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Zelda Lore => Storyline => Topic started by: Marcamillian on February 22, 2006, 12:57:16 AM

Title: Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Marcamillian on February 22, 2006, 12:57:16 AM
What could have caused the flooding in hyrule at the time of WW.
Obviously its been a long time due to the fact that noone remembers the old hyrule. Was the flood sent by the gods to clense the land? Was the tower of the gods errected before the flood came... if so its right ontop the castle!!
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Evilslayer on February 22, 2006, 07:57:14 AM
It's stated in the game that it was the gods, and I believe those portals that leads to Hyrule leads to different places. Notice how close the portal to the castle and the portal to Ganon's Tower are in Hyrule compared to the world above. ;)
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: dan_the_man on February 26, 2006, 04:04:13 AM
this is accorting to the official nintendo site



Where does The Wind Waker fit into the overall timeline of the Legend of Zelda?

Mr. Aonuma: In terms of the storyline, we've decided that this takes place 100 years after the events in The Ocarina of Time. We think that as you play through the game, you'll notice that in the beginning the storyline explains some of the events in The Ocarina of Time. You'll also find hints of things from The Ocarina of Time that exist in The Wind Waker.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Zelda Veteran on February 26, 2006, 12:42:01 PM
A bunch of them! If you listen closley to some of the audio in the game, you can here all kinds of different things. And in the Ninitendo gallery, if you look closely at that one geeks bag, you will find another easter egg! and all of the things behind carlov's counter! they all have references of some of the past games.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Evilslayer on February 28, 2006, 03:43:17 AM
QuoteMr. Aonuma: In terms of the storyline, we've decided that this takes place 100 years after the events in The Ocarina of Time. We think that as you play through the game, you'll notice that in the beginning the storyline explains some of the events in The Ocarina of Time. You'll also find hints of things from The Ocarina of Time that exist in The Wind Waker.

The 100 years is a mistranslation. There is no difference between hundred and several hundreds in Japanese, but there's no way TWW can take place only a hundred years after OoT. Too much has happened.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: dan_the_man on February 28, 2006, 08:43:40 AM
i agree. how can the hero of time dissolve into ledgend in just 100 years?

are you sure about the japanese years being the same for hundreds? my japanese friend says that there are difference
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Zelda Veteran on March 01, 2006, 07:21:18 PM
well i would trust him if he is japanese! lol
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Evilslayer on March 03, 2006, 03:20:39 AM
Well, there could be *some* difference, but not within the word itself.

Er... I looked up and this is what I found:

Hundred: Hyaku

Hundreds of: Nanbyaku mo no

???
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: dan_the_man on March 03, 2006, 01:16:46 PM
YES BUT THERE ARE 3 WAYS OF WRITING OF JAPANESE ,
The Japanese writing system consists of three different character sets: Kanji (several thousands of Chinese characters) and Hiragana ,and Katakana (two syllabaries of 46 characters each; together called Kana). Japanese texts can be written in two ways: In Western style, i.e. in horizontal rows from the top to the bottom of the page, or in traditional Japanese style, i.e. in vertical columns from the right to the left side of the page. Both writing styles exist side by side today.these can easly be mistranslated due to anything from accents to traslated into the wrong text
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: MagmarFire on March 18, 2006, 07:01:28 AM
Man, that's very confusing! ???
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Evilslayer on March 21, 2006, 04:04:16 AM
It's not confusing at all. Kanji is used for words (kind of like Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs), hiragana is used to form words that don't have a kanji, or can't be formed by putting multiple kanjis together, and katakana is like hiragana, except they are used to write outlandish words/names.

Take Zelda, for example. Link's Japanese name, Rinku, is written with katakana. It's the same with Zelda and Ganon.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: MagmarFire on April 14, 2006, 04:51:01 PM
Hmm...intriquing...
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Anju on June 06, 2006, 04:44:52 PM
I didn't know that.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Marcamillian on June 20, 2006, 04:49:56 AM
w00t!  been playing WW through again and apparently everything is suppost to corrospond in undersea hyrule and over sea. The wind and earth temples are undersea, gannons forcefield is the only thing stopping you going to teh undersea hyrule temples, but they have other entrances are in the over sea hyrule (as stated by the kind of red lions)  Yet more fuelfor psy's article on geograpgical corrospondance between WW and OoT??
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: bgrugby on January 03, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
I think Wind Waker, besides the Oracle series, is one of the strongest arguments of a split timeline series. As dan_the_man pointed out Aonuma said the game is 100 years after OoT. What he didn't post was that Aonuma also said that if you think about OoT, there are two different endings, one with Link going back to his childhood and him and Zelda warning the king of Ganon, and the other of Ganon being sealed with an adult Zelda remaining and no Link (cause he was sent back).

WW follows the timeline following the ending where there was no Link which explains why there was no Link in the future to stop Gannon's return. One part in WW seems to support that, when Link meets the Zoran sage (forgot the name) they said "Ganon was sealed but not forever". Ganon was sealed in the one ending of OoT where there is no Link and we do not know what happens to the Ganon in the ending in which Link and Zelda are young (although looks like that might be explained in TP).
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: raymundo on January 04, 2007, 05:20:23 PM
Actually,the events took 1000 years after the flood.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: bgrugby on January 04, 2007, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: Link~ on January 04, 2007, 05:20:23 PM
Actually,the events took 1000 years after the flood.

Well not according to Aonuma who was the director of the games. What is your source?

And just for reference here is what Aonuma said:

"If you think back to the end of OoT, there were two endings in that game in different time periods"

"First Link defeated Ganon as an adult, and then he actually went back to being a child"

"You could say that Wind Waker takes place 100 years after the ending in which Link was AN ADULT."

Case Closed.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: LadyNintendo on January 11, 2007, 10:47:50 PM
Wasn't that a mistranslation of "hundreds of years"?
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: Evilslayer on January 12, 2007, 05:47:03 AM
It is. It's impossible for so many things to be forgotten in just 100 years.
Title: Re:Flooding in Hyrule
Post by: bgrugby on January 12, 2007, 07:58:26 PM
Ahh so the neysayers coward under mistranslation? Find make it 1000 years it still proves the point that the timeline in Hyrule is split, when the guy that basically runs Zelda says it, I will take that merit over people here that do not even work for Nintendo.