I've noticed that people are using the word @** more than usual around here. I won't give any names (I really don't need to), but starting here and now, it needs to stop. I feel that I've been quite lenient regarding that word; however, starting now, I'm kicking it up a notch.
I'm giving every member of TDC this warning: if you use that word, or any other word considered taboo around here, you will be warned for it, given that you've been a member here for at least a week. No exceptions.
I say this mainly because whenever someone uses these words, I'm worried that if I warn him or her, I'll be treating him or her unfairly. But now I've warned you all with this topic, so that's all the mini-warning you need. I'll let Gamefreak make any necessary changes to this method if he sees it fit.
This is no longer policy. Disregard it.
A bit angry, but the point is clear.
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
No, not at all. It was an issue that needed addressing.
That was a questionable call for me as well, but I'll just listen to Mags on this one.
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 11, 2007, 06:49:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
Yes, yes you did. Tone down the angst. Seriously.
Here's a warning to you- much more of this anger may make the forums seem a hostile place. If the forums aren't enjoyable, your rules don't matter, since you won't have anyone to impose them on.
Now, the thing is... I'm assuming this refers to ass. The UK equivalent here is arse. Would that count? (also, given the UK use of arse, it barely seems worthy of a warning.)
The way you enforce this seems a little strange, honestly. There's a huge gap between, say:
"I'm sorry I was such an (word in question)"
and
"Man, I'd tap that (word in question)"
However, both are equally punished. Just because children join these forums doesn't meant that we do not have the right to speak freely without using s e v e r e language, and I wouldn't consider 'ass' to be a severe vulgarity.
So, think more about this. It's not necessarily a horrible word, unless used in the wrong context (or with a few certain suffixes).
Quote from: The End on September 13, 2007, 12:46:58 PM
The way you enforce this seems a little strange, honestly. There's a huge gap between, say:
"I'm sorry I was such an (word in question)"
and
"Man, I'd tap that (word in question)"
However, both are equally punished. Just because children join these forums doesn't meant that we do not have the right to speak freely without using s e v e r e language, and I wouldn't consider 'ass' to be a severe vulgarity.
So, think more about this. It's not necessarily a horrible word, unless used in the wrong context (or with a few certain suffixes).
warning! just kidding
i see your point though, which is why we are allowed to say damn and hell, but that word is an insult in itself, so it is warnable
I have to agree with Tacheon Black here. It's a bit... much for this. I wouldn't give a warning for every single swear, what would the point be? The thing is that context and judgment have to be used. So that means you have to think critically of the act 'is it really so offensive to be warnable?' instead of being a totalitarian and give punishment at every instance of the case.
I agree with Maggy-san to an extent. Yes, censored swears are still swears, but censorship isn't anywhere near as bad. I suggest the mods and admins think this through, but I'll support any decision they all come up with.
By popular demand, I have toned down my post. I apologize if I came across as rude.
Anyway, Whocares, I'm not concerned about censored words. I think they're appropriate. But when they aren't is where it gets serious on my part. The thing is, I don't think I've ever seen the word being used severely on TDC, so based on precedence, wouldn't that make every useage of that word warnable, JQ? Unless, of course, the word is being used as an example or part of one and not as a directly-used modifier?
Quote from: Sarge on September 13, 2007, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 11, 2007, 06:49:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
oh yeah
Um.....ok? Seems a bit spammy to me. I'll have to put you down for a warning for that Sarge. You know better.
Insults are what's important in terms of that, and the reason the words are taboo is because of their inflammatory usages. But What if it's not used in an inflammatory manner?
so does that mean that "@$$" isn't allowed either? Because thats one of my favs :-*
We're just going off the word list Jack left.
it's never been allowed here, we are discussing if it should be allowed
Again, I'm just going by Jack's reference.
If you use the word to describe the end of the human digestive system........that's debatable. But if you use the word to describe a person who is being a jerk, then it would probably be dealt with a little more severly.
Quote from: Gamefreak on September 13, 2007, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Sarge on September 13, 2007, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 11, 2007, 06:49:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
oh yeah
Um.....ok? Seems a bit spammy to me. I'll have to put you down for a warning for that Sarge. You know better.
thats what i like to see, i tested you and great job, i am done for now so good bye.
Quote from: Gamefreak on September 13, 2007, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Sarge on September 13, 2007, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 11, 2007, 06:49:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
oh yeah
Um.....ok? Seems a bit spammy to me. I'll have to put you down for a warning for that Sarge. You know better.
And before my eyes, I watched the forum die, ruled by it's hollow overlords...
I agree with Evilbob's point, maybe we've gone too far.
And thus, I am the voice of reason. Not just a pretty face and good sense of humour, hmm?
Now, lets all hope that this insanity is over and we can have a normal forum again.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on September 14, 2007, 12:12:41 PM
I agree with Evilbob's point, maybe we've gone too far.
Then what shall we do? I mean, we've hardly come to a universal agreement regarding which is appropriate and which is not...
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 14, 2007, 12:58:39 PM
Then what shall we do? I mean, we've hardly come to a universal agreement regarding which is appropriate and which is not...
A simple thing called "Personal judgement"- Mods decide if the situation said word was used in was acceptable, and take action accordingly. If the user of said word wants to argue against this judgement, pursue it via PMs.
All right. Evilbob's topic has convinced me to consider this policy void. So starting now, I'll cross out the first post, edit the title again, and the other stuff I mentioned in his topic.
Again, I apologize if I was too rude and overbearing. I'm just trying to do my job.
Quote from: Evilbob on September 14, 2007, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Gamefreak on September 13, 2007, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Sarge on September 13, 2007, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 11, 2007, 06:49:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I overdid it, didn't I? ;)
oh yeah
Um.....ok? Seems a bit spammy to me. I'll have to put you down for a warning for that Sarge. You know better.
And before my eyes, I watched the forum die, ruled by it's hollow overlords...
What do you mean? If you're referring to the fact that I gave him a warning for spamming, then I don't think I deserve to be called that.
Sorry, Evilbob. We've been through a lot while you were gone, including:
- A troll (I can't remember the name)
- Bgrugby being banned for frequent insults
- A very controversial subject about the mods and bgrugby
- My abusiveness of power (which is why I quit the mods, if you didn't already notice, Evilbob)
- A change of admins and moderators
- A large number of things not worth mentioning at all anymore
So basically, we've gone through our worst. Wasn't a very good thing, but they're over. :(
Oh, I missed the bad times, too, I suppose.
At least we haven't been hacked, though!
:D