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Zelda Lore => Theories => Topic started by: Zelda Veteran on January 26, 2006, 03:06:11 PM

Title: wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 26, 2006, 03:06:11 PM
me and Pea-Tear-griffin were wondering... if link was the hero of TIME, than how did he die? and if he was sent back seven years at the end of ocarina of time, was ganondorf ever defeated? time makes my brain bleed... :-\
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Pea-Tear Griffin on January 26, 2006, 03:25:27 PM
ganondorf was beat Zelda made it where only he was still beat and only sent herself and link back...   i'v been looking it up
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 26, 2006, 06:42:08 PM
right! after link defeated ganon, that means that there would b no evil when zelda sent him back. so link still was the hero of time but did not know it after the journey! plus, do we know for certain link died? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: Pea-Tear Griffin on January 26, 2006, 06:45:03 PM
then y would he need a heir
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Post by: DarkZelda on January 26, 2006, 06:46:53 PM
good point. :P i just put that last statement for dramatics. but he does need a heir, and that is WW link.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Pea-Tear Griffin on January 26, 2006, 06:51:28 PM
yea i'm right about sumthing
jk
lol
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 26, 2006, 06:52:21 PM
lol
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 27, 2006, 02:10:36 PM
thats a monumental moment!

barry is infact right!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 30, 2006, 07:41:29 AM
DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WERE ALL GONA DIE! lol jk pea-tear griffin
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 30, 2006, 02:03:43 PM
lets stay on topic so that this topic doesent get locked... ::)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 30, 2006, 07:01:28 PM
ok.......

im pretty certain that oot link did die because he did not know he was the hero of time, so he did go through all that happend, because the deku tree (old one) was dead, so he did not call link to do the journey (2 b said in one breath)

whew... ;D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Pea-Tear Griffin on January 30, 2006, 07:22:40 PM
no b4 he meat Zelda the Deku tree called him 2 the journey so how could that b....

Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 31, 2006, 07:00:25 AM
I dont understand what the crap ur saying........(sry)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 31, 2006, 02:50:38 PM
You know what i just realized??? That little seedling tword the end of OoT... i think that is the deku tree in wind waker! i got to thinking, and realized the if the great deku tree died, then who the heck was the wind waker one?? So ive come to the stunning conclusion that the seedling is the new deku tree!!!!(bask in the glory of my genius) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Pea-Tear Griffin on January 31, 2006, 06:48:15 PM
u just found that out wow and ppl say i'm slow
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 31, 2006, 07:05:36 PM
lol sry zelda veteran, u are kinda slow..... i always assumed that the deku tree in WW was the seedling in OoT. never gave it much thought though
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 31, 2006, 07:07:33 PM
.........bask in my stupidity :(...................
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on January 31, 2006, 07:09:20 PM
its ok......lol  :D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 02, 2006, 12:44:44 AM
Quoteim pretty certain that oot link did die because he did not know he was the hero of time, so he did go through all that happend, because the deku tree (old one) was dead, so he did not call link to do the journey (2 b said in one breath)

He does die... OF OLD AGE. At least, at the moment, it's fan fiction to assume he died of anything else. And where did you get the idea that he can't remember being the Hero of Time. That just wouldn't make sense, as well as it contradicts facts. :-\
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 02, 2006, 07:07:46 AM
good point, but i assumed that he forgot because he was sent back in time, so everyting that happend he never knew did
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 02, 2006, 06:02:42 PM
if he never remembered it, then why would he look for navi, or have the memories of zelda come rushing back to him? o well, it is a theory, and this is the place to put em'...
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 02, 2006, 06:05:27 PM
because he had such a strong relationship with zelda and navi, he rememberd them, and im not sure navi is the friend link is looking 4 in MM
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Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 02, 2006, 06:07:13 PM
who else would it be? saria?......HEY! MABEY!! lol
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 02, 2006, 06:15:34 PM
if link was sent back 7 years, then saria would be safe and sound at the Kokiri Forest, right?
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 02, 2006, 06:34:58 PM
....(bask in my stupidity)............... :D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 02, 2006, 07:25:39 PM
lol could b ur famous last words....

but im serious, some people saw it was sskull kid, which does not make sense 2 me.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 03, 2006, 03:00:12 AM
According the intro, his friend left him when he finally fulfilled his destiny. Navi is the only one who leaves him when he finally fulfills his destiny. ;)

Besides, according the King of Red Lions, he was called away. Another reason to suspect Navi. He probably had dreams where he saw himself accompanied by a faerie and assumed it was Navi.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 06, 2006, 01:34:52 PM
that makes sense......wow! ::)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 06, 2006, 03:04:59 PM
lol. really, it may have been navi. but clarify this for me. did it say he was called away or she was called away? my best guess is navi, but i didnt get what evilslayer was trying to get across.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 07, 2006, 03:07:35 AM
The King of Red Lions said that the legendary hero was called away. ;)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 07, 2006, 10:55:55 AM
well navi is anything but a legendary hero ;D well, that dosent leave us with a lot of options, does it? Ill look it up and see what i can find.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 15, 2006, 05:23:32 PM
find anything? been a few days.....
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 15, 2006, 06:10:03 PM
No nothing...
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: DarkZelda on February 15, 2006, 06:17:23 PM
oh well........
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Marcamillian on February 17, 2006, 12:50:50 AM
My view on it is that at the end of OoT link is brought back in time, to the point where gannon entered the sacred relm. By unhanding the master sword link closed the sacred relm, thus trapping gannon inside. This would lend itself to my theroy on the timeline that LttP comes  after MM in the timeline (even though maps arnt exactly the same). The age would be kinda right aswel, link ends MM at 10 years old, 6 years later hes teh 16 year old link in LttP... who apparently found his uncle  ???
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 18, 2006, 11:43:38 AM
found info on some ww characters!:
1.laruto could have been a relation to ruto due to the fact they are both zoras and sages.
2.fado could have been a kokiri but there was no signs of him in oot.
3.komali has a crush on medli! oh,no....
4.jabun(fish hiding on outset from ganon)could be related to lord jabu-jabu in oot!
phew! i'm done!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 18, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
double post...
and there is a whole thread on the jabun/jabu-jabu in the other theories section on this site.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 18, 2006, 12:49:01 PM
oh,i've deleted the message
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 19, 2006, 12:21:53 PM
Quote6 years later hes teh 16 year old link in LttP... who apparently found his uncle

ALttP is many generations after the Sealing War, which happened during OoT. It's not possible that it's the same Link in ALttP.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 19, 2006, 12:35:46 PM
THERE ARE TOO MANY LINKS!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 20, 2006, 01:27:34 AM
http://verden.abcsok.no/index.html?q=link&cs=latin1 (http://verden.abcsok.no/index.html?q=link&cs=latin1)

400,000,000 hits. Yes, you're right. There's way too many links. :P

Sorry, I couldn't resist.^_^
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 20, 2006, 07:48:46 AM
why have you given me a non-english site? yes i am right!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 20, 2006, 05:59:40 PM
lol! i guess he thinks you took a class in forine languages!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 21, 2006, 02:07:20 AM
Quotewhy have you given me a non-english site? yes i am right!

Heh, I was just searching on Google. But, most of those links lead to English sites. ;)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 23, 2006, 07:15:18 AM
Well I've already made one good point and one joke around on the other topics (Kaepora Gaebora!? and Summat about Links Granny)  so I'll make what I believe to be another one. I believe that Fado is a decendant to Mido. If you watch the end of OoT at the party on Lon Lon Ranch then he and King Zora feel Left out as they watch the sages fly overhead. My theory is that these 2 become the ancestors of Fado and Laruto. I dont know why but there must be more evidence if you can be bovered to spend any time studying it.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 23, 2006, 10:22:55 AM
Sure it's likely. Mido is the capital of AoL Hyrule, and therefore I believe he was originally supposed to be the Sage in the Temple of Wind, which was left out of the final version of the game. All the other Sages (except Impa and Zelda, as they are characters in the game) are named after towns in AoL.

As for Laruto, I suppose she may be a descendant of Princess Ruto, although if Nintendo had included the two extra Temples in OoT she would have most likely been a descendant of Kasuto, the Sage of Ice.

Not only does the name sound Zolan (or Zoran, but I prefer the old school spelling), but his element is very close to water. And his town is the only town that doesn't appear as a name in OoT. So, I suppose that Kasuto would have been the Sage of Ice.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 23, 2006, 10:38:29 AM
Oh kool. Well Ruto is already a decendant of King Zora so that one seemed to fit more than the mido side of my theory
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 23, 2006, 11:29:50 AM
mido is a ugly bullying freak! >:(
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 23, 2006, 12:23:47 PM
He may be an ugly bullying freak but he still appears to be the ancestor of Fado, the Wind Sage. Plus Mido is alrite when you get to know him
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 24, 2006, 11:31:42 AM
But of all towns in AoL, why did they have to name him after the CAPITAL? :o I suppose it could be because of the importance of the Sky/Wind Temple. I've heard that the beta screenshot where Link gets the Triforce actually is in the Wind Temple.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 24, 2006, 11:56:05 AM
kool
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Marcamillian on February 24, 2006, 11:57:01 AM
sorry i forgot i posted in here.... evilslayer... i dont believe that OoT was the imprisoning war. Hardly a war.. a 10 year old boy against a middle aged man
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 24, 2006, 11:59:25 AM
you guys talk too much! i'm going to rest my brain! :-\
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 24, 2006, 11:59:41 AM
is it possable ganon is century's old?
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 24, 2006, 12:07:50 PM
Wrong. A host of invading Moblins against the defenders of Hyrule Castle. ;) That's the true Sealing War, according the Japanese manual. The Wise Men sealed the gate to the Dark World and stopped evil from flowing. That's where ALttP's explanation ends.

In OoT we see that, despite the Wise Men had succeeded, Ganon had already gathered too many minions and he overthrew the castle.

Also note that the Japanese version of the Sealing War doesn't say that the King commanded the Wise Men to seal the gate, so the fact that he was betrayed and possibly killed before the attack doesn't become a problem.

This is what I believe happens if OoT is the Sealing War. But it all depends on TP, if that game still allows ALttP to be between OoT and TWW.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 25, 2006, 08:51:38 AM
ganondorf is old.......very old.........really old :(
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: dan_the_man on February 25, 2006, 09:14:01 AM
if a new gurrudo king is born every hundred years- are they all evil - why do all the ganondorfs look the same?

and evilslayer, dont say that the game boy ones dont cos that is just cos graphics wouldnt let them
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 25, 2006, 09:52:29 AM
Is it the same ganon in WW and OoT???
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Davros on February 25, 2006, 10:51:39 AM
Wind waker gannon talks about being fully freed from the enprisonment in Wind waker because you pulled out the master sword, so it is almost certain to be the same man.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 25, 2006, 11:31:51 AM
Ahhhhh yes of coarse
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 25, 2006, 11:35:20 AM
ganondorf is an evil little(insert swear here) and he(insert bad thing here) that's why i hate him!lol
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 25, 2006, 11:42:18 AM
how could you hate a villain???? :-\
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 25, 2006, 11:45:13 AM
that's a stupid question......why would i hate a bad guy?oh,i dunno maybe coz THEY DESTROY YOUR LIFE AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sorry.....
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: dan_the_man on February 25, 2006, 01:16:12 PM
......anyways.....
regarding the ganondorf being the same guy:
o yeh 4got 'bout that.
but why was he green?
are all gurudo males green? or is ganondorf speacal (i no hes a deamon) , but are there evil gods oppersite to din etc and the godesses that created ganondorf?
was he made to take over hyrule or kill the Hero of Time and his decendants?
when ganondorf died in OoT , he swore revenge on links decendants - so shurely link in WW is in the Hero of Times blood line?
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on February 25, 2006, 01:30:09 PM
huh? your theory is too long....from wat i read i dunno why gerudo males are green maybe so it seperates them from females
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Post by: dan_the_man on February 25, 2006, 02:43:22 PM
i always thort that the gurudo male was the only source of carrying on the race , but a gosip stone in Oot says "They say that Gerudos sometimes come to Hyrule Castle Town to look for boyfriends."
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 25, 2006, 04:16:45 PM
like i said in the other topic...

Yes i read every Gossip stone in the game, and where in that paticular gossip stone does it say, Gerudos come to Hyrule town looking for gerudo boyfriends?? hmm? I rest my case  
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: dan_the_man on February 25, 2006, 05:19:35 PM
 ill tel yes where- in the castle!

on this site go to 'who would have thunk it' and thengo 2 gossip stone special- skrole down and weep
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 26, 2006, 12:48:10 AM
he ir right, a gossip stone does say that
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Post by: Davros on February 26, 2006, 02:01:27 AM
I'll second that. Perhaps not those exact words... but close enougth, a gossip stone tells you about it.
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 26, 2006, 03:06:39 AM
It is in them exact words I think ;)
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Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 27, 2006, 02:46:35 PM
no way! im on a role! i cant be wrong! check it in the game, and be honest.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Evilslayer on February 28, 2006, 03:52:05 AM
Quotebut why was he green?

He's not green in the game. ;)

Quoteand evilslayer, dont say that the game boy ones dont cos that is just cos graphics wouldnt let them

Huh? When did I mention the GB games? The only games I mentioned are for the SNES and N64. No, I refuse to call ALttP a GBA game. I'm a 100% pure old schooler. :P Well, maybe not entirely 100%. Then I'd dislike all new school games.
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: dan_the_man on February 28, 2006, 08:36:30 AM
i no ur full-on retro , so meby ull cal in one of the classics he wasnt green or sumthing - it was pre-emptive.

ganon IS green in Oot !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Ganondorf.jpg/200px-Ganondorf.jpg

AND windwaker

http://saria.coolfreepage.com/images/tww/ganondorf.jpg

see, cant prove me rong all the time  ;)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on February 28, 2006, 09:50:49 AM
He is infact green, but on the Gerudo sectiion of races and tribes they are described as tanned or Dark Olive colour, that's proberbly why, it's justthe graphics of the game make him look mor green than he is supposed to ;) ;)
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on March 02, 2006, 11:24:19 AM
i already know what he looks like!            
ganon  may not be green but i still hate him!!!!!!!
and yes,a gossip said in those exact words about the gerudos is in hyrule town market,in the group of gossip stones near the temple of time.
did you know:
if you bomb a gossip stone,it flashes blue then blasts off into the air?! ;D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on March 02, 2006, 02:16:09 PM
yeah I do that some times. If you hit it with the megaton hammer, it flattens like a pan cake!
If you slash it it will give you the time!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on March 03, 2006, 10:14:35 AM
i know,it's so wierd!
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 06, 2006, 10:25:29 AM
gossip stones are ace, they aint exactly important but itz fun to know all the sad, useless info lol
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Post by: medli on March 12, 2006, 07:26:50 AM
lol it's more fun to hit em wid a hammer! ;D
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 12, 2006, 08:48:46 AM
lol. Do the gossip stones belong to the Sheikah, I can't remember :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: dan_the_man on March 14, 2006, 11:45:48 AM
i think that they were origional made by the sheilkah
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 14, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
oh kool, i remember now they have the sheikah sybol on them. That must mean that the mask of truth is the sheikah mask, cause u get Zoras, Gorons and Gerudos
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: medli on March 17, 2006, 08:54:51 AM
i like the gerudo mask ;)
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 17, 2006, 10:49:39 AM
yea the Gerudo mask is the best, but i also like the goron  mask
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Post by: dan_the_man on March 17, 2006, 12:39:43 PM
zora mask rocks! you get to swim and dive and jump out the water like a dolphin!
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 17, 2006, 12:46:15 PM
we talkin bout the bog standard, boring OoT masks lol, but yes zora mask is best in MM
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Post by: medli on March 17, 2006, 12:48:13 PM
all masks are beautiful in their own wierd way! ;)
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 17, 2006, 12:48:45 PM
lol, i suppose so
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Post by: medli on March 17, 2006, 12:50:14 PM
 ;D :-*
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Post by: Shadow Ganon on March 17, 2006, 12:56:10 PM
lol :-*
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Post by: medli on March 17, 2006, 01:00:14 PM
 ;D :D ;) :-*
Title: Re:wait a minute...
Post by: The Postman on March 25, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
.......Psst we need to get back on Topic
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Post by: medli on March 30, 2006, 07:28:09 AM
oh right,right!......um,what was the topic? ;D