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Zelda Games => DS Game board => Topic started by: Fishalicious on October 05, 2007, 03:25:19 PM

Title: Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 05, 2007, 03:25:19 PM
Well, I got the game, of course, and I'm here to review it. I've not beaten the game, and I'd rather not spoil parts of the game for other people, so please: no spoilers.

Controls: * * *
The controls feel really natural to me, despite being almost exclusively stylus controlled. However, some things are a little difficult to control at first, and... well, my hand gets in the way sometimes. >_> The sea-way controls are amazingly smooth, or so I find. Killing enemies is so much easier...

Ship: * * * * *
I love the new ship, it gets places and the cannon is so easy to use... so is the salvage arm and fishing pole. Not to mention, you can customize it... I mean, I have an anchor shaped like a bell. <3

Temples: * * * *
Well, you see, the temples aren't dreadfully hard, but the temples themselves remind me a lot of the 2-D temples... while still being 3-D. There's Pol's voices (OMG) and those green blobby things and anti-faeries...

Storyline: * * *
It's nothing new; "save Zelda, she's lame and was kidnapped" but in PIRATE FORM. The Ghost ship is creepy, though. >:

Enemy AI: * *
Still as stupid as ever... with a few choice exceptions.

Characters: * * * *
They aren't amazing, but they do have more character development than average; particularly with __, his father, and his mother.

Linearality: * * *
It's fairly non-linear; you do have to do the temples in order, but you can screw around wherever you dare to go to your best ability.

Audio: * * * * *
This has the best music I've heard so far for a DS game; it's wonderful, and I personally really like it. The enemies sound funny when they die. It reminds me of popping something out of a can. Navi-haters, be prepared...

Visuals: * * * *
I like them; they aren't the greatest, of course, but they're still pretty good for 3-D on the DS. And just so you know, Link is the only one with a flat-ish face... the others look fine. I just wish the cel-shading stayed, and they didn't add the thin grey line around them all.

Overall: * * * *
I wouldn't call it my favourite game, but I love it, still. It has several of the temple traps that LA had, so of course I'll love it.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 06, 2007, 02:50:26 PM
Agreededed.

Except Ciela isn't like Navi at all. She only says "Hey!" or something every dungeon or so.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 06, 2007, 03:07:31 PM
Yes, but that's what Navi did (at least to me; I don't recall her actually saying 'hey!' that much) in OOT, and people hated her for that. I still love her jingly noises when you move her too fast... (wouldn't enemies hear that?)
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 07, 2007, 11:04:55 AM
Are you kidding me? She says it every two minutes if you aren't in the dungeon you are supposed to be in.

"Why don't you try playing that Nocturne of Shadow Sheik taught you."

"WHY DON'T YOU DIE!"

But about the noise, the Moldorms and the Phantoms should be able to hear that. They are some of the most intelligent enemies yet.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 07, 2007, 11:12:25 AM
Just wait until you go to the Temple of the Ocean King a fourth time. It's not fun. >: -that's where I am... I can get past it, but... stupid Phantoms-

Those Moldorms scared the crap out of me, by the way. So did the random Pol's voice.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Mysterious F. on October 07, 2007, 02:10:06 PM
Quote"save Zelda, she's lame and was kidnapped"

Oh, Zelda's kidnapped like once a week, I'm sure she's used to it by now.

*Zelda, meanwhile, is chained to a wall*

Zelda: It feels like I'm dying inside.


Seriously, the plot is getting old. Make Zelda do something useful for once, Nintendo!  >:(
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Vaati on October 07, 2007, 06:17:51 PM
You're right. I mean, they done that plot about a million times. The concept of the pretty, pretty princess being rescued by the strong, brave hero from the evil villian...is so cliché.
Ganon: Mwahahah!
Zelda: Save me!
Link: I'll save you, princess!

I agree with Fisk about the controls. To tell you the truth, I'm not too fond of them. I might need to get used to them. I don't like the fact that you have to guide Link and attack enemies by using the stylus. I always find myself slashing at things when I really want Link to go somewhere.

The characters are okay. There's not too many of them so far. Just like the villages could be bigger. But I like how Ciela has lost her memory and it makes you want to get through the game for her to recover her memory and you can find out her past.

Guilty Pleasures. I like to make the boat sink and have Linebeck (I call him Becky) go "Oh no! I can't swim!" and how he's such a coward.  ;D I did that this weekend and I has the evillest grin on my face while doing it. >:D
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: LadyNintendo on October 07, 2007, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Whocares on October 07, 2007, 02:10:06 PM
Seriously, the plot is getting old. Make Zelda do something useful for once, Nintendo!  >:(

CD-I horror!!! ;D

hmm, let's see: OOT, TWW and TP all had a Zelda who did useful stuff. Other than that, Zelda tends to be useful rather than do useful stuff.

Anyway, PH should be out in a few days here, but I'm not going to buy it immediately. Due to trying to make a good guide at Strategywiki, I still haven't finished Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, and I first want to do that. Besides, I also don't want the latter to feel like "something to do while waiting for the next real TLOZ", like so many idiotic reviewers call it.

So the fairy is Navi all over again? Also qua personality, or is she more comparable to one of the other sidekicks?
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 08, 2007, 08:04:50 AM
No, she is so much better than Navi. So much better. She is kinda like a little kid. Linebeck is a chicken and a braggart, and she seems to think he's a horrible person because of it. Like she thinks the world is black and white (non-racist version).

Once I beat the courage temple I'll be caught up with you Fisk.

Dungeons are not original in name, but inside they are very original.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 12, 2007, 12:21:27 PM
Well, actually, you would've been caught up with me if I hadn't already gotten past the next three/four-ish temples this week. ^^; (I say four-ish because I've been procrastinating and treasure hunting instead)

I really like Linebeck, actually. He's fun to watch in cutscenes. And for your question, LN, I should've said that she's more like Tatl... not personality wise, but noise-wise. She makes jingly noises and says "Hey!" and "Listen!" in Navi's voice. Unfortunately, she doesn't give you much advice, she just says "Oh look, Meuniere, a sign!" and you have to read it. >_> Personality wise, she does have a personality; and she also lost her memory, so she doesn't have much experience.

I'm starting to wonder why they made you choose which hand you write with; can someone right-handed tell me if you can bring down the map with the b button? Because that's the only thing I can think of to be different.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 12, 2007, 03:43:32 PM
Yep it's the same. I think it's flipped if you are drawing on something though.

I just found out the main villian, and Lineback was SO funny during the scene. It's all this epic stuff and then he's leaning on _____ and _____ falls over and he's like freaked out.







[spoilers]

Also, Fisk is it me, or does the main villian seem like Vaati's little cousin?




I knew those little girls on the ship were evil as soon as I saw the first one. And then when they tell you to do the wrong thing. >_< Rupoor.
[/spoilers]
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 12, 2007, 04:25:47 PM
Maybe; the buttons for the eraser and memo are on the left side, though... (EDIT: Okay, so the buttons are flipped at sea; the go/stop toggle is on the left; the hearts are on the left.)

Either way, I want to play a right-hand version next time, and see if I die or not. :D (or rather, how long it takes for me to die)

Ah, yes! I loved that scene, especially when ___ told Linebeck he'd give him a ___ if he helped Link and Ciela... aw man, Linebeck is just awesome, though XD (I love his character, his looks, and his theme...)
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 13, 2007, 07:51:22 PM
The fourth time at the TotOK is ridiculous hard. They're aren't nearly enough safe zones. Along with the faster Phantoms... man.

How much you wanna bet ____ gives him nothing?
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Vaati on October 18, 2007, 07:58:29 AM
How the hell are you guys so freakin' far?! I can't even get to the temple on the Isle of Ember!!!  :-*
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 20, 2007, 03:59:47 PM
Where are you stuck? :-\

I haven't gotten any farther, been reading a good book. :B
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Hi no Seijin on October 20, 2007, 05:21:52 PM
Got the game October 4, beat it October 8.  Kind of got boring after I beat the game.  I guess the replay value is waiting a while and then playing through the game again or playing the multi-player mode.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 20, 2007, 07:01:31 PM
I just beat it today, actually... -held off fighting the final boss for a week or two, then decided to finally fight the second stage today-

I cried fighting the second stage; my favourite character looked like he was gonna die. >_>
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Bboy94 on October 21, 2007, 07:59:35 PM
 :-* Well, at least I know who ISN'T going to die.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: alical on October 22, 2007, 12:57:53 PM
It came out here on Friday, and I completed it Sunday.

I <3 Linebeck so much!! He rocks.
As does jolene!!


Spoilers



I've been trying to find the mermaid (i'm guessing it's Jolene's sister, I got the letter). But I have no idea where to look ;-;
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Hi no Seijin on October 23, 2007, 03:34:00 PM
Spoilers













Go to Bannan Island and kill all of the enemies on the Old Wayfarer's side.  Once you've done that, Joanne, dressed up as a mermaid, will begin poking her head up above the water.  However, when you approach her, she'll dive underwater and show up somewhere else around the western side of the island.  Just take out your boomerang and use it to hit her from a distance.  After hitting her, you'll be able to talk to her.  Go inside and talk to the Old Wayfarer.  You won't find her in there yet, so go talk to Linebeck and speak to him.  Finally, go to the Old Wayfarer again and Joanne will be in there.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: alical on October 24, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
Ah thankyou very much.

I had been wandering round the sea for ages trying to kill as many enemies as posible. Haha I never thought of killing the enemies on the island, doi.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Gamefreak on October 24, 2007, 02:18:15 PM
Right now, I'm trying to put together a Golden Ship.

So far, I've got the prow and cannon for it.  Masked Beedle sells the parts.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Hi no Seijin on October 24, 2007, 07:51:19 PM
So far, I've only been able to find the Gem Anchor.  But then again, it's been a while since I've played PH.  I ought to break it out and roam around the sea for a while.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Gamefreak on October 26, 2007, 09:59:23 AM
All right, I've increased my ship to:

Golden Prow
Golden Cannon
Golden Chimney
Golden Cabin
Golden Wheels

Still missing the Gem Anchor, Golden Handrail, and Golden Hull.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Fishalicious on October 26, 2007, 02:47:20 PM
Go through the Temple of the Ocean King, and kill as many Phantoms as possible and hit EVERY switch. There's like.... five ship parts per round. I got most of my golden parts that way.

Personally, I'm going for the bell set. I have everything but the bridge... >: I have most of the golden set, but I also want the classy one... the red/black one? I love it.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Gamefreak on October 26, 2007, 04:32:20 PM
For the Bell set, you're looking for the Bright Hull.  I picked it up at Beetles.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: LadyNintendo on October 27, 2007, 01:40:35 AM
Quote from: Link on October 08, 2007, 08:04:50 AM
No, she is so much better than Navi. So much better.

Played the game. Navi beats Ciela in every way. If anything, I'd compare her to a more subtle version of Ruto. She's doing the buddy-buddy thing on a level that's way beyond comfortable. And truly, she should shut up about Linebeck. I wish I could tell her that Linebeck provides a ship and as such, actually does something. She only flutters around my head and claims "WE" did it.

I don't dislike her (as much as Midna (that hopefully is impossible) and Ezlo), but I prefer Pinkle (:P), Tatl, Navi and KoRL anytime.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Hi no Seijin on October 27, 2007, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: Fisk on October 26, 2007, 02:47:20 PM
Go through the Temple of the Ocean King, and kill as many Phantoms as possible and hit EVERY switch. There's like.... five ship parts per round. I got most of my golden parts that way.
Hmm, not sure if I should classify this as spoilers.

Anywho, before I make my comment, I'll just say that I have all the pieces for the stone ship.  I would think that such a ship would sink, but I guess the stone is somewhat porous.  Or maybe it's a video game that never did take the laws of science too seriously.


[SPOILERS....Maybe]










Back to Temple of the Ocean King.  Start at the first basement and work your way down, killing all the Phantoms on the way.  Doing so (or maybe just defeating the nine Phantoms on B13; I or someone else will have to check) will give you two chests in the chamber before Bellum.  Both of them has ship parts in it.

Edit:  You only need to defeat the nine Phantoms on B13 to get the two ship parts in the stairway chamber before Bellum.  It's not necessary to kill every Phantom in the temple, but hey, killing every Phantom in the temple is fun and profitable.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: apelsz on October 30, 2007, 10:12:19 PM
Jeez, I beat the game, even __. Twice! It is so easy, I have no idea how you could possibly get stuck! Especially on the Isle of Ember. Easiest temple in the game! And THAT is saying something.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Rinku on October 31, 2007, 05:25:02 PM
I haven't finished the game yet since I got no time, but I guess I like it so far. Doesn't matter if any of us actually like it or not, as we'll beat it because it's Zelda.

Quote from: Whocares on October 07, 2007, 02:10:06 PM
Quote"save Zelda, she's lame and was kidnapped"

Oh, Zelda's kidnapped like once a week, I'm sure she's used to it by now.

*Zelda, meanwhile, is chained to a wall*

Zelda: It feels like I'm dying inside.


Seriously, the plot is getting old. Make Zelda do something useful for once, Nintendo!  >:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl5AIrMlUhs
Yep. And the icon at the end of this video is probably what Link would be feeling right now if he actually existed.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: Hi no Seijin on October 31, 2007, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: apelsz on October 30, 2007, 10:12:19 PM
Jeez, I beat the game, even __. Twice! It is so easy, I have no idea how you could possibly get stuck! Especially on the Isle of Ember. Easiest temple in the game! And THAT is saying something.
Come now, some people are not fortunate enough to get degrees in Biochemiphysnatomy.

Seriously, though, I didn't care much for the difficultly of the game.  I just enjoyed playing it.
Title: Re:Fisk's Review (PH)
Post by: apelsz on November 01, 2007, 10:28:14 AM
Jeez, I beat the game, even __. Twice! It is so easy, I have no idea how you could possibly get stuck! Especially on the Isle of Ember. Easiest temple in the game! And THAT is saying something.


Come now, some people are not fortunate enough to get degrees in Biochemiphysnatomy.

Seriously, though, I didn't care much for the difficultly of the game.  I just enjoyed playing it

Hey, I enjoyed it, but every other Zelda game (except for just 1) I played had a harder difficulty level.  ;) And I can also truthfully say, I wasn't expecting half the things that happened. But why I beat it so quickly other than the difficulty was because I didn't want to stop playing. I can have fun too.