In your oppinion, what is bad music? mine is stuff like Rap and hip hop, mostly gansta, I can listen to some, but not all of it, it sucks if you ask me. I mostly try to stick to Christian Metal or metal in general maybe some punk and alternative too.
I agree. I don't particularly care for rap/hip-hop. Probably because the people on my bus want to listen to it so much. That Superman song...I wanna stab it to death!!! >:(
I like rock, classic rock, symphonc metal, heavy metal. I don't really like Christian rock or whatever. Mainly because I think that rock and roll is for singing about love and hate and stuff, and talking about Jesus is for church.
There was never a bigger oxymoron than a term such as 'Christian Metal'.
I was thinking the same thing. Except I thought "oxymoron," and not "oxymorpon."
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Well, thats basically what it is, its christian, but yet its also metal, take Demon Hunter for one, they don't really scream, but they are christian metal. Don't ask me why, but its good either way.
I don't care, but I don't like hip-hop/rap about butts and women... mostly because I don't like butts or women.
Christian Metal is terrible. In fact, you put the word "Christian" in front of any kind of music and it's invariably going to produce concentrated fail out of every one of its hideous orifices.
Country and [Insert Adjective Here] Metal are also major producers.
Edit: Rap and Hip-Hop go without saying, of course.
What about Symphonic Metal? At least they try.
Yeah, I meant more along the lines of Death Metal, or Black Metal, or whatever other names they have for it nowadays. You know, where it's not really music, but people screaming (or grunting!) at the top of their lungs while they pound on their guitar as hard as possible. It's like some horrific alien mating ritual.
Christian Death Metal scares me. Here's an example:
JESUS IS LORD! JESUS IS LOOORRRD!!!!!!!!!!!Quote from: Commodore Lesko on November 09, 2007, 12:29:27 PM
Country and [Insert Adjective Here] Metal are also major producers.
You fail, my friend, becuase we all know everything gets hotter when the sun goes down.
I find Classical Metal quite inspiring actually.
I do too. I play it in math class every day and my grades have improved quite drastically. I personally cannot stand rap. I can stand the curse words but what I cannot stand is the "god-complex" rappers have and the degradation of women by calling them "garden utensils" and "female dogs."
I enjoy some country. Garth Brooks is the man when it comes to country. Followed by Toby Keith.
Although, it's been a while since I've listened to country on the radio. My mom listens to classic rock, which I also enjoy listening to.
But I guess I should say what kind of music I don't like, huh? I'm going to have to agree with a lot of people in this thread and say I don't like rap, pretty much for the reason Aureliano listed. You know, the whole degradation of women.
It's not so much that I don't like heavy metal. I can't tolerate it. It's not music; it's harsh noise. A much more not mind disturbing way to describe it.
Horrific alien mating ritual? What on earth do you read/watch? :-[
Charlie Daniels band is good for country.
Rap has got to be the worst music to be conducted from the depths of where it came. I love symphonic metal, metal, some death metal, a lot of rock, and techno beats.
Quote from: HNS on November 09, 2007, 05:06:42 PM
Horrific alien mating ritual? What on earth do you read/watch? :-[
Alien in the sense of being unknown and unimaginable to us. Though the image of two Grays "gettin' it on" is quite horrific in and of itself.
Back on topic:
Yes, Rap is the worste, but there are good things that are like it, like R&B soul, thats bout the only thing I like that close to it. oh and country is the second worse.
I'm not racist, but I hate it how some rap songs degrage white people. I hate how some people think that becuase some people are white supremacists, that gives them the right to but down the entire skin tone group (you can't call white a race, since there are so many diffent cultures within it).
Also, what's wrong with country? All it is a mix a folk/western, and rock.
Their "god-complex" I honestly like all races (I am latino myself), but I hate it when people tell me to go back to Mexico. I was rightfully born in the U.S. and my parents pay taxes and are in the army. I am also going to join the army.
But yeah, I like some rap that doesn't degrade women. I hate it when people do that.
I don't really care for rap... I'm not going to go and call it outright "bad," but it just has no appeal to me. Country music, too, is another kind I don't care for. I'm sure that there is good country music out there, but I haven't heard it.
Quote from: Aureliano on November 09, 2007, 07:33:11 PM
But yeah, I like some rap that doesn't degrade women. I hate it when people do that.
17 posts and I like you already. *applause*
Rap and Hip Hop all sound the same to me. I swear they use the same song over and over again. Also, I'm not fond of the metal where all the words are screamed into the poor, defensless microphone.
Rap was good before it was about being gangster and having a bunch of slutty women hanging all over you for your cash. Eminem captured some of the original rap, and I thank God that he did. Rap is kind of like the blues, not really by the sound, but by the meaning behind it. When it's done right, anyways.
Quotemy parents are [..] in the army. I am also going to join the army.
Jeey for you. ::)
Seriously, while I understand what you are trying to say, I do not think those are okay arguments. Saying you belong to a country because you joined/join that country's army sounds like you're walking the "We Vs.They"-road, which is disgusting. Then again, if that is your attitude as a "rightfull" American, you're fitting nicely in the unfortunately-not-so-stereotypical image huge parts of the rest of the world has of the USA.
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On topic: I don't dislike any category of music. Every category has a few "defilers", depending on how popular the genre is. I don't like the rap/hiphop that seriously makes rude remarks about women, any race and/or homosexuals. As an example of a not serious rude song, I refer to Eminem's ''Shake That', which is too ridiculous/funny to be considered offensive.
As for metal/rock and the likes, I do not mind screaming/shouting unless I can't hear the lyrics anymore. That's pretty much where I draw the line; when the screaming is confused with singing and turns out to be meaningless.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 10, 2007, 12:07:57 AM
Quotemy parents are [..] in the army. I am also going to join the army.
Jeey for you. ::)
Seriously, while I understand what you are trying to say, I do not think those are okay arguments. Saying you belong to a country because you joined/join that country's army sounds like you're walking the "We Vs.They"-road, which is disgusting. Then again, if that is your attitude as a "rightfull" American, you're fitting nicely in the unfortunately-not-so-stereotypical image huge parts of the rest of the world has of the USA.
Now before anyone goes up to take offense at this, I think the perceived stereotype that she has here is that the US will grant citizenship to anyone who works for the military, even citizens of other countries and thus enforcing a military state. But this isn't the case, so I'm asking that no one go on about this... as it would lead only to trouble.
There's gotta be a limit as to what defines music. Those who make music should have some training in order to express oneself better... Screaming isn't really music, it's noise, same with anything that is played at the highest possible volume. Maybe the thing is is that people are taking one quality of a genre, and run with the quality that appeals to them. IE: Guitar complexity of Hendrix and then with other generations just banging on the guitar, but without really producing anything remotely music.
I'm really attracted to the idea of Symphonic Metal; as it can bring about a strong dissonant sound that can be pleasing without being all out jarring. A guitar can be used to play something with complex and varied harmonies, but why people are associating these types of harmonies with harsh screeches and loud noise boggles my mind, the complexities have to be structured and layered, not strum out at any random chord at an extreme volume.
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on November 09, 2007, 07:55:05 PM
Country music, too, is another kind I don't care for.
Nobody's answered my question about why they don't like country.
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Is that a word?
Quote from: ZT on November 09, 2007, 04:13:41 PM
Christian Death Metal scares me. Here's an example:
JESUS IS LORD! JESUS IS LOOORRRD!!!!!!!!!!!
...mmm...Bwahahahahaha! ;D ;D rofl, seriously!
I don't label all Country Music as bad. I like the Charlie Daniels band, which is some kind of country/rock thing.
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Quote from: Twilight Wolf on November 09, 2007, 07:55:05 PM
Country music, too, is another kind I don't care for.
Nobody's answered my question about why they don't like country.
It's probably due to the overall uncomfortable thing about it, its over-sappiness and not so appealing overall sound. Some of us don't really want to hear songs about trucks or drinking and women. We want to listen to songs that appeal to our sense of being.
QuoteQuoteJeey
Is that a word?
It is in Dutch, Ladynintendo's native language.
Some country is alright, but it's almost like rap in the way it's becoming about how 'redneck' they are, how big their truck is, and how they've lost everything. When in reality, they're living in a mansion with ferraris and a private jet.
I agree with Ladynintendo on the whole every genre usually has good and bad music in it.
For example rap/hip-hop, I adore Kanye West's songs (Flashing Lights, Stronger Gold Digger etc.) and a few of Eminems songs are good, but I can't stand 50 cent.
I hate Bob Dylan.
Yea, Kayne west is one of those few rappers that I actually like.
I know that what I'm about to say is stuff that people have been saying for the past three pages, but I'm going to repeat it anyway: I HATE METAL. Much of what I hear of it is screaming. When I listen to music, I do it to listen to melodies that are easy on the sensitive human ears, not to listen to people roaring their lungs out until their throats become sore.
Me, I prefer beautiful and epic, thought-provoking pieces, like orchestrated music (mostly video game music, no less :P ), but screaming... I don't see how people can possibly qualify that as singing!
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Well I am sorry to convey that image, but truth be told I am joining the army because I truly do love it. And well, you really cannot judge me properly because you do not know me, and I don't know if you have ever been racially descriminated, but I go through it every single day just because my hair is jet black, my skin is bronze, and I have a slight accent. I get discriminated from people who think "Mexican" is the name of Mexico's language, and do not know that they themselves are immigrants. Now I don't want to hold any hard feelings, but I have been going through tough times, so please do not tread on me.
Back on topic:
I like Kanye West and Eminem, because they talk about important things in life. Metal is alright, if it has a nice tune, thogh I prefer rock. Metal can be a bit too hard on the ears at times. I especially love classical. It is fascinating how many instruments come together to create beautiful times.
I listen to music from an abstract point of view; letting the sounds create shapes and forms in my mind without any specific arrangement, save for what the music gives in its direction. That's what a lot of classical music is. Granted, quite a bit of it is also dedicated to programmes and themes and ideas of humanity and emotion, but quite a bit of it is more abstract in the sense of its being.
I used to listen to classical music, but I seem to have lost interest in it for some odd reason. not sure why though.
I believe that Screamo isn't music. It's screaming to notes.
Now organ and harpsichord together? That's music.
I happen to like the screamo music thank you very much. one because thats all we get around here thats actually good, and two, because I don't really like music too slow and I don't like rap or anything.
Quote from: Aureliano on November 11, 2007, 03:08:26 PM
Well I am sorry to convey that image, but truth be told I am joining the army because I truly do love it. And well, you really cannot judge me properly because you do not know me, and I don't know if you have ever been racially descriminated, but I go through it every single day just because my hair is jet black, my skin is bronze, and I have a slight accent. I get discriminated from people who think "Mexican" is the name of Mexico's language, and do not know that they themselves are immigrants. Now I don't want to hold any hard feelings, but I have been going through tough times, so please do not tread on me.
I was not saying I judge you because you are going to join the army. My point simply was that I don't think that is a proper argument that you belong to a certain country. I think one belongs somewhere because they follow patterns of the people of that place, or at least do not break those of the environment. I do not think one belongs somewhere because they "accept the same enemy", which is implied by saying you belong somewhere because you join that place's army. In other words, what is the proper way to become friends with someone: trying to get them to like you on a personal level, or by beating up whoever that person doesn't like?
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On topic: There's absolutely nothing (qua music) that I am reluctant to give a try. I prefer a bit of aggresive music (Kozi's Cacophony, Rammstein and My Ruin's Terror being pretty much the upper border), but also can enjoy Enya, Era and the likes. I guess my music is (gothic) rock, Celtic, (nu) metal and certain types of Trance.
Screaming, like I said, I don't mind if it has a purpose and in case of lyrics, the lyrics aren't impossible to hear. It also shouldn't make up most of the song.
Quote from: JDog on November 11, 2007, 05:06:10 PM
I happen to like the screamo music thank you very much. one because thats all we get around here thats actually good, and two, because I don't really like music too slow and I don't like rap or anything.
I love how your reasons were that you think it's good and you think other stuff isn't.
I suppose I can handle some screaming. For instance, AC/DC. Their lyrics are kinda screamed, but the licks and such are fantastic.
Also, Kanye West was hilarious at the Awards. You know what I'm talking about.
Screaming is okay, if like Ladynintendo said you can understand what they're saying. I like Enter Shikari for example, they tend to scream a few lines but you know what they're saying, and I believe it adds affect. And Dir En Grey, but I can't understand what they're saying anyway because I'm kinda bad at Japanese. That said I didn't much like most of Marrow of a Bone (dir en grey's latest album). And of course, Alice Nine!! Arisu Kyu for life <3<3!!!o(^0^)o Their screams are just delish.
AC/DC is nothing compared to Killswitch engage lol
So you guys who don't like rap, what about r&b? I honestly TRY other songs cuz I hear how rap is so bad. But it is like people talk about rap has these bad images and its not like other genres have images as well. About the racist stuff, I'm white and I'm not racist against my culture or pro black and I don't think theyre racist. Some things mean something else. For example, U.S.D.A.'s(the group with Jeezy and Blood Raw and Slick Pulla) song "White girl" isn't about white girls its about c to the o to the k to the e
That's not the example of racism some of us have been talking about. What we're talking about is how they'll reciprocate likewise and blame problems they have on white people, and they'll go against their own for 'acting white'. THAT is the racism that we're talking about, not something that has the word 'white' in the song title.
All racism is bad, doesn't matter who it's coming from or whom it's directed towards.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on November 13, 2007, 01:51:41 PM
That's not the example of racism some of us have been talking about. What we're talking about is how they'll reciprocate likewise and blame problems they have on white people, and they'll go against their own for 'acting white'. THAT is the racism that we're talking about, not something that has the word 'white' in the song title.
All racism is bad, doesn't matter who it's coming from or whom it's directed towards.
Not to ask to much of you but can you give an example.
There are the rap songs out there that don't have the clubs scenes with girls just shaking their butts, or liquor or smoking or all the bad words, the problem is is that people dont want to buy that stuff. That shouldn't be the rapper's/artist's fault. Look at David Banner. When he got in that depression and lost all that weight it was because he was just flatout not making money. It wasn't like he wasn't trying, just people didn't like his "good" products. He was so mad that he didn't go to the studio for a long while. He's about done with the game today. So the moral is, singers do put good messages out there, it just might not mix with their persona.
Back on topic, cuz I never said music I think is bad, I would have to go with country(all audios sound the same and is lyrically lacking),rock(I don't like the solo stuff or screaming and the people creep me out with their clothes and lyrics),songs that VH1 play alot and do the little docs on, like amy wine, heck she doesn't even deserve caps(which could be soul, but I do like other soul), and any Britany Spears(not anything thing she has done, but what my relative has an absolute fascination of her, and he's a guy)
Not all Rock is screaming and such. Only metal and hard rock.
Now I couldn't help but read the Christian metal discussion. There is one Christian metal band that everyone loves, and they're called Underoath. Listen to a few of their songs, they're awesome. I hate rap so much. Well, not rap in general. There are some good raps out there, but I can't stand the gangster rap that encourages kids to go out, and get thrown in jail to prove they have a "rep". I like the song "Remember the Name" by Fort Minor, and "Mockingbird" by Eminem. But Country is crap too. It takes talent to sing that bad.
yea dude, screamo isn't rock at all, totally dif, in fact, its the hard metal, christain metal, regular metal, death metal, theres all kinds of it.
Wait, what? That didn't make any sense at all.
rock -> metal -> goth -> emo -> Screamo
Screamo is basically another thing that lacks organization...
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on November 14, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Now I couldn't help but read the Christian metal discussion. There is one Christian metal band that everyone loves, and they're called Underoath. Listen to a few of their songs, they're awesome.
Well, I hate to disappoint you there, Jack, but I certainly
do not love them. :P
Well, everyone in MAH clique anyways :P
I see people with Underoath backpacks, and shirts, and all kindsa-crap! I have one of their CD's, and my favorite song by them is either "Writing on the Walls", or "Its Dangerous Business Stepping out your Front Door."
ICP = I hate. With a passion.
Ugh, Idk how my friend ben even likes them, they suck alot, I tryied listening to them once, and I was like, what the? this sucks!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on November 14, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Now I couldn't help but read the Christian metal discussion. There is one Christian metal band that everyone loves, and they're called Underoath. Listen to a few of their songs, they're awesome. I hate rap so much. Well, not rap in general. There are some good raps out there, but I can't stand the gangster rap that encourages kids to go out, and get thrown in jail to prove they have a "rep". I like the song "Remember the Name" by Fort Minor, and "Mockingbird" by Eminem. But Country is crap too. It takes talent to sing that bad.
There has never been a song like that. I don't mean to throw salt on you, but I bet my life there has never been a song that says 'we want you to get in jail'. Sure there have been songs that say the actions of what people do in gangs, but they're about trying to get out of that(drug hustling).
Quote from: Knil on November 15, 2007, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on November 14, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Now I couldn't help but read the Christian metal discussion. There is one Christian metal band that everyone loves, and they're called Underoath. Listen to a few of their songs, they're awesome. I hate rap so much. Well, not rap in general. There are some good raps out there, but I can't stand the gangster rap that encourages kids to go out, and get thrown in jail to prove they have a "rep". I like the song "Remember the Name" by Fort Minor, and "Mockingbird" by Eminem. But Country is crap too. It takes talent to sing that bad.
There has never been a song like that. I don't mean to throw salt on you, but I bet my life there has never been a song that says 'we want you to get in jail'. Sure there have been songs that say the actions of what people do in gangs, but they're about trying to get out of that(drug hustling).
So I take it that glorifying a life that's high in crime - sex, drugs, alcohol, shooting... Is actually something that's meant to keep people OUT of prison? Apparently you've lost touch with reality, seeing as all these young kids glorify and worship these rap 'artists'.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on November 16, 2007, 07:15:50 AM
Quote from: Knil on November 15, 2007, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on November 14, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Now I couldn't help but read the Christian metal discussion. There is one Christian metal band that everyone loves, and they're called Underoath. Listen to a few of their songs, they're awesome. I hate rap so much. Well, not rap in general. There are some good raps out there, but I can't stand the gangster rap that encourages kids to go out, and get thrown in jail to prove they have a "rep". I like the song "Remember the Name" by Fort Minor, and "Mockingbird" by Eminem. But Country is crap too. It takes talent to sing that bad.
There has never been a song like that. I don't mean to throw salt on you, but I bet my life there has never been a song that says 'we want you to get in jail'. Sure there have been songs that say the actions of what people do in gangs, but they're about trying to get out of that(drug hustling).
So I take it that glorifying a life that's high in crime - sex, drugs, alcohol, shooting... Is actually something that's meant to keep people OUT of prison? Apparently you've lost touch with reality, seeing as all these young kids glorify and worship these rap 'artists'.
I didn't say those songs tried to keep kids out of jail, I just said what there about. It's not like every country song tries to get people to move to Texas or Tennesee(not trying to be stereotypical).
"Lost touch of reality"? What in gfn are you talking about? I never said they aren't "worshipping" rap. And if they are, then good job to the ARTISTS blatently saying they have or are breaking the law.