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Zelda Lore => Storyline => Topic started by: Master Dragmire on March 17, 2007, 10:06:48 PM

Title: My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 17, 2007, 10:06:48 PM
OoT> Link I

a.MM> Link I
a.TP> Link II

b.ALttP> Link II (second link in adult timeline)
b.LA> Link II
b.LoZ> Link II
b.AoL> Link II
b.MC> Link III
b.FS> Link III
b.FSA> Link(s) III
b.Oracles> Link III
b.WW> Link IV
b.PH> Link IV

OoT> Split Timelines occur, Link I seals Ganon in Sacred Realm/Dark Realm, Zelda sends Link I into child timeline, Link tells Zelda (child) of Gannondorf' plan.

(child) MM> Link I leaves for Termina , Triforce reunites in Hyrule, the events of Majora's Mask occur, Link I does not leave Termina.

(child) TP> New Link II is born in Ordon, Gannondorf is executed,  The events of TP occur, Triforce is intact, Gannondorf is killed again.

(adult) ALttP> Link II  is born and raised with his Uncle in Hyrule, The events of ALttP occur, Ganon is destroyed (spirit remains) , The Triforce is intact.

(adult) LA> Link II sails away from Hyrule seeking something, The events of LA occur, Link sails back to Hyrule, Triforce is intact.

(adult) LoZ> Link II arrives in Hyrule to find Ganon has returned and taken over the southern part of Hyrule, The Triforce of Wisdom is broken into 8 pieces and Power went to Ganon. The events of LoZ occur. The two Triforce peices are recovered , and reunited with Courage.

a. = child
b. = adult

EDIT: Alright Kannochi, you win.You have swayed my mind, but Im having trouble figuring out where the orignal NES games go....Any ideas? (I put them there temporarily, but that may be correct.)
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Commodore Axilon on March 17, 2007, 09:28:26 PM
I don't really feel like dicussing the whole single/split timeline thing, so I'll just ask why you think TWW comes all the way at the end of timeline "B", after all those other games?
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 17, 2007, 11:23:12 PM
because i beleive phantom hour glass is the first game to be set in new Hyrule......
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Fairy penguin on March 18, 2007, 09:24:27 AM
Ummmm, what about 4 Swords. Because FSA manual says it came bafore it.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 18, 2007, 10:26:27 AM
before what?  ;D
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 18, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
FS happens before FSA.

You don't give any explanation?

LA, according to the manual, is after LTTP and the same Link.

You don't even tell us which games have the same Link.

PH happens in the sea, not New Hyrule. It's a different sea, though.

Also, you seem to misunderstand what the split timeline is.

       _ _ _ Adult -----------TWW/PH
       l
OOT -
       l
       ------ Child ------- MM ------- TP

And what are these Timeline A and B? You give no explanation, which makes this confusing.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 18, 2007, 12:30:37 PM
behold I have MODIFIED it.....  ;D
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 18, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
TP happens in the child Link world.

MC is definetly before FS.

Oracles are in MC time, as proven by how the EXACT SAME Oracles from the Oracle Series appeared in MC.

The FSA map was made to resemble the LTTP map.

LA happens with LTTP.

To put it simply, every game is connected to LTTP through a line of connections. LTTP refers to the war in OOT. It can't be Child Link, because the war that sealed Ganon in the Sacred Realm never happened. Therefore, every game besides MM and TP are in Adult Link's world.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Fairy penguin on March 18, 2007, 03:48:37 PM
I think it would help everyone if you stated your timeline so we could understand what your saying.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 18, 2007, 04:37:06 PM
Woa, de ja vu.

OOT

Child/MM - TP

Adult - TWW/PH - MC/Oracles - LOZ/AOL - FS/FSA/LTTP/LA.

LA happens AFTER LTTP. Oracles I doubt would have the same Link, because the Triforce SENT Link from Hyrule to Holodrum and Labrynna.

FS is AFTER MC. How isn't that clear? FSA was made to resemble LTTP map.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Fairy penguin on March 18, 2007, 06:37:12 PM
I started another game in Seasons, and Din DOESN'T know you. I checked Ages too, and NAyru doesn't know you there either. Plus, Ralph is always protecting her, and if it was TMC before Oracles with the same Link, he would be around her. Also, no Hylian people know you when you do 1 of the games 1st. Wouldn't Impa know you right away if TMC had happened before the Oracles? You only said they were connected because of 3 people with the same name as the Oracle peoples.  8)
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 18, 2007, 06:40:36 PM
Ok I put MC before FS by mistake, but what you stated about everything is connected ALttP, besides MM and TP, is wacko....
First of all in MC, he Hero of Men had no cap so it couldn't have been ALttP, thus screwing up your theory completely, and in the middle of TP it shows Ganondorf being executed, so I assume that the King didn't quite beleive her at first but when he did something outrageous, they finally decided to execute him, and then ,after he returns , Ganondorf dies at the end. In LA Link sails away to gather his thoughts and such, but the last boss in that game is Shadow Ganon, which symbolizes Links fear that Ganon isn't dead, so he returns to find nothing until the events of ALttP occur. As a side-note, WW or any other game refering to the Master Sword could not take place after ALttP.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 19, 2007, 12:22:54 PM
QuoteFirst of all in MC, he Hero of Men had no cap so it couldn't have been ALttP, thus screwing up your theory completely, and in the middle of TP it shows Ganondorf being executed, so I assume that the King didn't quite beleive her at first but when he did something outrageous, they finally decided to execute him, and then ,after he returns , Ganondorf dies at the end.

First of all, that's the longest sentence EVER.

I never said that LTTP was before MC Mr. I didn't look at the timeline. TP is in the OTHER timeline. Who didn't the king believe? And Zelda now had proof Ganon did something wrong with Link and Zelda owning a Triforce piece. And it has never been stated the chain of events that caused his explanation, it only said that 'As a result of Likn going back in time and talking to Zelda in OOT, their relationship with Ganon changed and as a result Ganon was exucuted.'.

QuoteIn LA Link sails away to gather his thoughts and such, but the last boss in that game is Shadow Ganon, which symbolizes Links fear that Ganon isn't dead, so he returns to find nothing until the events of ALttP occur.

Ganon was unknown to Link before LTTP, so that disproves ths. Agahnim was also there, and his intentions also unknown to Link before LTTP, although Link probably knew about the Priest Agahnim. Yes, a priest, America changed it to wizard for religious reasons. Now that I think about it, America screws up the timeline a little this way...

QuoteAs a side-note, WW or any other game refering to the Master Sword could not take place after ALttP.

As said before, PAY ATTENTION! You didn't REALLY read it. I never said TWW is after LTTP. You haven't at all looked at my timeline and just said a bunch of  false statements. Seriously, you could tell with one glance that TWW and MC are before LTTP. I don't even think you read my timeline at all.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 19, 2007, 05:27:09 PM
Hello, I have to disagree with your timeline Kannochi.....
If the Triforce sent Link to the two islands, wheres the Triforce during MC....I must say, if I was Vaati, I would much rather desire the Triforce than the Light Force....Your timeline states that MC and Oracles are next to each other.....I understand that the Oracles are the very same Oracles from MC, but It doesnt make any sense that Link would be checking up on the Triforce when he has no idea it exists.....(unless you want to come up with same wierd excuse that its the same Link from PH,  ;) )
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Commodore Axilon on March 19, 2007, 05:31:24 PM
There's no proof that the oracles from TMC are the same as the oracles from OoA/S. I don't know why everyone states this as a fact.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 19, 2007, 05:33:59 PM
Good, that works for me!

btw,
I love the Yugioh Abridged series CA (your quote)
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 20, 2007, 12:50:25 PM
It isn't PH Link, I will NEVER make assumptions about future games!

Look at Zelda's picture in the game manual. It has the Triforce on her dress AND the shield.

Labrynna and Holodrum aren't islands. As proven by looking at the creen map and going onto the top screens possible in each games, there is land behind it. These are either on the same continent (possibly the same as Hyrule) or two different, yet EXTREMELY large, continents. They are not islands in the traditional sense.

If the Oracles are not with MC, then the only change in my timeline is that they would be the Oracles are after MC and a different Link, but not with another game.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 20, 2007, 02:47:15 PM
Ah, I see, I never knew that, but I always hear people saying that their islands on this site.

Anyway,
I realize that MC has alot of refrences to the Triforce, but then again all Zelda games do. Hylians worship the Triforce, but that doesn't mean that it is always in their control, but Im not saying  that I'm completely correct. We all know that the Royal Family use the Triforce as an aid to govern Hyrule, so this could that it is back in the Sacred Realm, unknown to the people of Hyrule. I beleive that this mysterious power that Royal Family uses is misinterpreted as the Light Force, which is why Vaati could not find it, but only suck it out of Zelda. Or they simply had no idea of its whereabouts.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Mysterious F. on March 20, 2007, 03:55:15 PM
The Lightforce is something else entirely. Possibly the Triforce Piece in the middle, the upside-down one.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 20, 2007, 06:43:38 PM
Hmmm, how do you know there is a fourth piece? (just wondering)
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Fairy penguin on March 21, 2007, 05:44:04 PM
Of coarse theres a 3rd piece!  :-* Theres Courage, Wisdom, and Power. Kannochi is refering to the possible 4th piece in the middle. Some believe it to be the Triforce of Time, but that has no evidence.
Title: Re:My Timeline
Post by: Master Dragmire on March 21, 2007, 05:48:43 PM
ah