[Before you read this, I want to tell you, I don't wan't a flame war! Don't read if you might get offended!]
I'm just kinda wondering, why the heck are so many people here Naruto fans? I think the show is ok, but it's not my favorite anime! (If I want some real anime, I'll just watch some Mobile Suit Gundam! ;D) Why is every other screen name I see something I can't pronounce? Come on, someone rant with me!
Doctor's note: I changed the title since the question was answered and we began a anime discussion
Ah, well, I wondered that too. XDD Even I couldn't pronounce the names. XDD The only two I had trouble with was Sasuke and Akatsuki. You may think it's Sas-oo-kay, but it's Sas-kay, and Akatsuki, you'd think it's Ak-at-soo-key, but it's Ak-at-skee. (Actually, I'm not sure on that one... lol.)
Well, Naruto is the most popular manga in America, because just about very other major anime in Japan (Bleach and One Piece, for example) is shown at a bad time or are ruined by 4KIDS. Naruto is still very good, however.
Because Gundam is wierd. Seriously. Giant robots? I personally perfer ninjas. Because wrecking your giant robot isn't as deadly as being killed.
Well, Big O was a good series about with Giant Robots. Too bad I never saw the ending. :'(
But Gundam just doesn't look very interesting to me. It's action is rather low due to the robot thing. I prefer ones that have very large amount of action in the fights, like Naruto and Bleach.
Loveless still owns all of you.
I mean... ninjas, pirates, mecha... I prefer my kitty boys who don't attempt to save the world.
Of course, I'm not off an changing my name to Aoyagi Ritsuka or Seven, either. I'm just not that type of fan. I'm a hypocrite.
What's loveless (not technically off topic)?
A) In Naruto, they're simply trying to follow their own dreams and goals. Naruto only wnats to live and become village champion (the Hokage), Sasuke wants to kill his brother, Sakura wants Sasuke, Kakashi is basically a perv, Shikamaru wants to protect the next generation, Lee wants to become a splendid ninja, Orochimaru wants Sasuke (weird), and all the other characters have goals too.
B) Okay, think about it, Pirates trying to save the world.... Yeah..... Although the main characters aren't very bad pirates like others.
Quote from: Whocares on June 12, 2007, 04:44:39 PM
Well, Naruto is the most popular manga in America, because just about very other major anime in Japan (Bleach and One Piece, for example) is shown at a bad time or are ruined by 4KIDS. Naruto is still very good, however.
May I remind you guys that this
is a Zelda forum, and if I were to get an account on, oh, let's say, a Sonic the Hedgehog website, I'd name myself after a Sonic character, not Vaati. Either that, or just use my nickname, which doesn't have to do with Zelda or Sonic. Also, the Naruto topics have been bugging me as well, I know they are in General Discussion and Chatboard, but this is still a Zelda forum! Go to a Naruto forum and talk about Naruto there! If Naruto is as popular an anime as you say it is, there's bound to be at least a few forums about it! Every time kids at my school ask me if I like Naruto, I always have to answer, "No, but I'd probably like it better if the people on TDC wouldn't talk about it so d**n much!"
Quote from: Sasuke Uchiha on June 12, 2007, 04:54:49 PM
What's loveless (not technically off topic)?
Loveless is a show where the main protagonist is a 12 year old boy named Aoyagi Ritsuka with a dead brother. He's a transfer student to a new school, where he meets Yuiko, who later becomes his friend. He meets with a mysterious man named Soubi, who claims he was Seimei's (dead brother) fighter unit and was told to find Ritsuka.
...It's really hard to explain without giving away anything. But pretty much, Ritsuka is trying to find out who killed his brother and why.
It's implied boy love in the anime, and boy love in the manga. Nothing too serious, just kisses and stuff. ...So far, in the manga, at least. There's also a lesbian couple in both the show and the manga.
I suggest you watch it, it's really awesome. :D
Never heard of it, but the part you were talking about sounds like Sasuke to me.
QuoteMay I remind you guys that this is a Zelda forum, and if I were to get an account on, oh, let's say, a Sonic the Hedgehog website, I'd name myself after a Sonic character, not Vaati. Either that, or just use my nickname, which doesn't have to do with Zelda or Sonic. Also, the Naruto topics have been bugging me as well, I know they are in General Discussion and Chatboard, but this is still a Zelda forum! Go to a Naruto forum and talk about Naruto there! If Naruto is as popular an anime as you say it is, there's bound to be at least a few forums about it! Every time kids at my school ask me if I like Naruto, I always have to answer, "No, but I'd probably like it better if the people on TDC wouldn't talk about it so d**n much!"
Good idea, changed meh name.
Quote from: Link Ordan on June 12, 2007, 05:05:30 PM
Never heard of it, but the part you were talking about sounds like Sasuke to me.
...Um, no, he's not really like Sasuke very much. He smiles a lot more and stuff. Though he does act like Sasuke in the first episode a little... XD
Truer words were never spoken, Vaati.
Seriously, even if they admit to the contrary, they STILL think Naruto is 't3h 1337!!!111
'most popular' doesn't mean the best. It just means that it's way, way, way overrated; ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
It's popular because it's generic. If you don't believe me, try asking on any other forum that's based around anime without Naruto or One Piece as a center.
Going with 'what's popular' just shows that you have very little real taste.
Its the best because its the best thing I can watch.
Try finding friends with DVD of animes other than Naruto. Stuff like Escaflowne, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Ghost in the Shell are just a few great things that are so much better than the stereotypical and nauseating 'save the world' formula. Those are CLASSICS and deserve to be watched over and over again, because they were REAL.
Anime and manga have a broad scope of genres, ideas, and concepts. The Save-the-world formula is just lame, because Naruto, One Piece, and Dragon Ball all end up being the same. Who wants to watch hundreds of episodes of an anime with the same old characcters? I for one, don't. I prefer the experimentals, because those are the REALLY enjoyable things about anime/manga.
Try Nausicaa as well, originally started as a manga, and the content goes quite in-depth. Also, it's by Hiyao Miyazaki, all 7 volumes. The only manga that I know of that was made by him. Here's an interview (http://www.comicbox.co.jp/e-nau/e-nau.html) of interest for those who want the master's opinion on how anime has become crappy.
Another Interview (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/aboutanime.html)
Personal tastes differ between people, JQ. I thought Ghost in the Shell was quite boring, actually, and couldn't get into it. On the other hand, I liked Big O (which disproves you saying I don't watch animes below 100 episodes) And Naruto doesn't ahve a save the world formula! The only characters that care at all about the entire world are the Akatsuki, who are trying to take over the world (and the other characters don't know that at all, so they aren't trying to save the world). They are simply fighting because they don't want Akatsuki to kill them, for information, and because Akatsuki has done many bad things to characters (Orochimaru and Sasuke, for example).
I like animes and mangas for what they are, not length. Basically the only point you even give for why you think Naruto sucks is length, and if that's all you can think of then I see no reason to even argue with you about Naruto anymore. One Piece and Naruto have very good plots and several good characters. (More so for Naruto)
Another good long series: Case Closed. It has many plot twists and so many different characters for something that long, you'd have thought that more than one person was writing it. JQ, despite being long, I know you'd love it, because it is a mystery manga, and it requires a developed mind to know what's going on, which fits you very perfectly.
And once again, I say I have watched a short anime before: Big O. I don't know the ending, however. Reveal how it ends, any of you, and I kill you. >:(
That's not the only point I made on Naruto. It's also quite bland. The thing is that it doesn't feel real anymore, because it doesn't seem to be anything of worth; it's the same old story where Hero A has missing/dead parents and finds that he has a 'power' and goes on a quest where there are lots of fights and pointless banter. That type of crap no longer appeals to me.
Ghost in the Shell would appeal mainly to those whom are more mature in how they think about the world. Similar thing for Akira and Nausicaa. Such things are not shonen; they are Seinen
From Wikipedia
QuoteSeinen (青年, Seinen? not to be confused with "adult" (成年, seinen?)) is a subset of manga that is generally targeted at an 18–30 year old male audience, but the audience can be much older with some comics aimed at businessmen well into their 40s. it has a wide variety of art styles and more variation in subject matter
Quote from: Link Ordan on June 12, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
Because Gundam is wierd. Seriously. Giant robots? I personally perfer ninjas. Because wrecking your giant robot isn't as deadly as being killed.
Dude, if you've if you've ever watched Gundam, they're in all out war! It's not if you're mech is destroyed, you lose the fight or whatever! You die! Besides, there's more to it than giant robots, there is alot of drama and junk in it to!
i have no trouble.
Quote from: Zoratunic on June 12, 2007, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Link Ordan on June 12, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
Because Gundam is wierd. Seriously. Giant robots? I personally perfer ninjas. Because wrecking your giant robot isn't as deadly as being killed.
Dude, if you've if you've ever watched Gundam, they're in all out war! It's not if you're mech is destroyed, you lose the fight or whatever! You die! Besides, there's more to it than giant robots, there is alot of drama and junk in it to!
Wars suck. In real life and generally in fiction too. Especially if it is an all out war and not a secret one.
QuotePersonal tastes differ between people, JQ.
Quoted for the truth.
And yet, almost everyone's tastes seem the same. The shonen market consists of like, 90% of all anime and mangas. Especially of the variety like One Piece and Naruto. So in reality, there isn't much in the way of 'personal' taste, because 90% of people end up having the same taste.
One piece is awful, Naruto is good. End of story.
Naruto is waaaaaay overrated. NINJA SKOOL! OMFG!
btw... Paging Aaron Schwartz! Bzzziiing!
Umm... You obviously haven't even seen it. Ninja school?
my answer is because naruto rocks and gundam killed itself after the first season
Quote from: Happytime Harley on June 12, 2007, 07:34:19 PM
Naruto is waaaaaay overrated. NINJA SKOOL! OMFG!
btw... Paging Aaron Schwartz! Bzzziiing!
Erm, try to make your posts a little more... respectable. I think we all know what that "F" stands for, don't we?
Eh, whatever. Only when he explicitly spells out the word does it merit a warning...
Anyway!
Is Naruto even WORTH watching? Hiyao Miyazaki made some EXCELLENT points on the corruption of Japanese anime in this interview, long as it is.
http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/aboutanime.html
I find that a lot of the people who don't like naruto are the people who lack the patience, and understanding to watch it.
It's not the patience or the understanding. It's tolerance, or lack thereof. One can only take so much anime that shares so many similarities with other anime.
We want stuff that's fresh, new, and above all else, ORIGINAL! We want atmosphere. I beg of you, read that article, if you don't ahve the time to, just read the last part to it, at the very end "Conclusion"
when wasnt naruto original?? i dont see any other ninja animes out there
I'm talking about the overall design. You could also make the point that One Piece was 'original' because it was about pirates. But that doesn't really change anything because they're both oversized and contrived, and based off of the overall same ideas like big adventure with hundreds of characters, only 10% of which get development.
Just because it's about Ninja's doesn't make it any different from other anime that used similar formula. Stuff like Shaman King, One Piece, and Dragon Ball. Watch only one and you'll have seen them all. They're THAT similar in construction and plot design. The setting hardly matters because it's just the same old crap getting reused.
Agreed. XD
QuoteI find that a lot of the people who don't like naruto are the people who lack the patience, and understanding to watch it.
Yeah, my dad doesn't watch Fruits Basket with us because he "can't understand it" even though there are subs RIGHT ON THE SCREEN!!
"Understanding something" means to get the idea of something, not necessarily being able to read or hear what they're saying. Rather, an understanding of how the anime works, the relationships, the reasons behind the idea; etc, etc. The point is, he's a dude, and dudes aren't ones for Fruits Basket.
Quote from: Gendo Ikari on June 13, 2007, 12:01:42 AM
I'm talking about the overall design. You could also make the point that One Piece was 'original' because it was about pirates. But that doesn't really change anything because they're both oversized and contrived, and based off of the overall same ideas like big adventure with hundreds of characters, only 10% of which get development.
Just because it's about Ninja's doesn't make it any different from other anime that used similar formula. Stuff like Shaman King, One Piece, and Dragon Ball. Watch only one and you'll have seen them all. They're THAT similar in construction and plot design. The setting hardly matters because it's just the same old crap getting reused.
You keep saying that but you haven't given one example.
Quote from: Gendo Ikari on June 12, 2007, 05:58:27 PM
Ghost in the Shell would appeal mainly to those whom are more mature in how they think about the world. Similar thing for Akira and Nausicaa. Such things are not shonen; they are Seinen
QuoteSeinen (青年, Seinen? not to be confused with "adult" (成年, seinen?)) is a subset of manga that is generally targeted at an 18–30 year old male audience, but the audience can be much older with some comics aimed at businessmen well into their 40s. it has a wide variety of art styles and more variation in subject matter
Sorry I just have to say, just because something is Seinen doesn't mean it is mature.
I once got a seinen manga from the library and had to throw it away after three pages, but then I had to go and get it because I remembered it was a library book. It was AWFUL.
That said I love Akira, I'm just saying, Seinen doesn't equal mature.
But then agin I'm not an old man.
Not all manga is good. Every single genre has its garbage and outright Bulls***. You just gotta know what to pick and what is actually good and what isn't. Shonen is such a limiting thing, here'se no real character exploration there. Always the same sob story about 'friends'. Hah... Wait until you're older and life will be like deciding between the gun or the drink.
I want characters that actually feel human. That explore all the human things, feelings, conditions, realities...
Cyberpunk. You should try cyberpunk. Hah. My gun to my drink.
I don't know why I love Naruto, I just do.
It
It made me love Anime. I agree with your point about the basic plot of hero and friends, but that wont stop me loving it. ^^
But I think the character's are very well developed.
My favourite manga is still Fushigi Yugi though.
Hah... Everyone loves the first thing of a certain genre that they come into contact with, with a few exceptions.
Rurouni Kenshin is the first true manga I ever read.
Hah... What I don't like is that it's inspiring even MORE garbage. Garbage that's even more decripit of character development or follows the same old patterns without anything new. Once you see all that, it gets tiring very quickly.
Yeah I guess, in general I don't like manga/anime like Naruto they just don't sound exciting, yet I still love Naruto. Maybe if it wasn't my first anime I wouldn't like it.
Darth Wyndisis: So sooooooorry to interrupt! I hope that word doesn't hurt you.
Anyways, why Naruto? There's better anime out there. Hell, I haven't seen any of it, but I know it's out there. In the between time, just get some Fullmetal Alchemists DVD's, PLEASE.
NINJA SKOOL!!! = an inside joke between Dr. Rabies and one of the moderators on this forum. I'm actually more important than you all.
...up, up, and away!
The anime business has corrupted. It was corrupt twenty years ago, and it's still corrupt today. What with people everywhere going for marketing and looking to make a cheap buck.
Why is anime no longer pure?
But then again, I guess you could say that it was always somewhat impure. But there are rare instances of inspiration where it's actually... right.
Quote from: Gendo Ikari on June 13, 2007, 09:04:30 AM
The point is, he's a dude, and dudes aren't ones for Fruits Basket.
Well my brother watches it.
Well Naruto is one of my favorites, but not THE favorite. The few of you who saw my old topic reviewing the episodes of Naruto (I'll probably get back to that soon; summer is pretty long) would probably see that it is pretty good anime/manga in general. But I would have to say that Fullmetal Alchemist is either just as good or better.
FMA has a lot more depth and just a little more emotion, and is a lot more serious. In the chasing the Sound nin for Sasuke arc neither Shikamaru, Chouji, Naruto, Kiba, or Neji died, even though the came pretty darn close to it. In FMA you have people dying left and right (okay, maybe an exaggeration, but you get the picture) but with meaning. I was a bit depressed when Hughes (for those who don't know, one of the sorta main characters in Roy's military group) died, but it had a lot of meaning to it.
(Hughes' funeral was so darn touching I swear I sniffed a bit :'()
I've also realized that my obssession for Naruto has sort of gone down. It could just because the fillers are killing me slowly (I'm on episode 190, almost there!) but I bet I'll get into it again once I make it to Shippuden.
I think the Naruto craze in America will die away slowly too when (and I sorta wish they would and sorta wish they wouldn't) they start on the fillers. The fillers are so darn (I have to say darn, since other words aren't exactly as appropriate on here, right?) repetitive that Naruto will become *gasp* boring! Which is sort of good. And bad. But maybe more good? (Honestly, I'm tired of seeing little Narunoobs running around!).
So yeah.... to summarize my short rant, I say Naruto is good but not the best.
This is basically what the topic was originally about: how 'Naruto is good but not great, and my confusion on why every other person has a Naruto name.
So, its the only thing good available, so its the best for me.
i can see what you mean gendo, there are too many ninja on naruto that are undeveloped
and link im assuming you never saw rironi kenshin or yu-yu-hakusho, those were great animes
JQ, you might be able to get some of us into other animes, but you can't change our minds that Naruto is good. Also...
A) Shaman King is one of Shonen Jump's least most popular mangas that are, as you describe them, "over-lengthed". I used to be a fan, but I quickly got over it after Faust was removed.
B) All of what you say is pure opinion. None of what you say is fact. The only reason at all you've given us for hating Naruto is "...!!! ZOMG!!! It's That Long!! It Can't Be Any Good!!!!!...." and unless you given any other reason within your next post I refuse to so much as listen to your argument anymore, because plain old hating it for length is just stupid. I bet you've never even watched an episode of Naruto before, and if you have over 50 episodes. If not, you have no experience with it besides a small number of episodes or no episodes at all, and therefore your decision is as hastily made as my actions are.
It pains me to say it, but Whocares has a point.
Isn't that a sign of the end of the world? :-[
No, even worse--that's a sign that the Cardinals are going to win the Super Bowl.
ZING!
You know, I only complained of over-sized anime. Ruroken was 28 volumes; I'm not complaining of that. You know, something was similar with the whole Dragon Ball franchise. There are almost as many episodes of that as there are in ALL the Star Trek series combined! That's just silly...
Long Manga can be good. It's over-sized anime that tends to be carbon-copied of the original that isn't. It's anime I'm making a complaint of.
...... Gee, thank you for further proving my point, JQ. :P
Okay, now I'm not even paying attention to this argument anymore. Goodbye. :)
if i may interject
Z0MG!!!
JQ said his problem with naruto was there were millions of undeveloped characters
Just about half of all the anime ever made have a number of undeveloped characters. The most notable isn't Naruto, but One Piece. They have a ba-billion characters in that show and most of them have very little development. And only a few of the characters are recurring at all, basically:
All main characters
Blackbeard
Red haired Shanks
Portgas D. Ace
Whitebeard
Gol D. Roger
Monkey D. Dragon
Captain Smoker
Aokiji
Monkey D. Garp
Buggy the Clown
Nefertari Vivi
Dracule "Hawkeye" Mihawk
and then the rest only have a few moments for themselves and go bye-bye. Don't even get me started on Yugioh and Bleach either.
You forgot Dragon Ball.
You know that guy that used to be in your sig, Whocares? I never got his story or much development out of him.
Quote from: Dr. Rabies on June 14, 2007, 04:32:16 PM
i can see what you mean gendo, there are too many ninja on naruto that are undeveloped
and link im assuming you never saw rironi kenshin or yu-yu-hakusho, those were great animes
I saw Yu-yu-hakusho, or some of it, yes it was an awesome anime. I miss it. They stopped making it at the climax with the fight in the tournament with the big muscular dude.
They didn't stop making it, they probably just stopped showing it. You just have to find the DVD's so you can watch the end of the anime.
Quote from: Link Ordan on June 16, 2007, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: Dr. Rabies on June 14, 2007, 04:32:16 PM
i can see what you mean gendo, there are too many ninja on naruto that are undeveloped
and link im assuming you never saw rironi kenshin or yu-yu-hakusho, those were great animes
I saw Yu-yu-hakusho, or some of it, yes it was an awesome anime. I miss it. They stopped making it at the climax with the fight in the tournament with the big muscular dude.
yes, the dark tournament was my favorite part of the anime
If you mean the guy I had before with the white hair, then his history is revealed much later in the series and he arguably becomes one of the more important captians.If you mean the guy in the top hat, then he only appeared for about an episode but was still popular among fans of MAR. If you mean the guy I had when you joined, then the series really never did alot with him.
I don't think you even remember who was in your avatar/sig when I joined. WHich was, oh say... about 10 and half months ago.
I meant the WHITE HAIR.
Kabuto Yakushi?
He actually has a lot of character development and backround. He has also recently implanted the remains of his deceased master (Orochimaru) inside of his body.
I meant the white hair from BLEACH...
Toshiro Hitsugaya? I already said him. I never had him as my avy before until recently. That was Kabuto Yakushi from Naruto you must be thinking of.
I think I'm gonna start watching Naruto so I know what you guys are talking about, but not sure what channel or when it comes on.
It comes on Cartoon Network on Saturdays. At uh... some time. Some time between like... seven and ten. (Central time, of course.) I wouldn't know, I don't watch TV much.
saturday cartoon network 8:30 to 9 pm
Alright, thanks for that mr mod sir. :D
That would be 7:30-8:00 PM Central for Jdog... I think.
uh, yeah, probably, do they play replays during the week? or what? :-\
Sometiimes I see it in the afternoon on weekdays. Not sure what time though.
Sometimes between 4:00 and 6:00, I think. It's definetly not before 4:00. Mabye it starts at 6:00.
Westerner.
Central time(HIGH FIVE, Fisk) its on at 7:30 and then a new episode at 8.
If I can just, you know, weight in here...
QuoteRurouni Kenshin is the first true manga I ever read.
I agree to this entirely. I read the entire series of Rurouni Kenshin. Then I read two volumes of Naruto. Nonetheless, Naruto was absolute garbage compared to RK and is absolute garbage compared to Death Note (another good manga).
You only read two volumes, and they were probably from the part where Zabuza was still alive (the worst part of the series). Just wait until volume 6 and things start moving. The only bad side is the Orochimaru is introduced, and he's..... yeah......
OH, also for the record on manga and anime... boy love (yaoi) manga is NOT deep or emotional (ie, Loveless or any other crap) It really isn't. I've heard alot about it at school, and it seems to be nothing more than some stupid voumes to get fangirls... "aroused." It's ridiculous. And I speak from experience. In fact, the only girl oriented manga i've ever found to be not all about gay sex entirely was Ouran High School Host Club. And even that had a little in it. At least that was alittle more deep...
As for Narutoo, well, I don't know, it just seemed kind of bland. Maybe I'll read the rest one day. And Whocares, I truly encourage you to read Rurouni Kenshin.
RK is great, I love it. Great story and interesting characters. Naruto is also very good, although the fanboyism is really starting to annoy me. Yaoi? No. Anybody brings it up on this site, I'm going Super Saiyan on them.
Well, at least Yaoi is better and more mature than its counterpart, YURI.
And Loveless isn't Yaoi; it's Shonen-ai... A genre, which I believe as a rule, does NOT include sex scenes.
But I like Shojo anyway, heheh... Card Captor Sakura! Even though parts would seem a little O.o, it's still a VERY good anime/manga series, by the all-female team CLAMP.
Also... Angel Sanctuary, try that at least for a moment... For the more mature crowd, from what I've heard about it...
Fanboyism pisses me off to no end.
And any Yaoi, and I'll go crazy on them with you, Shika.
Quote from: Gendo Ikari on June 18, 2007, 04:47:17 PM
Well, at least Yaoi is better and more mature than its counterpart, YURI.
And Loveless isn't Yaoi; it's Shonen-ai... A genre, which I believe as a rule, does NOT include sex scenes.
But I like Shojo anyway, heheh... Card Captor Sakura! Even though parts would seem a little O.o, it's still a VERY good anime/manga series, by the all-female team CLAMP.
Also... Angel Sanctuary, try that at least for a moment... For the more mature crowd, from what I've heard about it...
I miss Card Captor Sakura too. I also miss my Zoids.
ah yes zoids
but as i always must bring up in an anime discussion...
TRINITY BLOOD!
I loved Zoids...used to watch it every morning before school...
Uh... Loveless is pretty deep. It's shallow to say that all manga/anime from a certain genre are crap. Yes, a lot of yaoi manga are made to arouse. Shounen-ai is deeper and not as hardcore. It's mostly kisses or hugs, and... I dunno, it doesn't seem like something to get aroused over.
Though... I hate it when people make really awkward pairings, especially shounen-ai pairings. (I saw Epona turned male and human and Link. Ugh... -shudder-)
In the 'american' 'dub' of Cardcaptors, all the ahem... stuff relating to any type of love was edited out... And hence, a lot of plot with it, the characters, leaving a lot of plot holes, and the thing as a whole... VERY much watered down. In the original, it is no exaggeration to say that everyone was in love with everyone else... Heh... Ten year old Sakura had a crush that was the centerpoint of the first season of the anime and...
I blame Melvana for destroying Card Captor Sakura. It is NOT a show for teenaged males. It was a show for ahem... girls.
I read the first volume of Rurouni Kenshin and didn't like it. I know everyone disagrees but I thought it was dull. It probably gets better but the first volume gave me no reason to keep reading.
And I agree with Fisk, you cant judge say it's awful because I am sure you haven't read all the shounen-ai out there. Loveless is very deep, it's got a great story in my opinion.
Just because you say something is bad, it doesn't mean it is. It's an opinion, not fact.
To be honest, I was a bit slow on the first volume. But hey, it's better than the FANBOYISM of a certain other anime.
I haven't brought it up, but we're waaaay off topic.
Well, we can't really move back to the original idea of the topic, as the question and debates have already been answered. So we're moving on to discussing the course of anime in general.
then just change the topic to anime discussion, infact, i wanna change it!!!!!
changed it
and i must reitterate this:
TRINITY BLOOD
that is all
The only fanboy/fangirl in this entire site for Naruto is SGN, and that has already been established.
I'm a fangirl of Zelda, it just goes unnoticed being on Zelda forums.
... oh wait, you said for Naruto. XD; Oops.
im a big fan of naruto, i wouldnt go the extent of calling myself a fanboy though
The way I see it, a fanboy or fangirl is someone who goes around saying Naruto is the best, and constantly talks about their favorite character, and is basically obsessed. They usually can't defend themselves in a discussion about it though as they don't really analyze it and in most cases don't even watch or read it all, just the parts with their favorite characters. (If I hear one more person say 'cuddles' and 'Gaara' in the same sentence, I'm going to push the explode button)
You realize that
A) you put both of them in the same sentence
and
B) The pretty much sums up all of Naruto that SNG watched.
Well, I don't know... I was maybe contemplating or sorta thinking about reading Loveless.. despite that fact I'd look gay, but I also don't care... should I?
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on June 19, 2007, 01:03:33 PM
The way I see it, a fanboy or fangirl is someone who goes around saying Naruto is the best, and constantly talks about their favorite character, and is basically obsessed. They usually can't defend themselves in a discussion about it though as they don't really analyze it and in most cases don't even watch or read it all, just the parts with their favorite characters. (If I hear one more person say 'cuddles' and 'Gaara' in the same sentence, I'm going to push the explode button)
DON'T SAY THAT! NARUTO IS T3H R0XX0RZ!!!!!11
I guess that's along the lines of what you were saying?
Yes, thats what he meant :P
And it pisses me off, cause half the time the person isnt even a real fan.
Nick, you SHOULD read Loveless
It is awesome <3
And a lot of people who like naruto arent real anime fans. Posers. But not everyone is :)
Yup you should read it!
I wish more people at my school liked anime at all, even if they were posers.
But it's okay now, I talk to my friend's chinese exchange student about it!
Thats true ;)
It would be lonely if I was the only one in my school who loved anime.
Big O was also a very good series.
I heard of Big O but never watched it. I heard it was good. :D
It's really good! And it also helps disprove JQ's theory that I never watched an anime less than 100 episodes. I never finished the series, however. :(
Thats alright! I have a few series that I've never finished ;)
Maybe I'll pick it up. XP
Quote from: x*Twilight Zelda*x on June 21, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
Yup you should read it!
Get in touch with my female side?!
Fine... :P
I watched Loveless on a four hour computer class trip. (Yay for laptops!) My friend Ben wanted to watch it 'cause the plotline was interesting, and I wanted to 'cause.... hell, it's Loveless.
By the end of the trip, half the males on the bus were watching it. XD So, you see, you shouldn't feel gay.
"Hey, I'm not afraid to admit I like Cooshy Cooshy Goo-goo AND Skull-squisher!"
If more men watched loveless, the world would be a better place <3
I've already gotten in touch with my feminine side... WITH CARD CAPTOR SAKURA!
Quote from: Gendo Ikari on June 21, 2007, 06:55:30 PM
I've already gotten in touch with my feminine side... WITH CARD CAPTOR SAKURA!
I know XP
It's nice to see one guy getting in touch with his feminine side! *glomps* ;D
Quote from: PokéKey on June 21, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: x*Twilight Zelda*x on June 21, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
Yup you should read it!
Get in touch with my female side?!
Fine... :P
Being in touch with your feminine side is good. Girls like sensitive guys. Or so I heard. It's not like that around here anyways. ::)
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on June 21, 2007, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: PokéKey on June 21, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: x*Twilight Zelda*x on June 21, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
Yup you should read it!
Get in touch with my female side?!
Fine... :P
Being in touch with your feminine side is good. Girls like sensitive guys. Or so I heard. It's not like that around here anyways. ::)
You have heard correct, Shikimaru-san! :)
Quote from: DelicateMaiden on June 21, 2007, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on June 21, 2007, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: PokéKey on June 21, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: x*Twilight Zelda*x on June 21, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
Yup you should read it!
Get in touch with my female side?!
Fine... :P
Being in touch with your feminine side is good. Girls like sensitive guys. Or so I heard. It's not like that around here anyways. ::)
You have heard correct, Shikimaru-san! :)
now if I only saw it with my own eyes...
Sorry to burst your bubble, hun. If you live in the south, then you're by definition, screwed. Mainly because Girls here are more 'attracted' to football players and man-whores/druggies. I kid you not.
*raises hand* and NASCAR drivers. Yeah. All 'bout the racing.
Maybe that's why we have women trouble? We're unlucky enough to be born in the south, where anime and civilization in general is devoid of existence.
eh, in the north its pretty much the same
You all sound awesome though! I'm suprised you dont have girlfriends or someone you love!
I'm from the North, so I suppose I dont know what those southern girls would want. -__-
I'm in the North, and actually have a girlfriend. Our one week anniversary is tomorrow, and I haven't seen her since I asked her out ;)she's on vacation...anyways, we're getting off topic.
So what is the general gist of Loveless? I may be interested..
Loveless is GODLY!
<33333 It's all about defying your destiny!
...So they all commit suicide or something? That seems a surefire way to make sure you don't carry out your destiny.
Ah ha! Nope!
But that is a good idea, if they wanted the easy way out.
Trust and betrayl, angst and hope, and great art! What more could someone want?
Hmm...does Chuck Norris ever guest star in it? ;D
I dont think so ;)
Well, that's what more I wanted. Seems pointless to me now. :P
I understand :'(
I'm just joking, I'll still look into it.
Yaaaaaaay! ;D Thats very very good ^_^
C-C-C-C-CONVO BREAKAH!!!!!
im debating warning you both, i probably wont though...
BoT
Quote from: Dr. Rabies on June 22, 2007, 09:09:13 AM
C-C-C-C-CONVO BREAKAH!!!!!\
I dont know why, but that made me crack up for no good reason. :P :P ;D
And I was convinced (mainly by my own mind) to read Loveless. I mean, really, why not.
But if I get any more sensitive I'll turn to mush. o_o
Hey it was quoted so that first comment was already there and it had the word "anime" in it. jk i understand what you mean though
wrong topic rinku