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Zelda Games => Link's Awakening => Topic started by: Penguin dude 2 on April 11, 2007, 04:27:37 PM

Title: Was it just a dream?
Post by: Penguin dude 2 on April 11, 2007, 04:27:37 PM
After seeing everyone die at the end, I was wondering if it really was just a dream, or if the people had souls. They seemed to have thoughts, and lived their lives, and had children, or was it just an incredibly elaborate dream by the Wind Fish spanning decades(centuries?)?
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Hi no Seijin on April 11, 2007, 05:00:25 PM
It's a dream.  Technically, no one died.  Metaphorically, no one died either.  I would guess that Link kept the inhabitants of Koholint in his heart.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: LadyNintendo on April 12, 2007, 10:04:09 AM
People can interpret it in many different ways:

* The people never existed because they were dreams. So they also did not die at the end.
* The people did exist, because they are/were part of the Windfish's consciousness. In that sense, they still live. Their world is just put "on hold".
* The Dream World is a true seperate realm, much like Twilight Realm, Minish Realm, Dark World/Sacred Realm etc. There are different arguments for this (like the Dream World having influence on the Light World as shown in TMC. Also, Dethl appears to have a consciousness of its/his own, which might suggest the world is real.) In that sense, the door to that world is merely closed by the Windfish's and Link's awakening.

And likely a lot more options. Pick whatever you want. :)
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Bboy94 on April 13, 2007, 06:37:24 PM
I pick that the island was once real, and the windfish ate it. Its dreaming about lunch.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Mysterious F. on April 14, 2007, 10:39:52 AM
It's really just a dream. It's downright been stated in the game.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Penguin dude 2 on April 18, 2007, 04:24:45 PM
I know it's a dream, I'm wondering if the inhabitants had concious at all. Marin, if you count the secret ending.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: DW on April 18, 2007, 04:29:06 PM
How could something that was a figment of subconsciousness have a conscionce of it's own?
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Mysterious F. on April 18, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
I think that none of them did, but it seemed Marin got 'reincarnated' by the Wind Fish.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Bboy94 on April 18, 2007, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: Bboy94 on April 13, 2007, 06:37:24 PM
I pick that the island was once real, and the windfish ate it. Its dreaming about lunch.
Consider... Maybe Marin was just the last bit of the dream to fade away, and that whole time Link was truly interacting with a seagull the whole time
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: LadyNintendo on April 20, 2007, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on April 18, 2007, 04:29:06 PM
How could something that was a figment of subconsciousness have a conscionce of it's own?

You should seriously watch Soultaker.

The figment has consciousness, simply because it exists out of consciousness. The conscious exists, as part of another that doesn't use it. But just because something isn't used, does it mean it does not exist?
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Hi no Seijin on April 20, 2007, 09:19:05 PM
Put in simple, every day words, I don't use my textbooks, yet they exist.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: MagmarFire on April 21, 2007, 07:59:12 AM
 :P :P Good call, Hi no Seijin! Good call! :P :P

Anyway, regarding Marin, parhaps she's the dream interpretation of Zelda. Of course, that would probably contradict the fact that Koholint Island is the Wind Fish's dream, not Link's.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: LadyNintendo on April 22, 2007, 10:45:28 PM
Why? Why wouldn't the Windfish know one of the Zeldas (*cough* or Malons*cough*)? Considering how old the Windfish most likely is, he could easily have met some of them.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: MagmarFire on April 23, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
Good point, LN.

There's also the fact that Ganon's Shadow is a Nightmare... Perhaps the Wind Fish's dream and Link's memory are intertwined? Or maybe the Wind Fish knew of Ganon's existence before LA's events? Maybe both? :-\
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Bboy94 on April 25, 2007, 04:39:46 PM
I think it comes down to the former.
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: DW on April 25, 2007, 08:17:39 PM
I think maybe when the Wind Fish sleeps, it picks up on the memories of everyone who comes by it and makes an interpretation of it...
Title: Re:Was it just a dream?
Post by: Penguin dude 2 on July 12, 2007, 10:21:05 PM
Dethl was able to see some of Links nightmares, and used those against him in the final battle. It wanted to keep the WF asleep so it could stay on Koholint.
Title: Re: Was it just a dream?
Post by: larwaa on August 21, 2009, 06:31:23 PM
As to how WF clearly is a deity, I believe it could easily dream a world into existence. It could be that the dreamworld is another dimension, and is simply put on hold while it's awake, as LadyNintendo said. For all we know Termina could be that very same dimension, as the Zora's there obviously know about the WF.

*Edit* I just now realized that I had plenty misspellings. Bad ones too. :(