Did anyone here hear about the shooting that happened in Vargina Tech University today? 33 people were found dead, and the shooter later got killed somehow, Im guessing he killed him self, its really scary, I know I don't wanna be going to VTU any time soon...
No, I did not. That's so sad...... Those people expected to be taught that day, not killed.
Did you by chance try to spell "Virginia"?
Thankfully, the people I know at VA Tech are okay.
And let's not go to a college because bad stuff happened there. ::)
When I was applying to VCU, I heard about a girl that went there was killed, but that didn't stop me. These things happen sometimes, and the best the colleges can do is find ways to improve security.
Yes, being attacked doesn't make a college a bad place to be. Well, at that time it did...but yeah I found it seven minutes after it got posted, during fifth period... ::)but don't tell anyone...I think he probably shot himself, another case like Columbine. and eight years after it too.
Man, the shooter is so stupid. Why do certain killers like that think that is the right way to bring a point across? Not to mention the innocent people who get hurt and killed in the process. So troubling... :'(
However, I am glad that Hi no Seijin is okay, even though he doesn't go to that college. It's a good thing his friends at Virginia Tech are okay, too. :)
Quote from: MagmarFire on April 16, 2007, 05:04:59 PM
Man, the shooter is so stupid. Why do certain killers like that think that is the right way to bring a point across? Not to mention the innocent people who get hurt and killed in the process. So troubling... :'(
However, I am glad that Hi no Seijin is okay, even though he doesn't go to that college. It's a good thing his friends at Virginia Tech are okay, too. :)
It's not that the y have a point to get across. Most of the time, it's because people are in desperate times and they pretty much go insane...
In other news, some stupid kids at my school keep pranking and having 'bomb threats'. It's gotten to the point that it's just annoying rather than a real security problem. Our administration is stupid. We had ANOTHER 'bomb threat' like 2 or 3 weeks ago... God, not to mention, people keep pulling the fire alarm. One week, we had like 4 fire alarms because some idiots kept pulling the alarm. Once it was twice in one day...
Off topic for a second. You may want to check your spelling on Virginia.
On topic. I'm sorry this had to happen to people so young. I don't think that because one bad thing happens, it makes it a bad place to be.
I just watched all about it on TV. Aparently some dude with a camera phone took a small video of the outside. It sounded crazy! There were four survivors, one of which played dead (I would have done the exact same thing) and I cann only pray for those families that are mourning the loss of their children, grandchilren, brothers, and sisters. May they rest in peace. And it was confirmed that the shooter did commit suicide. He's in hell right now regretting everything he did.
I heard, I heard today on the news. And I also heard it was the worst school shooting in US History.
May God bless the sould of all those who were lost, and may he nurture those who are suffering...
I think the Columbine shooting was much much worse than this recent shooting. Columbine was set up with a door on each wall, making it easier for the gunmen to manuver, and they had a lot more ammunition. I'm not convinced that this was the worst, but every school shooting is bad, no matter which way you view the subject.
In terms of raw death count, I think this one stands to be the worst of US history. Remember last year when a topic was posted about how there were like 3 school shootings, all around the same time?
Yes this is the worst shooting incident ever in the United States, as Columbine had 14 deaths including the shooters and 16 were killed in the University of Texas shooting in 1966 while so far there are 33 confirmed killed including the shooter, and it is a awful shame. What is scary is that there might be another shooter still at large as the shooter in the second shooting who killed himself did not match the description of the shooter that killed 2 in a dorm a few hours before. I pray that the situation is over and for the families of the victims.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on April 16, 2007, 06:34:58 PM
In terms of raw death count, I think this one stands to be the worst of US history. Remember last year when a topic was posted about how there were like 3 school shootings, all around the same time?
yeah, and two of those weren't far from where I live. Well actually, just one, the second was on the bus.
EDIT: They named the killer, it was a 23 year old South Korean student who lived on campus.
http://www.break.com/index/virginia_tech_school_shooting.html
Yeah, read about it in the paper.
Horrible; that's pretty much the first thing that I thought. And disgusting. I hate people like this. Either he was looking for attention, or had the "I'll go, but I'm taking as many people as possible with me"-mentality. A pathetic man in any case.
But I also blame a certain country, that somehow considers having guns a right, for this.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on April 17, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
Horrible; that's pretty much the first thing that I thought. And disgusting. I hate people like this. Either he was looking for attention, or had the "I'll go, but I'm taking as many people as possible with me"-mentality. A pathetic man in any case.
I agree... and yes, the right to have a gun in the United Sates is very foolish.
Guns are nothing but trouble, it seems everytime someone has one, someone ends up dying.
Mkay, let's just not give the army any guns. Seriously, I go with Chappelle on this--make guns easy to get, make bullets hecka expensive.
A man saved his students in the shooting. I found out yesterday. And, yes, it is awful.
I have a better idea: let's outlaw anything that can be a weapon.
Oh wait. The human body itself can be a weapon.
The right to own arms is a sticky situation. Certainly, people can easily buy a gun and then go kill someone with it, but there are many others who buy a gun solely for self-defense, hoping that they will never need to use it. Drawing the line may be easy, but it's hard to enforce that line when it's laid.
Since when does 'self defense' include owning a weapon that can easily kill dozens quickly?
I think the guy used a semi-automatic... Guns of excessive power should be outlawed except for the military and Police.
When I say 'excessive power', I mean the fact that X amount of rounds can be fired in one minute. Since when does a hunter need a semi-automatic or an automatic?
Yes, protection is fine, but when it comes to shooting someone you've never met in your life for no odd reason is not fine, but shooting someone either way is not fine.
Not to mention that the meaning behind the Second Amendment is a debate in itself. I guess that's one good reason why the laws regarding weaponry can be so tricky to enforce. :-*
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on April 16, 2007, 06:07:17 PM
He's in hell right now regretting everything he did.
We don't really know that, although it doesn't entirely matter in this massacre anyway. I do understand yours (and millions of others') anger in this, ZV; it's EXTREMELY understandable for you to say that. I don't really blame you, in fact. We just don't know the unknown. (Sorry for getting philosophical on you. ;) )
However, a major part of what REALLY matters is remembering those who were lost in this tragedy and try to take pains to prevent another one like this from happening again.
I agree, and he just broke one of the ten commandments by killing many random people, cause god said thou shall not kill. So yeah, he probably is in hell, but if he asked forgiveness, which I doubt it cause he was probably happy with what he did, he might have been forgiven, and went to heaven, but I doubt he even had time to ask forgiveness cause he pretty much killed himself after it all happened, what a weirdo/nutcase that guy was.
It said he wasn't Christian...they found an eight page paper in his backpack, and part of it talked about his religious doubts. So I think he's in hell...
It kind of pisses me off that somebody would do that! It's like, "who the hell do you think you are?" and I'd like to strangle him. But I imagine there are hundreds of people like that, thinking the same way about him, and I think that's why he killed himself. He realized, oops, I'm an asshole, I can't get away with this on a number of levels. Unless he did it ceremoniously, which makes sense because there was rumour out that he had been planning it.
I heard among the people shot and killed were a holocaust survivor and a leading prosthetical engineer. It's awful that ANYONE should die, and I wouldn't place a ranking system on the value of people's lives, but I'd say it's a loss also to the historical community and the medical/engineering community to have prominent figures killed. --Not to mention the students who were or would have been great after their schooling was complete.
Wow, you guys didn't waste any time jumping into the second amendment debate, did you? I think I'll, uh, wait on that one.
I concur with collaboration. It wouldn't be very smart to start a second ammendment debate right now. This is a topic to mourn for those who have died or have lost loved ones.
Yes..and no, he didn't shoot himself because he thought he would get in trouble. That paper they found in his backpack pretty much proved he expected to die. The one thing I wonder though, is what Ismail Ax meant? It was written in blood on his arm....unless it was one of his characters from his twisted stories...
The story of Abraham sacrificing his son to God. Abraham had two sons; Isaac, the one who is well known to take the sacrificial role, and Ishmael, who under other traditions is thought to be the sacrificed one. The object used to kill is in some stories, a knife, and other stories, an Ax.
DOes that clear anything up?
He's taking the lesser believed version of the story...
New information, apparenlty in between the two shootings he mailed a package to NBC with pictures of him with weapons and a CD of him saying he was going to get even with rich people...
Please leave religion out of this. Trust me. It always turns into arguments. (don't take it offensively)
I was recently released that the guy had had mental issues in the past, and was known to be a stalker, and the dumbsh*ts at the gun shop sold him a gun.
Has anyone seen the episode of Pen and Teller:BS! on Gun Control? It is very informative (and hilarious).
Lets face it. Gun Control is a lie.
*shrugs*
Just saying what I read the tattoo was about.
Quote from: Dragmire on April 18, 2007, 05:06:30 PM
Please leave religion out of this. Trust me. It always turns into arguments. (don't take it offensively)
I was recently released that the guy had had mental issues in the past, and was known to be a stalker, and the dumbsh*ts at the gun shop sold him a gun.
Has anyone seen the episode of Pen and Teller:BS! on Gun Control? It is very informative (and hilarious).
Lets face it. Gun Control is a lie.
religion actually has a lot to do with this, they found an eight page rant which contained a rant about religion in his backpack.
and they didn't have a choice but to sell him the guns, he had a green card and didn't have any record against him. It was actually illegal for them to deny selling him the gun. So really this goes back to the government, who made it illegal for them to do anything about this guy. They couldn't force him into counseling or make him unallowed to get guns unless he said he was going to kill a specific person or said he had a weapon and was going to use it.
lol
Yeah. My brother went off to live on his own for college the day this happened. I never got to warn him about asian dudes in leather jackets...... :'(
Okay, that was really racist right there...this was one guy, just because he was Asian doesn't mean all Asians will do that. The columbine shooters were both caucasian.
EDIT: They just released some of the stuff in the package he sent, here's the page with the info:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting
jokeing.... ;) (GULPS) I didn't mean to make it plural. That was a huge mistake. IM sorry if anyone took if offensively.
Not meant to be racist. I have 4 asian friends ( I'll name them so people don't think I'm lying : Kaz, Leonard, Melvin (indian-asian), and Micheal), and they would have found it humorous. Sorry if our ethics are different.
Also, he wasn't in leather..but yeah be careful about stuff like that...anyways, here's a slideshow of pictures about the shooting, it has some of the pictures that he sent to NBC...
hooooooly....yeah, just a bit...I'll take care of that...
make it scrolling please!
:-X
Yeah, I haven't been following the story up that much. I heard the leather jacket thing from Dateline.
No, he wasn't wearing a leather jacket in any of the pictures I saw anyways...
AHEM... DOUBLE POST!
it's become expected, all those who go on rampages at schools are usually very isolated individuals with rejection issues, possibly taking psychiatric medication...
No, Gamefreak had a post there saying I was stretching the page, wonder why he deleted it though :-\
What's so stupid is there were so many signs, but they coudln't do anything about it.
His teachers tried to do something, advising that he take counseling. They all noticed that he was unusually quiet, and that it seemed a little... uneasy. They did all they could, recommend that he get counselling.
You can't really arrest someone on the grounds that they are 'unusually depressed' with the logic that they might go on a rampage..
If that were the case, I woulda been locked away A LONG TIME AGO.
Dude, you aren't as bad as he was...his violence-drenched, disturbing plays...and everything else...
I heard that the teachers tried to send him to counseling, because he was out of the niorm, but he refused to go.
And you really can't force counseling, because, well, that would be unconstitutional.
Anybody read any of the plays he had written? They released a couple. They both suck.
LINK (http://news.aol.com/virginia-tech-shootings/cho-seung-hui/_a/richard-mcbeef-cover-page/20070417134109990001)
Crappy plays with crappy themes. He may have had mental problems, as well you would have to do what he did, but to be honest, it looks like he really liked the shock-factor. What an asshole.
Damn. >:(He's more psycotic than I thought. >:(And that play does suck. I hope that guy burns in Hell forever. >:(
He does deserve it... after all, he has casued so much suffering for those poor families...
Okay..I know this guy is horrible but watch the language...I think that can be excused because of situation but any more will probably get you a warning...
We were watching Radio in class today, and these jerks were making fun of him every time something bad happened, then they started joking about the shooting...I wanted to throttle them so bad...
Those plays did suck....
and you can tell he's twisted too...
Good point. I mean, after 33 peopl died and 30 were injured, how could you possibly shrug it off and make fun of it so... lightly? I mean, it's- it's the worst school shooting ever, and they make fun of it... people sicken me, really...
They will be the ones to be involved in shootings later on most likely..
I think it is the worst massacre in all of U.S. History. :(
It is the worst school shooting in history by far, actually.
I can't believe he thought he would inspire people to follow him though.
It's not just the worst school shooting in U.S. history; it's the worst inbound shooting in U.S. history period. :-*
Yeah, Turner's Rebellion may have been worse, but it wasn't technically a shooting. It wasn't even supported by just one person.
Here's hoping that something like this never happens in the U.S. again. Of course, getting our hopes up would probably be unwise. :-*
There's only one colledge shooting that comes even close to this one. The Charles Witman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman) shooting.
This is a very sad event. I haven't heard what were on the NBC videos, though,but it seems that it proves he is insane.
That guys bad too, but not as bad as Cho. I can't understand how people can make fun of this, even my friend and I don't joke about this.
Because the world is full of sick people who don't know that things like this are sad rather than a complete joke.
P.S.- Modified title so people will know it's about the Virginia Shooting.
Quote from: Penguin dude 2 on April 19, 2007, 05:04:03 PM
That guys bad too, but not as bad as Cho. I can't understand how people can make fun of this, even my friend and I don't joke about this.
It's an abomination to those who lost their lives and those who lost loved ones! We have every right to be angry at the people who do make fun of it. ???
Both Cho and Witman were completely insane. Although Witman is sensible, he has child abuse and stuff. I don't know much about the Charles Case, however, except over 30 are dead and he was insane, proved by the video sent to NBC.
''Virgina' is spelled V I R G I N I A.
I only updated one letter, he spelled it 'Vagina', so I didn't really catch it.
I didn't want to say anything. It feels wrong that I'm laughing at the spelling. :x
QuoteWe were watching Radio in class today, and these jerks were making fun of him every time something bad happened, then they started joking about the shooting...I wanted to throttle them so bad...
I know the feeling. In my government class, we were watching a movie on the 80's. And when we got to the Space Shuttle Challenger, several people in my class exclaimed "Cool!" because of an explosion. I went off on them in the middle of class.
*sighs*
Another day, another bomb threat. Yesterday, the guy threatened the middle school... Apparently, it was real this time...
I heard they searched his house and came up with C4 explosives. I just hope they catch that little whore... Cause quite frankly, I'm getting SICK of wasting time going somewhere because of bomb threat again and again and again (we've had like FOUR (or even more) bomb threats this year, all in the past month or so.)
Whaat surprises me is that one kid was somehow able to get some C4.
Wow, that's scary....a C4? I thought those were Armed Forces-only...
and yes, more people are still joking about the shooting, today in class they were making fun of a kid who happens to be Asian and when he started to get mad they acted scared and said, 'Oh no, he's gonna pull a Virginia Tech on us!' and laughed again...if they do cause a shooting...God...
then the same people were making fun of me and I said, 'You know, this is what causes people to become shooters.' hoping it would get through to them after this tragedy, but the thought I was meaning I was going to come shoot everyone up... 8)
I swear some people are so retarded...
Two words, Shika: True story. I agree with you 100%.
Man, the NERVE of some people! I mean, people have DIED, and all that stupid people show for it is crap like what Shika mentioned about students being racist due to coincidential circumstances.
People like that should have a brain scan or something... :-*
I hate those soulless peope who believe this is funny. >:( Like today, my school was locked down hours because they found an unused cartige, and someone was joking about it with Vtech. He had a broken nose a few seconds later from me.
Quote from: Penguin dude 2 on April 20, 2007, 08:59:56 PM
I hate those soulless peope who believe this is funny. >:( Like today, my school was locked down hours because they found an unused cartige, and someone was joking about it with Vtech. He had a broken nose a few seconds later from me.
r u serious?? u brok his nose?? way to go! ([size=-10] kinda [/size])
Way to go indeed, though I dont approve of violence. :P
serves him right, those people deserve to have been caught in the shooting instead of the innocent college students...
People are a**es, yes, but let's not wish ill will upon others... that in itself could cause more violence.
Watch the language!
Well I don't think they should be killed for their arrogance, I wish they had been there to feel the terror and see the dead bodies. Like a Twilight Zone lesson, but without any transdimensional warping :-X
Hands-on experience? That definitely would get it through their heads that the same thing could happen to them.
Of course, for all we know, they probably would just say, "Wow, people were shot to death! Cool!" after they had gotten wind of the shooting. :-*
People who look at this shooting and say "Cool" chousl themsleves be shot. That's just disgusting. How is loss of life on a massive scale cool?!
Like I said, people who think that need a brain scan...or brain surgery. There are apparently people out there who are not empathetic to a degree that really needs it. :-*
Violence only begats violence.
This is especially true of sick-minded individuals whom think this is cool.
This is what makes the desensitization claims true, you look at all the popular movies and games, and what are they? Bloody, violent shooters and such.
Which kinda links back to what I was saying about the whole GTA thing, but that point was dismissed..
He actually was at least partially inspired by some South Korean killer movies, one of the photos he sent was one of him holding a hammer, the weapon of choice for the killer in the movies, in a pose similar to the one from the movies.
You know, Jack Thompson made a VERY blatantly ignorant argument that Chang was a player of violent video games. They didn't even FIND any video games or systems in his room... And I doubt he had enough money for that kinda thing...
Jack Thmpson is a complete idiot that jumps to conclusions at everything. THe man thinks everything is done out of violence from media... especially video games.
Yes, while they do contribute, they alone don't make someone a killer. The guy was treated like crap, made fun of because of how he spoke in middle and high school...
Besides, movies and TV shows also contribute. I know that was already mentioned before, but I feel that I must reinforce it; I myself have semi-violent video games like Kingdom Hearts, Ratchet and Clank, The Legend of Dragoon, and Zelda. All because I play them doesn't mean that I myself am violent.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on April 22, 2007, 11:10:17 AM
You know, Jack Thompson made a VERY blatantly ignorant argument that Chang was a player of violent video games. They didn't even FIND any video games or systems in his room... And I doubt he had enough money for that kinda thing...
Jack Thmpson is a complete idiot that jumps to conclusions at everything. THe man thinks everything is done out of violence from media... especially video games.
Jack Thompson will make it his life dream to get Grand Theft Auto removed.
And Jack Thompson is an ignorant idiot who thinks that the cause of the worlds problems is the media. Not true, at least not completely true.
I have not heard of Jack Thompson before this, but I now dislike him with a passion as well.
I hate politicians that think video games are just things to get people to go and kill people. RPGs tell awesome(usually) stories, like Baten Kaitos Origins. Anyway, Chos only hobbie was downloading music. Good thing that his family is nothing like him.
Jack Thompson makes me sick. Instead of actually caring about those who have died/gotten injured by the events that happened at Virginia Tech, he takes advantage of this tragedy just to get an opportunity to give the video game companies and us gamers bad names.
Open your eyes, Thompson. There are millions of people out there, and millions are gamers. You're taking just a select few who just HAPPEN to play video games and end up getting into a killing spree and blaming millions of innocent people that are connected media-wise.
Jack Thompson is such a bigot. :-*
Jack Thompson deserves to be sued for constant insulting of the video game world. Video Games only help a small bit with violence (3-7%) and in this case, video games had nothing to do with it. And he simply doesn't care about many people dying, which gets me sick.
You don't think they've already tried? No matter what anyone does, Jack Thompson will make an instant counter-argument - no matter how insane or flawed - that he's being harassed for X reason. Don't believe me? Just look Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Arcade_%28webcomic%29#Jack_Thompson).
He deserves to be sued for violating the first ammendment, the fifth, and for being a complete... well, I can't say that, can I? ;)
He 'violates' himself every single day... not to mention quite a few others...
Maybe we should just stop talking abotu him, it seems to be causing some anger :P
I agree about stopping the arguments about Jack Thompson; but I'd like to add my two cents:
I hate it when people say something along the lines of "OMG THOSE VIDEO GAMES R CAUSING WW3!!11!!"
I'm not running around killing pigs with a glowing sword, am I? I'm not eating shrooms everyday to be more powerful, am I? I don't run around in darkened rooms running from "ghosts" and eating pellets, or stack blocks to destroy them. I'm actually a pacifist, I'd hate to do any of those things. That's the beauty in simulations and whatnot.
There's millions of gamers, maybe a tiny fraction of the society has thought of a shooting. And what else do they do? They might download music, or watch TV or go on dates with their girlfriend/boyfriend. Does this mean being married/dating is evil and causing ww3? No. More importantly-- why should you care about video games when 33 people are dead?
I think the VT shooting was unfortunate. As for the killer... I'm not in any position to decide right or wrong, who lives, who dies... But I stand that I'm deeply disappointed in him.
A few years back, my math teacher failed someone on a test, and then he went and threatened to kill her and we had a lockdown. No one was killed, but... people like that are stupid. You aren't good at math? No problem, we'll just shoot the teacher!
I hope the families of the victims are coping well with this...
That is a very good point Fisk, and I agree wholeheartedly...
That goes for me, too.
There's always a select few individuals that other people think the entire gaming community account 100% for. It's a lot like judging a book by its cover: is it wise? Absolutely not, but people do it.
Mostly because they are probably guilty in part for something like that, and they know it. So they try to shift the blame to something else.
For example, I can't get on myspace on our computer anymore because when we got a virus my sister goes 'well he's been going to myspace' and blamed it on me, even though I had been using it for months without problems and the computer started having troubles the day after my sister got on it and went, "Hey, I found Hannah Montana's website!" and started downloading songs and pictures off of it.
That's actually why most libraries rotate their book collection around so they have newer, more attractable books, Maggy.
The day Jack Thompson dies will be celebrated as an international holiday! ;D
I'm sure that the families are angry about Jack, while everybody else is grieving over their deaths, Jack is using the deaths as an excuse to ban video games, a terrible one at that.
Whoa, please call him by his full name only, calling him by first name is too intimate for someone we despise so badly, plus for a second I thought you were talking about our jack ;)
Quote from: Shikaboose on April 29, 2007, 06:04:24 PM
Mostly because they are probably guilty in part for something like that, and they know it. So they try to shift the blame to something else.
For example, I can't get on myspace on our computer anymore because when we got a virus my sister goes 'well he's been going to myspace' and blamed it on me, even though I had been using it for months without problems and the computer started having troubles the day after my sister got on it and went, "Hey, I found Hannah Montana's website!" and started downloading songs and pictures off of it.
Why don't you tell your parents about that? It may not help you get back your myspace, but it SHOULD help with proper justice...
No, they won't listen. Besides, they still have to keep it blocked so SHE doesn't do anything again.
Just tell your parents about the "Hanna montana (un)official website" and sit back and watch the fireworks.
She goes to so many of those it's not even funny...like half the websites have Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus in them. Yeah, anyways, Jack Thompson is a perfect example of someone who can't take blame, and feels better by pointing the finger.
There are just too many people with video games to consider that the cause. I mean really, how many people do you have the systems? How many people do you think are exposed to them? Just because they happen to own a video game, doesn't mean that it was the cause...
You can't say that people with blue shirts are more likely to be depressed because that COLOR is depressing -- there are just too many people that have that color shirt to make a difinitive answer and to say that THAT is the cause of their depression. There are obviously more factors.
Yeah, but remember, Jack Thompson will take just about any tragic act (EVEN the worst school shooting in U.S. history) and use it to push his own agenda. I think the word heartless kind of fits him.
Yes. He is a heartless man, and the fact he can do so without even the slightest hint of remorse is beyond me.
Ouch....
I saw this on the news
The killer was so sick and deranged...
But jack thompson was such a nasty jerk.
He's a total creep. He's such an insenitive jerk. Think of all those poor people who lost their loved ones on that horrible day. Why does every one blame video games for shooting tragedies?
That's like blaming black people for rapes... Like they did in the olden days by using blacks as a scape goat 8)
It seems that society always needs a scapgoat...
I play video games occasionally but im not violent.
Video games are fine aslong as you don't play them constantly and over do it with out taking a break.
Yes to a limited exent playing ultra violent videos games for hours on end can and does cause you to become more agressive, but only if you do it in the extreme.
Anyone who becomes violent because of media needs brain surgery.
People who copy everything they see should be kep away from all media , even saturday morning cartoons.
After all we wouldn't want them dropping anvils on innocent people
Quote from: saria returns. on May 05, 2007, 06:14:18 PM
That's like blaming black people for rapes... 8)
Amen.
He'll just take anything tragic and use it against his hatred for video games. It's as if he cares for nothing else than to destroy the entire video game industry. :-*
It seems as if Jack thompson has a personal grudge against gamers for some reason...
Jeeez what did gamers ever do to him...
Too much Video games can be a bad thing though. .... In fact hardcore anything is bad... Everything in moderation...But playing moderately is okay..