We'll after completing Windwaker (again) last night I thought up a question.What is to become of Ganon? I mean we all know he will come back somehow or another but I decided I would give us all a chance to use our imagination.( Oh and who created the master sword?) :-\
Well with the master sword now firmly lodged in Gannondorf's head... and him being turned to stone. I reckon he becomes the new pedestal of time. That however would lead to problems, because as soon as you removed the sword from his head it would free him. Forcing you to fight Gannon straight away. Any ideas?
Exactly my theory Davros, maybe one of his minions will search for him and free him at the start of a new game, and he will raise to the surface. I told you he would raise again, and for my help he will be most grateful lol. ;D
Lol. I should have realised you would go back begging to Gannondorf Shadow Ganon... but this would mean that one of Gannons minions would have to remove the Master sword. And as only those who are destined to be the hero of time can remove the sword... and as Raru says in OOT, the master sword can not be touched by evil... this means Link would have to be tricked. Or the minions could chop of links hands and use them like a pair of gloves! ;D
Thats a good point and I can just imagine a Moblin holding links hands a meter of his hands with a big cheesy grin and text saying you obtained the Hero Gloves. Don't worry, I assure you he will return...
I am reasured by your words Shadow Ganon. And let me also reasure you that my followers will eventually learn their folly and return to their true creator and master. Then far more than a mere triforce shall be mine. I shall have the universe in my pocket, and The Doctors head on my wall. ( As well as his scarf and several bits from K9...)
Mounted above a rocky fireplace? Well you can have all that but one thing remains, If evil can't touch the master sword then how is it Ganon manages to knock it out of Links hands just before the very final fight in OoT??
Only one worthy of the title Hero of Time can move it from the Pedestal of Time. There's only one Pedestal of Time. Ganon cannot become the Pedestal of Time because by removing the sword from him won't open the gate to the Golden Land. ;)
As for Ganon's return, I can think of two possibilities. The first is that the Master Sword loses its powers again and breaks (it is eventually rediscovered, of course). Ganon would attack New Hyrule (seen as this has to be before Ancient Hyrule is resurrected), and the new Link will have to kill him with Silver Arrows (yay!).^_^ This may explain how he permanantly becomes Ganon, the daemon.
The other possibility is that he may not need his Gerudo body. I think that Ganon the daemon is his true identity and the Gerudo body is only a disguise. While his body has been turned to stone his spirit may become free and eventually he may create a new body for himself, or even possess the body of one of his minions.
I just thought of a third, which is based on the second. Except in this theory Hyrule has been resurrected and Ganon's Tower is in an enormous cavern underneath the lands. Somehow the Master Sword has lost its powers and one of Ganon's minions pulls it out.
I believe evil ones can touch it as long as it does not have the power to repel evil.
Very well evilslayer but this still doesn't answer my question of how Ganon can knock it out of Links hands just before the end fight of OoT, I mean it is at full power at this stage.
Perhaps Gannon simply hits young links wrist or arm with such force that Link (being the little weak child he is.) lets go of the master sword in pain, thus sending it flying through the air. Or someone at Nintendo could not have been thinking very clearly when they designed the last section of Wind Waker...
It is proberbly that simple but i am not lol.
Er... he doesn't touch the sword, y'know. So, it shouldn't be too hard for him to knock it out of Link's hands.
I must pay closer attention to those cutscenes.lol.
I think that a new evil will threaten the land, and link has no other choice, but to take the sword and free ganon. Perhaps vaati returns cell shaded? that would be cool. Or mabey the sword breaks like in minish cap, and he is freed. im just thinkin as i go...
I agree Zelda Veteran that vaarti returning in cell shaded form would be cool but would it not be a bit confusing next to the Tp graphical style that has been adopted? Unless of course they switch back to cell shaded in a later game.
I thing most things out of OoT and MM would be cool in the WW Cel Shaded graphics. I mean can you imagine having the honour to re-design some of the cooler characters?? ;)
I always thought that the Gerudu and the Deku scrubs would suit the cell shaded style of graphics... I can just imagine them now. Though I must admit all the ideas I could come up with would end up looking rubbish compared to what the people at nintendo could do.
lol. Is a Darknut an Iron Knuckle in Cel-Shaded graphics or are they completley different??? Plus Twinrova would look cool in Cel Shaded Graphics.
As far as I can tell Darknuts look like wolf people under their helmets and also wield different weapons. They are beaten in a different way to the Iron Knuckles in Mm and Oot but they do serve a similar purpose... I suppose they could be the same as you never see a Iron Knuckle take its helmet off, though I am more inclined to believe they are different creatures.
If they are the same they have proberbly evolved, i mean look at the difference between the moblins from OoT and WW. Plus the Stalfos weild a different weapon, but if this is not the case then I'm realy angry there arn't and Iron Knuckles in WW >:( >:( >:( >:(
Iron Knuckles and Darknuts are the same. :P The answer is in the two first games. The first has Darknuts, and the second Iron Knuckles. They look more or less identical.
The only difference is that you can only defeat the Darknuts by attacking from the sides or from behind.
Cheerz evilslayer, I always needed to have that explined to me
too........much.........thinking........for........young........brain........aka.........me....... :P
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww, poor medli. You'll be right. ;)
An easy way to relax your brain is drink a lot of water while having a friend drop bricks on your head. ( Always helps me!) Or if you are want something a little less extreme you could go out to your nearest video store and demand that they give you all the doctor who videos and DVDs you can afford. It doesn't matter if you buy them. Just so long as you keep funding me...
lol, Davros is trying to profit again ::) ::)
What's wrong with that?!?
Evilbob (davros's partner in crime): your puny physical realm has no bearing on the future of existence. For we do not exist. FOOLS!!!!!!!
Sorry about that... my mate grabbed the computer off me, but I can't delete it now or he will prod me with sharp sticks... As for making a profit I have to or I will die of lack of money to swim in...
lol good point
Agree with what? It was hardly a point. Do you agree with me or EvilBob. ( Please say me... Please say me...)
me. lol
lol, who is evil bob??? so I'll say you lol Davros :)
Im guessing its the guy in his avatar? either way, lets stay on topic.
kk. What is your opinion??? :)
I AM EVILBOB!!!!!!!
I finally bothered to register.
behold! the answer to our questions! ;)
Gannon is gonna be reincarnated in the next game as long as it is released before the year 2012.
lol
i'm begining to like this guy! ;)
nah,liked since i saw ya name
No! you can't like me! I am EVIL!
<sob> :'(
No need to worry Evilbob. I still hate you and I'm sure no one will think you any the less evil. And what's with the 2012 thing?
i like dark link and he's evil.......
I'm evil aswel, well mainly cause my creator made me evil lol, but ppl like me ;D now no more conversation posting
hey watzup evil bob! welcome to the forums! and as for the reincarnation of ganondorf, thats a pretty tight idea!
wat took you so long to reply zv? ;)
2012?
I don't know.
some strange bible people said thats when the worlds gonna end.
It also includes some stuff about nuclear war
they said it's one of those strande bible code things.
i like consiparcys and ancient apocolipce codeings and stuff.
i recon in 2012 they may be a nucular war- but between hu? its obvious americans gona b involved , naturaly :D
unless America waits untill the final year then decide to join in late and apear to look the heros like in every other major war ;)
it mite be summin 2 do with iran or CHINA i recon. i doubt the russians will go against america- they seem 2 b quite good political allies at the moment.
arggh- China has too many nukes for my liking.......and too many people, and too much production , and too much wepons production..
lol! But watch it, because most of your clothes, and stuff say on the tag
Made In China
Does everything in China say
Made in America?
not a chance , lol ;)
nearly all my belongings are made in china
what became of ganondorf?
went 2 communist china to rule and plan 2 take over the world
::)
it was so obvious of you to say that dan
of course it was. It was on the news.
"in other news, ganon has taken over china, renamed it hi-I-rule"
See what i did there? hyrule, HI I rule! see!
;D
Yea I do get it evilbob, unfortunatley lol joke. I think Ganons hidout is in south korea lol.dont ask y though lol
no , south koria is the nice one - North Korea is the evil one- they wont let any1 leave >:(
oh rite lol, i knew i'd get that one wrong
North Korea? Everyone knows it's on the North Pole! He's Santa's neighbour...
No I know whre it is, it is on top of everest
this is what happens when evilbob starts talking. Everyone throws common sense out of the window. P.S Your all wrong his spirit dwells within George Bush, waiting to be reborn. ;)
Nah I think Prince Charles, can't u see the resemblance???
Quote from: Davros on March 08, 2006, 09:41:34 AM
this is what happens when evilbob starts talking. Everyone throws common sense out of the window.
LOL! I mock thee, hairy human!
Quote from: Davros on March 08, 2006, 09:41:34 AM
I will end you
that is not a very nice thing to say
I know where you live.
you know it davros!
dont confuses the americans , they dont no eney1 elces culture outside the US
lol. I'm not goin 2 say anytin incase anyone here is american, i dont wanna offend
hehe- pretty much every1 here is american.
thats why its funi ;)
lol im proper british me lol
doubt it m8. im sickly patroitic- and if anyone offends England i just may have to hunt you down like dogs and slaughter you in your sleep ;)
Quote from: dan_the_man on March 10, 2006, 01:26:06 PM
doubt it m8. im sickly patroitic- and if anyone offends England i just may have to hunt you down like dogs and slaughter you in your sleep ;)
Public hanging! ;D
Burn the Witch!!!!
hello
I too am British and have a craving for tea in the mornings. ( Anyone else British have that problem? ) Oh, and hello right back Ganon.
8)
ahh.... tea....
one advantage of tea is that it allows etereal beings such as myself to hold a form in the material world (your world) for a considerable ammount of time
mmm..tea
no! its
Mmmm... TEA!....
is every one asleep ???
no. I don't sleep.
I am nocteral like a owl :o
LOL! loser! I am undead!
redead
no, they are my weakest slaves
So reredead
no, ethereal presence
so your a ghost ::)
Did you disappear ???
he is a poe, but my money is on Gibdo. :D :D
ha! ;D
Gibdo's scare me, as do reDeads, but poes just annoy me. Lizalofs forever 8) 8) 8)
no, I'm the one that always hovers just over ganons head and prods him.
QuoteGibdo's scare me, as do reDeads, but poes just annoy me. Lizalofs forever 8) 8) 8)
I hate ReDeads, too! They need to die (huh, what's that? They're already dead? I knew that...)!
lol, why does no1 like lizalofs???????? They are amazing
;D ;D :o
that didnt reali answer m question but ok
i dont know why
lol kk
Lizofs r ok but personally i like the ironknuckles
yea same eya, for me in OoT it goes
Lizalofs
Iron Knuckles
Stalfos
Dodongos
Wolfos
Meh, the Darknuts and Wizzrobes from LoZ are far supperior to those. :P Also, if you want a truly powerful Lizalfos mix a Dinofols from MM with a Lizalfos from TP and make them twice as fast.
Then they'd be able to toast you with a breath of fire, hit you with their tails, cleave you with their axes and they'd move very fast.
>:]
most kool
Alright we need to get back on topic :'(
yea, u got any theories on ur return??????????
I will return and crush link in the game after tp and then rule hyrule forever and i will crush the gods to ;D
kool, can I help, and then crush you when you seem at your most confident???????????
that's surportive ::)
jking lol :-*
yea init just lol joke.
why crush the gods? they hardly do anything on earth but in hyrule they actually get off their behinds! ;D
lol gd point :-*
gd,u agree! ;D
i always agree wiv u, itz easier than arguin lol :-*
lol true
you don't wana mess wid me! ;D
::) crush me hahahahahahahaha......and ha ;D
Hehehehehe! Try her...! ;)
BOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!! ;D
>:(
..............................what did you just say?
boom ;D
????????
Okay... back to topic now then: Ganon did just raise an interesting idea there. if the Gods can simply flood a land to stop Ganon getting what he wants, then does this mean that Ganon can never reach his goal while the gods keep an eye on him?
So Mabey Ganon and link will join forces to destroy the gods and then ganon may turn on link then rule hyrule or mabey link will defeat ganon agian and once again save hyrule......ok i am done ;D
I find it hard to imagine Link just teaming up with Ganon like that. It would be quite strange though wouldn't it? What if you could play as Ganondorf in a Zelda game? What would you think of that? Do you think I am asking to many questions?
Ganon might use link to kill them
i'm gettin lost here
ganon,ur not funny all the time u no
oh
I know i just get bored ;D
QuoteGanon might use link to kill them
You can't kill gods. They're not physical beings.
Well they could go to the spirit world during winter soulsist :-\
EVILBOB
Lord of the ethereal realm!
Avaliable for:
Demon summoning
satanic rituals
god killing
etc.
Why the name Evil Bob ???
[egoboost]Because he's a HUGE fan of my name and so to not make it look like a rip-off he switched out 'Slayer' with 'Bob'.[/egoboost] :P
no, you are the impostor, human!
Well as long as noone tries to copy my name.