http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp
That right there? That makes me angry. What do you think?
I don't care that he doesn't believe in God. What I care about is that he's using his books to try and make kids reject him as well. He says that religion is 'oppresive' and 'tyrannical', well, we have a choice, and what does he think he's doing? I dunno, I just had to vent after reading that. I'm going to read the books as well, to see for myself what he's writing.
He being an atheist is something that I can let stand. It's no skin off of my back. But trying to convince people of his belief of disbelief is overdoing it. If that's true, then he's no better than how the Puritans were.
It's just...why does he care that much? I'll never understand why people can get so violently aethistic as to do such horrible things, even killing.
I know... It doesn't hurt them if people don't believe the same things that they do. Why SHOULD they care? Sometimes, the human mind just baffles me... :-X
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on October 27, 2007, 07:34:02 PM
http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp
That right there? That makes me angry. What do you think?
I don't care that he doesn't believe in God. What I care about is that he's using his books to try and make kids reject him as well. He says that religion is 'oppresive' and 'tyrannical', well, we have a choice, and what does he think he's doing? I dunno, I just had to vent after reading that. I'm going to read the books as well, to see for myself what he's writing.
OOOOOH, so thats why I found the book boring within the 3rd chapter XD yea, I think thats just stupid, is what you should be doing is trying to make the younger life believe in god instead of making them follow his stupidity by trying to make them not believe in god, yes, I found the book series, BBBBBOOOOOOORING! I read 3 chapters in the golden compase, and I was like, ok, this book is boring!
Jdog, if you try to force the belief that God does exist to the younger generation, then you're just as bad as he is. The point we're making is that people should believe whatever they want to believe, but respect other people's beliefs at the same time. You don't have to agree with them, but you shouldn't force your religion on other people. Now, I'm not saying you can't expose them to new religions, but exposing them to new ideas is not the same as ramming new ideas down their throats and forcing them to follow the new ideas.
Yes, mostly it's his hypocrisy by talking about how oppressive Christianity is and then trying to....whatever.
Well, I'm just saying, trying to make people not believe in god is wrong, thats cool if they don't believe in him, but if they try to make other people not believe in god? now thats just wrong. Trust me, if my dad was in on this, you'd be listening to him for at least 20 hours. if not more...
It doesn't matter what they believe. Trying to force your beliefs is WRONG.
Uh, thats what I said, in a longer sentence...
Quote from: Shikamaru Nara on October 27, 2007, 07:41:42 PM
It's just...why does he care that much? I'll never understand why people can get so violently aethistic as to do such horrible things, even killing.
One could say the same thing about religion. But all things as they are, they are done out of passion.
Yeah, thats why I try to avoide these kind of books.
I'm not. As I've said, I'm going to read them, and see just exactly what it is he's writing. That way I can speak more knowledgeably on the subject.
Well, I still don't like the idea of reading a book thats trying to get me from my religon...
Here's the thing. I believe in God. But I also believe in understanding both sides.
My friend doesn't believe in god, so I don't have problem with it unless he tryies to make me not believe in god, which he doesn't, so Im cool with other people not believing in god unless they don't try to make me not believe in god, which by the way, will never happen, Im loyal to my word. :D
Quote from: Twilight Hero on October 27, 2007, 08:50:48 PM
Well, I still don't like the idea of reading a book thats trying to get me from my religon...
If you are a strong believer in God, I dont think a book could stop your faith. Unless of course you have doubts.
I read the first book and heard the second and third on tape, when I was quite young so I cant remember them too well. I don't believe in God a bit and I never have but I cant say I remember the stories trying to bash Christianity.
Although I think people shouldn't force their beliefs on others I also believe the person writing the article is a fool. Surely telling people to boycott something that could make someone an atheist is basically saying atheism is wrong. He/She doesn't warn everyone away from books/movies about christianity so why warn someone away from a movie (supposedly) about atheism.
Although children are very impressionable they should be allowed to see both sides and not be blinkered. Stopping someone from reading this book would be like saying you couldn't read the bible because it might make you believe in God, it doesn't make sense
Quote from: x*Twilight Zelda*x on October 28, 2007, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: Twilight Hero on October 27, 2007, 08:50:48 PM
Well, I still don't like the idea of reading a book thats trying to get me from my religon...
If you are a strong believer in God, I dont think a book could stop your faith. Unless of course you have doubts.
Well, it would probably be kind of hard for me to read something that constantly bashes on my faith without quitting reading it out of disinterest/irritation anyway. Not that I have a problem with it now, for I haven't read the books, but who
would want to hear from somebody that's bashing on something close to your soul, anyway?
Yeah I guess so.
But the thing is, it's a good fantasy story.
When I read it, I wasn't thinking about the views expressed I must say, I was just enjoying the plot.
QuoteAlthough I think people shouldn't force their beliefs on others I also believe the person writing the article is a fool. Surely telling people to boycott something that could make someone an atheist is basically saying atheism is wrong. He/She doesn't warn everyone away from books/movies about christianity so why warn someone away from a movie (supposedly) about atheism.
He's not telling everyone to boycot it, just the fellow Christians who were planning on taking their kids. It's not the movie that's the problem, since it was the least offensive book and was watered down even more, it was that the kids will want the rest of the books. It's more of a warning about what they're taking their kids to see than anything.
Well, to be honest, I didn't even know there was a movie for it, XD