession with KH, it's just like my cousin's Metroid addiction and my Sonic and Megaman addictions, though they have been disappointing me lately...SA2B is fun though, and Megaman Anniversary collection has all the classics...
anyways, I am interested in seeing that keyblade design. What about Chicken Little's world? His summoning in number 2 shows you how good of an ally he could be...You could fight off the aliens because the Heartless are corrupting them, but at the end the Heartless leader is destroyed and you find out the aliens aren't evil, just corrupted. Your keyblade could be a rubber chicken ;D
A rubber chicken, huh? :P Wow, just wow...
Anyway, if I had to make another world, I'd say Toy Story should be one. There are like 100 plcaes you can go. And I want Buzz as my ally too! :D
What kind of keyblade for that though...? Maybe like Bo Peep's stick or something...
Or maybe a KeyBlade with a wooden block on the end, like those ones with the alphabet on them.
haha, it could be made up of blocks saying OWNED!
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on March 18, 2007, 04:27:59 PM
Your keyblade could be a rubber chicken ;D
LOL! Excellent idea, SN! Excellent idea! The Keyblade's tooth could be the crest of a rooster! :P
You said you wanted to see the Keyblade design? Here it is. (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/MagmarFire/BondofFriendshipKeyblade.jpg) I'm sorry that the quality isn't all that great; I don't have a scanner, so I was stuck to using my digital camera, which is kind of a piece of crap. But hey, it works! I call it the Bond of Friendship Keyblade (I was making a pass at a major focal point in the story), and its description is, "An unbreakable bond that increases attack, magic, and the amount of time spent for Limits."
Eh, for the heck of it, I'll link to my other screenshot (http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/MagmarFire/KHIIIWorld--Terabithia-1.jpg) as well. (Man, I love Photoshop! :D )
Anyway, Buzz Lightyear would be so sweet as an ally. I would love to see what they can do with his laser effects. With his Limit, Sora and Buzz could fly around and zap all enemies in sight. It would be great! :D
The "OWNED" idea is a good idea also, SN. A both funny and totally fitting idea. Where do you get this stuff? :D
You should make one with Link holding the keyblade, if you can, lol. That would be sweet, Link with the master sword and with the keyblade! Ganon wouldn't stand a chance!
ah, if only Zelda and KH were owned by the same company....possibilities, possibilities...and where do I get my ideas? I am very creative I guess. Just comes naturally. I once wrote a Michael Jackson song in 7th grade since I was angry he got off the hook on the trial and made some money selling it.
I would really like Axel to make a return if by some twist possible...he is possibly my favorite character...
Axel is pretty cool. Very enigmatic, that one. He has a backstory and a past that I would really like to hear about...
WHICH has just given rise to a new idea for me! What if they allowed you to play as Axel at some point in KH3, like they did with Roxas in KH2? How crazy would that be! :D
That would be awesome, concidering he does have a very interesting story behind him...
Axel's dead and should stay dead. Like I said, bringing back any Organization XIII member would be pretty cheap.
You just don't know how to be fun!
Can you explain to me how they could reasonably bring Axel back without it sounding stupid?
You really have to be careful about resurrecting characters because it could end up sounding really idiotic.
Yeah, I'm with CA on this one. Axel's done his job in the KH storyline; plus, you have to remember that he's been in two of the three games. The MOST that Square will probably do is have him in flashback sequences. Any other way would indeed be "cheap," as CA calls it.
What, you've never heard that expression before?
No, it's not that. I guess it's just an expression that I don't really use that often. Other than that, it was just an indirect quote. (I believe that's what it's called.)
It is possible. We thought Malificent was dead. I thought Goofy was dead for a while ;)welllll not really but I made Scotty think he was :P they could do a part where he goes back in time, he does need new territory after all. Or they could make a seperate game about Axel's past, like DoC with Vincent Valentine...speaking of which, I want to see Vincent in the next game...
after school today me and Joe were standing there talking about naruto and then I pulled out my house keys and said I was the keyblade master then we said there should be a level where your keyblade is house keys...
I really wanna go back to Destiny Islands. The first game lacked something, it was as if the island was, say, too small... i really wanna go back there, just to check it out.
Not to mention the island was nearly destroyed...
Excellent point.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next game started where Sora and the gang left off. I mean, it's happened before, so it can happen again.
If I remember correctly, Sora and Riku are in the dark realm or something like that, right? Sorry, it's been awhile since I beat the game.
No, they're back at Destiny Islands with Kairi. And the last thing we see is them getting some really important letter from King Mickey.
oh okay, I remember now...Probably Mickey has found something and they have to go stop it...typical storyline idea no?
Hey, you never know. Remember, we hardly know anything about the next game, so it's not entirely wise to just jump to conclusions.
Then again, they DID have worried looks on their faces when they read the letter, so it's quite possible...
Well, to my conclusion, its going to be a very good game, if they go through with it that is...
They are making it. No question.
I think that, in the third installment, the Heartless will have less to do with the game than before, and the enemy will be something new. Just like the Nobodies were new to KH2.
yeah, I wonder what that enemy would be...
It could be the Chasers. Or it could be some totally different enemy. I don't know.
There very well could be a new enemy when you look at KHII. In the mansion where Roxas drew an emblem in the library to unlock the basement, the emblem he drew was grouped with two other emblems: the Heartless emblem and the Nobody emblem. I'm guessing that the emblem he drew could be closely related to a new possible enemy.
Thinks...good point maggy... But I'm not really familar with the chasers...
We really don't now what the Chasers are, JDog. They were mentioned in the trailer for KH3, but we didnt have any clue what they were or what any of it meant.
Well, I haven't seen the trailer for it yet... so yeah...
I saw it a little bit ago...hmm...it's gonna be strange without Sora and them...
Wait wait wait whoa whoa whoa, sora and the gang isn't gonna be in it? :o
We don't know yet. I sincerely doubt it, though. I think the least that Square is going to do is start the game with the new characters (considering that they're playable) and switch character perspective later on to Sora, like they did with Roxas in KHII.
SN's suggestion IS a possibility, but that's all that we can call it right now. We can't say for sure. Don't get me wrong, though; it is quite a strong theory.
Chances are, like 90%, I'd say, that the game will not start in the perspective of Sora. It will most likely start in the perspective of someone else. Maybe a chaser...? :-\
I wonder if it'll start out with a story of axel or something like that. maybe even micky him self! nah, I don't think that would happen.
Definitely not Axel...unless it were some kind of flashback or something. He's dead, remember?
Regarding King Mickey, however, this theory is more likely. He did send the letter, after all.
what if those three were the chasers? They were researching keyblades it seemed...maybe they wre after Mickey's?
From what I saw, it looked as if they were after Mickey's, Sora's and Riku's Keyblades. But I don't think they were going to research them. Thier outfits kinda disprove that theory.
What greatly interests me, though, is that giant Keyblade that that one soldier had.
By the way, I heard somewhere that the three soldiers in the trailer were indeed Chasers; however, it may be wrong because I read it on a forum. The guy didn't cite his source--if he even had one--so we can't say that for sure either.
Anyway, back to the giant Keyblade. If you looked at it fairly closely, you'll notice that it does not have a keychain at all. This leads me to believe that that design is the Keyblade's true form. With that in mind, Sora's Keyblade, the Kingdom Key, might not be the Keyblade's actual form.
So... Does that theory receive support or rejection? ;)
It could be a weapon they created.
I don't know. Did the Dark Keyblade that Riku/Xehanort used in the first game have a keychain? It could be something like that. There seem to be a lot of different types of Keyblades.
Which also leads us into many possible theories about why the words "Keyblade War" flashed across the screen. There could be something epic brewing up in the Kingdom Hearts world.
I just simply LOVE the idea about a Keyblade War. I really hope that Square goes through with it without making it a total anti-climax. ;)
However, regarding what CA said, I don't remember seeing a keychain on the Dark Keyblade, either. However, we do have to remember that it was formed from the Seven Princesses' hearts (or something along that line), so maybe that was the reason it didn't have a keychain. Still, maybe that's NOT the reason...
That giant Keyblade that the soldier was holding may have similar origins as the Dark Keyblade if we go with both of our theories simultaneously. Maybe instead of hearts being used to create it, some other part to an individual was used. A soul, maybe?
It is made of toenails. Tough stuff.
If it was made fo souls, or something else, that brings us back to MagmarFire's point earlier. He said that there were 3 symbols as Roxas drew in the Nobody sign in the Old Mansion Library. That third sign may very well mean something.
Actually, what Roxas drew was the third emblem. The Heartless and Nobody emblem were already there when he entered the library.
So then, perhaps that third emblem he had drawn is what is intended for the series in the future. Who knows? Maybe that's the symbol of the Cahsers or somethin'.
I think it actually just symbolized that you would have to fight both enemies..but then again no one really knows.
Another fight with two foes? Man, didn't we have enough of that up against the Nobodies and the Heartless?
Wouldn't it be more like three foes? ;D
*POints at CA* Kids got a point, it would be three foes if the Nobodies were still around.
but would they be? The source of them, Organization XII, has been wiped out...
It is highly unlikely. But then again we though Maleficent was dead as well, and she returned without warnin. Whose to say the Nobodies arent still around?
Organization XIII wasn't the source of them. I thought every time a Heartless was formed a Nobody was also formed; Organization XIII just happened to have control of them, or something. So if the Heartless are still running around there's bound to be Nobodies too...but broken and leaderless.
renegade nobodies....that could get dangerous...
Quote from: Commodore Axilon on March 31, 2007, 10:43:03 AM
Organization XIII wasn't the source of them. I thought every time a Heartless was formed a Nobody was also formed; Organization XIII just happened to have control of them, or something. So if the Heartless are still running around there's bound to be Nobodies too...but broken and leaderless.
I agree with most of your points, CA, but a Nobody isn't formed EVERY time a Heartless is created. I think I heard that during the rare instance when a strong-hearted person becomes a Heartless, a Nobody's created, too
Still, if there aren't going to be new enemies, perhaps the word "Chasers" refers to the Heartless of Ansem the Wise's apprentices, whereas Organization XIII consisted of his apprentices' Nobodies.
And yes, SN. That may be a pickle for Sora and the gang. Who knows what masterless Nobodies are capable of?
Yeah, I think you're right. But it's really not that much of a problem. There seemed to be more than enough Nobodies during the game. Enough that they even fielded there very own armada, with spaceships and everything. :o
Apparently there are a lot of strong-hearted people in the Kingdom Hearts-verse. ;D
seeing as how it includes every world...
But, despite the fact that a Nobody is formed after a Heartless is formed, i still think they're pretty much gone. There base of operations was pretty much destroyed, utterly beyond repair.
I hope not. I like the Nobodies a lot more than the Heartless. Cold, calculating killing machines as opposed to mindless monsters.
And I'm pretty sure not all of the Nobodies were at The World That Never Was when that sh*t went down.
But what if there are no heartless or nobodies?? What if its a completely new enemy. I was watching a new video and it didn't show any heartless or nobodies, just the chasers and a guy who somewhat looks like Ansen
That was the video at the ending of KH2, wasn't it? The hidden one?
I'm talking about the video from kh2 final mix. Its a completely new one
then I shall check that out, and put a link when I find it.
EDIT: here's the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wtQ_72JwIE
i have the link
http://www.kh2.co.uk/
there's no sound but its really cool. Its the first movie and above it there should be a link to a translated version but the quality is bad
well mine is perfect quality :Dbeat that.
Well you see Roxas...so he is in it, and also Mickey is seen...so it's in the same time frame...There is a girl whose face looks remarkably like Kairi's...and you see Kingdom Hearts. So there will be heartless.
But no Sora or Riku. Well yours might be perfect quality but its not translated, so there
yours still sucks, you admitted it. and weren't Sora, Riku, and Kairi stuck in the dark realm or something? So maybe this war is the result of the keyblade master's disappearance...
No they were on Destiny Island reading Mickey's letter. But you never know.
weren't Destiny islands in the dark realm though? Because I remember after beating Xehanort Riku and Sora were lying on teh beach and it was covered in black and they were talking about where to go.
yes but then the door to light opened and they ended up on Destiny Island. But either way I'm excited for kh3
okay. I think it is Sora, Riku and Kairi. The guy who removes his helmet could be an older Sora, just he has helmet hair and the wind is blowing it back. Your hair isn't gonna be spiky anymore if you fought in a sweaty, tight-fitting helmet. and Kairi could dye her hair when she's older. and if Sora was indeed the helmeted guy, then he could have gone to Ansem's side, because his eyes are yellow like Ansems, and like Riku's when riku embraced the darkness.
According to Tetsuya Nomura, the characters in the trailer are totally new characters in the KH series. Interesting theory, but it's unfortunately been disproven. (I think I supported that theory at one point, actually.)
but they look so much alike...and MIckey is there, so it couldn't have been long after KH2...wait a second...birth by sleep...maybe this is an alternate world, and the bad guy has the real world in some kind of deep sleep or something...
That's interesting. Though you have to admit the guy does look a lot like roxas even if its not him.
They have to at least be related, but there hasn't been time for them to have kids or anything, that's why I think the alternate dimension thing is likely...or maybe they are just at a certain part in the game and then you use Sora and stuff again...which I really hope, a game just doesn't seem right without the trio...
Possibly. Or maybe the whole world (or dilemma) was caused because of some kind of slumber.
Regarding the soldiers, perhaps they are the Chasers of Sora, Riku, and Kairi. Typically, the soldiers are new characters, but why would there be a brief moment of Sora's face showing while one of the soldiers was being frozen? Maybe Square's taking another Roxas approach--Roxas being a new character but being Sora's Nobody. All of this COULD be the reason why they look so much alike.
I remember hearing the creater say that its in the future.... I might be wrong though...
There is...a possibility...what if those three were nobodies...and Roxas was one and was killed..it showed King Mickey watching at the end, maybe that was what the letter was about at the end...
that would be really interesting. OOO I can't wait for it to come out... Do you think it will come out on the ps3??
yes, unfortunately... 8)I mean, we're looking at at least another year, right? No way they will even be SELLING PS2s that late, they are in it for profit...
Anybody have any theories as to the identity of that old dude who kicked their *sses? I think he has something to do with Ansem/Xehanort/Xemnas, myself.
I think he does. He kinda looks like Ansem
based on the yellow eyes and his summoning of Kingdom Hearts, I would say that there is definitely a connection. still, nothing's sure. Than his clone who transformed into those clothes that looked remarkably like Dark Riku's...
alternate dimension
I want to know who he is. Does anyone know about any Prophecies?? Cause a friend was talking about them and they involved the "keybalde Master"
I say he is alternate dimension Ansem, and the clone guy that comes out represents Riku when Riku was evil and in the suit.
why do you think its an alternate dimension???
birth by sleep...something was created because of something else's dormancy...plus you see all these people who resemble major characters but aren't the characters themselves...maybe in this dimension Xemnas wins?
I guess its possible
you have something better? >:(I thought so. Now be quiet, Mommy and Daddy are talking.
um....... ok..... Like I said I think it's in the future
then why is Mickey still there? If Sora nd them are dead, there is no way Mickey would be alive seein gas how he was older than them, much older.
I'll happily go with your Nobody theory, SN. The frozen soldier had a HUGE resemblance to Roxas. For that to be true, though, something must have happened to force Roxas to ditch the Organization (which he does) and fight in that world. Still, assuming that "Roxas" (I'll refer to the frozen soldier as "Roxas") was frozen--and possibly killed--how COULD he have fused with Sora at the end of KHII? Perhaps that IS an alternate dimension--a dimension where Roxas never joined Organization XIII and died honorably (?) in the battle in the trailer.
If your theory is true, my other theory would DEFINITELY be looked down upon in shame; none of the soldiers look a THING like Namine. :P
I'd like to note, though, that one of the soldiers had an uncanny resemblance to Leon. I wonder... Maybe that battle has something to do with Squall keeping an alias of "Leon" until the Heartless are destroyed? :-\
except he is using a keyblade, and I don't think the keyblade masters would be any different. also he had those yellow evil eyes like Ansem...maybe in that dimension Sora embraced the darkness like Riku did.
in the subbed version it said that "all the fates have been sent" What do you think that means??
All the fates have been set....the fates of the people in the real world as well as the alternate dimension were set?
maybe and then after that it says "after a long time each fate will await the awakening of a new tale." I'm starting to go with your alternate dimension theory now
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ha ha.... very funny. Though what do you think about the last part?? the awaking of a new tale??
new world, new story...makes sense, doesn't it? They have to right everything that went wrong in this dimension...
I guess that makes sense. I still want to know who the new people are though.
either alternates of characters we already know, Nobodies, or Chasers...
yeah... though I still hope Sora and Riku are in it,.. even if they're not main charecters
Sora's going to be in it. he has to. I mean, Mickey was there, and they got the letter at the end of number two...
You never know. Just because Mickey's in it doesn't mean Sora is
I mean the time frame is the same, it has to be close to the last game. plus MIckey sent them that letter, they just have to be there...
I kmpow you guys are having a nice discussion here, and that's all good. But you have convo posted for almost 3 pages. :P
I'll break it: KH3 is gonna rock.
yes it is. and in the rules it says convo posting is only spam if it goes off topic, I checked after the last time it happened to me, even though we stayed on topic and it was dragged over two weeks....
anyways, do they have a release date fr KH3 yet?
kh3 is going to rock no matter who's in it. I hope its gonna come out next year if we're lucky
the graphics are amazing...unfortunately that's just another hint that it will be a PS3 title...there's no way they will let me spend 600+ dollars for it...
What graphics? There are screenshots already?
go to the trailer I posted earlier...very amazing...
okay here, I backtracked and copied it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wtQ_72JwIE
You mean the KH2 Final Mix ending movie? 'Cause that's not a trailer. Remember the ending movies for the original Kingdom Hearts? Kingdom Hearts II was no where near the quality of those movies.
The cutscenes were though, and the game graphics were pretty darn good.
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOz9mgs5-mI) is the KH+ ending movie. Now tell me again how that looked like KH2?
the cinematics were like that.
The cinematics in KH2 were only similiar to those in the KH3 trailer at the begininng and end of the game (in terms of graphics, anyway).
yeah, that's what I refer to as cinematics. The ones during the game I call scenes...Don't know why, that's just how I note the differences...
As long as they interrupt gameplay, I refer to those as cutscenes and cinematics interchangeably, except for the cutscenes that have only text dialogue. I don't really refer to those as cinematics.
Anyway, I think we're straying off-topic a little bit here. Let's speculate some more and give more wishlists before I get withdrawal symptoms! :P
Forms. Do you think they will return?
If Sora is still the main playable character, most likely. If Square decides to put Drives back in, I hope Valor Form is one of them still.
What I wouldn't give to fight the White Witch with Valor Form Sora... Dual swords against two Keyblades. I think we know who would win. ;)
the witch of course. Her little dwarf guy would sneak up behind him and klang him on the back of the head and then she would turn him to stone..
Wow, that's anticlimactic. :P
The Witch would be TOAST! Besides, wasn't her wand destroyed BEFORE she started fighting with dual swords? I doubt she would be able to turn Sora to stone after THAT! :D
Another worlds wish: more FF worlds. I don't even care if I already mentioned this before; I WANT A FINAL FANTASY WORLD!
But the action takes place in many places spread out from each other. I can't think of one place where there would be enough action...well maybe at the Crater, they hunted down Sephiroth or something.
Actually, to be truthful, I don't wanna see Sephiroth in the next Kingdom Herats game. He's like a bug, he just seems to be something minor and small thrown in there to pester Cloud. I would rather him stick in FF games only.
I think it would be good if he were actually part of the story though. Like not optional, but maybe at the destruction of Nibelheim.
FF7 SPOILER ALERT!!!
That would be fun to play, and you would have to work with Zack to rescue Tifa....and if this is alternate dimension, maybe Sephiroth could be good and instead the heartless are destroying Nibelheim while he tries to protect it. Then he finds the library afterwards and discovers the truth and goes evil like in the game...
FF7 SPOILER END!!!
Yes, that would be very cool!
POSSIBLE FFVII SPOILER WARNING!
When he sees Sephiroth, Sora will be all like, "What the heck!? Sephiroth not being evil!? Okay, where are we, and what kind of twisted dimension is this!?" :P :P :P
Very nice idea, SN! At the end of the world, you could fight Sephiroth as the boss...but that would be quite repetitive, for Sora already fought him in the KH series twice, although he doesn't seem to recall fighting him in the first KH. Again, very nice idea, SN! :D
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I know. I'm just that freakin' awesome.
:P Excellent answer! ;D
It would probably be cool if Ultimecia were an optional boss. It would be even COOLER if you could use Drives against her. :D
Ultimecia? Who's that?
I may be wrong, but I think she's the main antagonist for FFVIII. It would be nice to have a very hard optional boss that DOESN'T completely drain MP and all but one HP in one attack. :-*
I agree. After all, the Sephiroth in KH1 was wayyyy to powerful, and it was almost ludicrous to even try and stand up against him.
but you have to admit the fight was fun.
No, it wasn't, because I never did beat the Sephiroth of KH1. :P
Heh, I was, like, on LV96 before I could finally beat him. Heck, I had to resort to a tipsheet for advice to beat him! :P
I'm on level 99 and I can't beat him!! :P
I'm at 78 and I got him down to his last bar...
well, that's just great for you, isn't it? >:( :P
Seriosuly, i think they shoulda made him easier, like so normal humans can beat him and not just mutants like Maggy ;)
It gives you something to be proud of when you accomplish it though, doesn't it? Not everyone can say they've done it.
I beat him at level 97, and found it to be quite easy actually. KH2 Sephy was much harder.
Are you serious? I beat KH2 Sephiroth in one try...
I took of two bars at level 50 lol
My point. The Seph of KH2 was a total wuss compared to the Seph of KH1.
Yeah, well you couldn't beat KH1 Sephiroth. So there! >:(
Though, to be fair. I was only at lvl70. If that helps.
All right, I think we're getting off-topic again. Let's get back, shall we? ;)
All right, all I can say about this trailer is that I was like O_O when I was done watching it. It's freakin' amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vQrq-41bYM
Oh, yeah! I LOVE that trailer! :D
What's strange, though, is the text at the very end that says, "A new story awaits the awakening--" You don't think that kind of answers the "birth by sleep" speculation, do you? :-\
Yeah, posted six pages ago. But it's still awesome. ;D
I especially like the guy in the Heartless armor. I wonder what's the deal with him?
Edit: Wa wa wee wa! Two friggin' seconds apart.
And I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to say there, MagmarFire. Could you please explain to this clueless plebeian?
Okay. Well, there has been speculation going around about what "it all began with birth by sleep" means. Some people think that it may mean that all that's going to go on in KHIII may have something to do with Sora's year-long slumber. That leads to a plethora of different possibilities that go around about what that sentence actually means.
Now we come across "a new story awaits the awakening." Maybe that means that someone must "awaken" as a hero or something, and the story will continue (or a new one will start) when that happens.
Or, perhaps, on a greater twist, maybe Sora never did wake up, and maybe he is still sleeping. Though I find that highly unlikely.
Personally, I think you guys are over-analyzing the sentence. I think maybe it means a new hero will awaken. That's all.
Hey, I'm an overanalyst. It's what I do. ;)
But I guess you're right about the "a new hero will awaken" part.
But who is the hero?
And correct me if I'm wroing, but I swear I saw someone in that video that looked alot like Roxas.
The dude who got frozen? 'Cause I thought he looked a lot like Roxas.
Yeah, him. I coulda sworn that he was Roxas, but then how would that make sense? :-\
I don't know. Do we know what happened with Roxas before he joined Organization XIII? I haven't played CoM, so that might actually answer my question. But I think it'd be interesting if this happened while Sora was asleep (or maybe even before) but before he joined Org. XIII.
Edit: I don't actually know when Roxas joined them. Was it before/during/after CoM?
Actually, CoM never did answer what had happened to Roxas before, during, or after he joined the Organization. In fact, he wasn't even in CoM.
What we do know is that he joined the Organization before CoM.
Well that kinda rules out my theory, doesn't it? ;D
But there still is the problem of that guy looking almost exactly like Roxas. Weird.
I know. Very weird, isn't it? ;D
I don't think that really is Roxas, though, because Tetsuya Nomura said that the three characters that appeared in the secret trailer at the end of KHII were completely new to the series. He even said that he started thinking up names for them, so I doubt he'd change Roxas's name. :P
Kid's gotta good point. I don't think changing Roxas' name would be a very good idea. :P
Maybe that character wasn't meant to be like Roxas. Maybe it was just planted like that as a startegic move by Square.
Probably. However, I DO think that he has a connection to Roxas somehow.
In addition to him not being Roxas, you may notice that the "Roxas" in the trailer is left-handed. In the series, Roxas is right-handed.
alternate dimension
I still think this could be some kind of rift created during Sora's slumber...
Perhapsm this mystery character is an extension of Sora like Roxas was, like how Roxas was Sora's nobody.
You never know, really...
It's very possible, though. He DOES bear an extremely strong resemblance to Roxas... Is this one big coincidence, or am I missing something? :-\
I believe that us, as a whole, are missing something... Square Enix seems to be pulling the wool over our eyes about a major Kingdom Herats secret.
A Heartless and Nobody are created when a person..hey...maybe Sora is Roxas' nobody in that dimension...or something...I'm confused...
I've been working on this new theory. So a Heartless is created when a persons hear is consumed by Darkness. This leaves behind and empty shell, which is then turned into a Nobody. So we got a Heartless and a Nobody, and that's two symbols. And then we come back to that thrid symobl. What if, perhaps, that third symbol represented a third entity, a "soul" or something.. maybe that boy is a third entity steming from Sora.
Possibly, and that is why I think that there's some kind of connection between the two.
If the "Roxas" is a Chaser, and if a Chaser is a new entity formed by darkness, perhaps a Chaser is formed when the soul half and the body half of a Nobody part ways.
And maybe if they're formed, they're "born" in much the same way a Nobody is formed, but in an alternate dimension.
KH and FF look good. But I don't have the systems for 'em. :-* Anyhoo, I'll go now. Just ignore this post if you want.
I was under the impression that Nobodies didn't have souls, MagmarFire. Once again I could be wrong, but I thought a Heartless had the soul of whoever they "Heartlessized." And the resulting Nobody was literally just an empty shell: no heart, no soul, no nothing.
I just thought of a cool world that could be in kh3, meet the roberstons could possibly be in it, or at least, the kid could be a summend(sp) character, but it is made by disney, so it could possibly be in it too.
No, I hope they stick to only good Disney movies like they have. Though Chicken Little kind of nerfed that, didn't he? Man, what a crappy movie that was.
Anyway, I guess it might be a good movie, but from the commercials I've seen, I'm guessing it's not.
I think it looks funny, and previews say its the best comedy so far, so yeah, but then again, they say that all the time about certain movies. But still, i think it would be a good one to have in there.
Hoo, boy... Once again, previews don't say everything about what a movie really is. You cannot judge a movie by its trailers. Bridge to Terabithia is an excellent example of this; the trailers made it out to be a rip-off of Narnia, and when many people saw them, they thought that's what the movie really was. In other words, people went to the movies, thinking that Bridge to Terabithia would be some kind of fantasy film. Boy, were THEY surprised when they saw that movie. ;)
Anyway, a Meet the Robinsons summon would be quite interesting. It would be funny if the T-rex were to be a summon. :P
yeah, and sora would go, why aren't you helping me? and the t-rex would go, I have a big head, and little arms, lol, instead of, why aren't you saving the boy? I have a big head, and little arms, that movie actually does look kind of funny.
I dont know, I'd rather have some old school Disney in there.
And, not to offend, but JDog, you need to clean up your posts. Try using sentences and coherent thoughts! I dont wanna be mean, but its really hard to read what you have to say when the post is one big paragraph!
No kidding, and on the Wii/DS codes thread, bgrugby will probably blow up at you if he gets back on.
Yeah, old school disney would be cool...ah, if only Looney Toons were in the mix as well, have Bugs as an ally...
Yeah, you could only imagine the stuff that could be put in there...
Ah, the funny stuff that would happen if Donald and Daffy were to meet each other. :P
Lol I know.
QuoteHoo, boy... Once again, previews don't say everything about what a movie really is. You cannot judge a movie by its trailers. Bridge to Terabithia is an excellent example of this; the trailers made it out to be a rip-off of Narnia, and when many people saw them, they thought that's what the movie really was. In other words, people went to the movies, thinking that Bridge to Terabithia would be some kind of fantasy film. Boy, were THEY surprised when they saw that movie.
Anyway, a Meet the Robinsons summon would be quite interesting. It would be funny if the T-rex were to be a summon.
I thought
Narnia to be quite good.
Bridge to Teribithia and
Meet the Robinsons look quite good too.
Ok ignore this post.
umm...you can't spam and then say ignore this post, it's still spam.
A Narnia world would be great, although I don't think having Aslan as an ally would, if he's as strong as the movies make him it would be cheap.
Aslan as an ally would be kill for any other side against Sora. Not fair, buddy :-*
Methinks that would make a good screenshot for the 'OWNED!' collection in the funny pictures thread.
Are you talking about your Keyblade suggestion about the keychain having toy blocks that say "OWNED" on it? If so, I still find that awesomely funny. :D :P
If not...then I STILL still find that awesomely funny. :D :P
Yes, that, and a screenshot of Aslan as Sora's ally, about to kill something.
Oh, I'll get on the drawing designs right now. :P
We could probably photoshop the keyblade as well...to make it the blocks. Toy Story would be such an awesome world....Pizza Palace would be hecka fun.
I never thought of that! Oy vey, Pizza Palace would be really fun to run around in! But then you'd have to dodge the giant peole walking around- after all, Sora would be the size of a toy. :P
Battling the claw...that would be an awesome boss.
Yes, but how would they manage to transform the claw into a Heartless? *thinks*
I've got some scary images... :P
The game symbol on the outside of the glass could peel away and show the heartless symbol underneath, then it sucks Sora into it and he has to fight while standing on the aliens and trying not to sink...or he could try and escape through them.
Hey, that's a pretty good idea. Yeah, the claw would be an awesome boss... You know, that would be the first time Sora and company would fight INSIDE a Heartless...unless, of course, you leave Xehanort's Heartless out of the picture in the first game. :P
yeah that's right, let's completely forget the first game and look at the shiny new third one an dmarvel at it's oncoming glory.
The third one I really can't wait for, seeing as how there looks to be many new surprises. And I eagerly await the release. Too bad it seems to be coming out in 2009. :'(
Oh I may be able to get a PS3 by then. or make a friend who has one lol
Heh lol, good luck trying. All PS3 titles are $60!
That's nothing compared to the PS3 itself. Although hopefully prices will drop over the years....So say KH3 and a PS3 would probably cost around five hundred...
If inflation/depreciation continues like it should, then that doesn't seem so bad compared to today's prices.
Hey, if we're lucky, maybe everything will depreciate to about $300! It's a long shot, though. :-*
I just thought of something to revive this topic with.
MAGIC!
I was wondering what kinds of spells we wanted to see. I mean, I know we should expect the whole fire-blizzard-thunder-aero-etc. thing, but I mean the uses for the spells. The fire spell in #2 drove me crazy. I wanted the homing-missile fire attack, instead I get some kind of fire shield. Yeah, it looked cool, but just wasn't as useful for me.
i have kingdom hearts 1 & 2. Dont have chain of memeories. well if you dint mind me going off topic what partg of the game do liked the best. my opinoin is when you get to kill 1,000 heartless. oh and one world i would like to see in the next game (if there is one coming out) would probably be a run through of The Spirit of Mickey.
You have Kingdom Hearts 3? that hasn't been made, buddy. There's just 1, 2, and CoM, which is kind of a 1.5.
What do you mean by Spirit of Mickey? and yes, the next game is definitely coming out.
When he says Kingdom Hearts 3, I think he refers to Kingdom Heart 2, because technically, KH 2 is the third installment.
But, pray tell, what exactly is this "Spirit of Mickey" you speak of? Elaborate, please.
Well why we wait for him, what do you think about the magic thing?
Magic definitely needs to have more usage to it like it did in the first game. The same goes for Summons; they were practically useless in KHII.
It would also be cool if magic looked MUCH more destructive. :D
i was just going by the amount of games the have for Kingdom hearts
any of you know how to completly defeat Xemas ( ? ? ? ).
FOUND OUT NEVER MIND
weetle, you just triple-posted. That is against the rules around here. If you need to add to your message, use the Modify option on the top of every one of your posts.
Yes, you should read the rules. They are on the Announcements board.
This is the third time a mod has had to intervene on your expense weetle. Next time is a warning.
Not to mention that every single one of his threads is posted in the wrong section....even after I told him to read the rules, it appears he hasn't.
But what's done is done. Let's continue our discussion on KHIII, shall we? ;)
Do you know what I'd really want in the next game? More dramatic music. I've noticed that in many epic parts in the worlds in KHII, there was no music playing at all. The example that bugs me most is in the Land of Dragons when Shan Yu was charging at Sora and the gang on the mountaintop, and Mulan had to use the cannon. Was there any serious music playing? No, not until the avalanche started.
I think more unique, dramatic music would be nice in scenes like that.
Maybe if they incorporated some Final Fantasy music, it would be awesome...I remember they had this music that played at Shinra headquarters and the train graveyard, it was really emotional...I would also like to see Final Heaven played in it. I think the opening music is great though, Utada Hikaru is amazing.
Yes, she's an awesome singer. Her songs would be perfect for DDR, I tell you! ;D
But I'm not saying that the music in KHII is bad. I think it's great! It's just that I think that it needs more of it in the areas that need it the most.
I myself was quite happy when I heard "He's a Pirate" as the battle theme in Port Royal. I half-guessed that it would be it, but I was still happy nonetheless.
lol yes, that song made my day. I hope Atlantica isn't a song world again. then again, I didn't really like fighting in there either, I actually think the singing was better...I dunno...maybe improve the singing. Neverland needs to come back, and be bigger than before. Not just the ship and clock tower...
I think maybe putting sequel scenarios in the game would continue to be a good idea, even if the sequels were particularly bad. I'm convinced that Square Enix would use their magic touch and make the sequels' scenarios. :)
Sequel scenarios? How do you mean, like foreshadowing?
I mean using scenarios from Disney sequels. I'm sure they can make SOMETHING good out of those. ;)
Spirit of Mickey is a movie with alot of old Mickey mouse episodes. Mainly 30's - 40's. Because if you remember in KHII you went into The first episode "Steamboat Willy"
I found a over view.
In the days before DVD, Disney released only a few sets of cartoons featuring their classic characters. Many were released early on and featured different characters as their star. This set came years later and features the original, Mickey Mouse.
This is a great collection of Mickey cartoons. The titles include, "Band Concert" (the first color cartoon), "Thru the Mirror," Oscar winner "Lend a Paw," "Orphan's Picnic," "The Worm Turns," "Mickey's Surprise Party," "Mickey and the Seal," "Mickey's Trailer," "Canine Caddy," "Mr. Mouse Takes a Trip," and the original: "Steamboat Willie." I enjoy this collection; it's great to see so many of the studios best work collected in one place. The title is a little misleading, because Donald and Pluto star is a couple of these. I especially enjoy "Band Concert," because it's so funny to watch, "Thru the Mirror," and "Steamboat Willie." One thing that's interesting to me is that so many of the early cartoons had a music soundtrack with little dialogue. The sound could have been cleaned up a bit on a couple of these, especially "Thru the Mirror." And I would have really liked to have had dates included with the titles at the beginning. Still, it's a solid collection of some of Disney's classic short subjects.
The Disney Treasures DVDs have pretty much made this video obsolete. If you can find it cheaply, it does present several classics in one place.
And yet, as it turns out, one of those classics turned up in KHII! ;D
Maybe Square will put in another one for KHIII?
I think maybe the first episodes with Donald and Goofy should be made...Back when Goofy was Dippy Dawg.
LOL, i laugh and cry just to think of it. Laugh cause its funny, but cry because it will most likely not happen. But, we can always hope, right? ;D
The question is, which did you do most, laugh or cry? :P
I'm still all for Narnia and Terabithia worlds to appear. I can never emphasize that enough. ;)
I just thought of something. If you notice in the games, when you get a charm the world of the origin of the charm is there. So from this point of view we'll see Agraba again. 8) With that Chicken Little and some other poeple.
....I have no idea what that means....seriously work on your posts...I think you mean that when you get a summon that summon's world appears in the next game.
I say that's wrong; my evidence is Bambi and Dumbo. Maybe other summons as well.
Oh, how I wish we could go back to the glory days of Dippy Dawg...