Can any1 tell me some good rpgs, or games with magic,swords; stuff like that, that aren't turn based or card based?
Link would be perfect as one of those games, but it would fit it better if you could chose a race, like Deku or Zora, and a wider variety of weapons
This can also be used to discuss good other rpgs that don't answer the question, if a topic like that hasn't been made.
Are you talking about online RPGs or console/PC RPGs? (Or rocket-propelled grenades? :P )
If it's the latter, then I can't really mention Zelda; it's already been said! I suppose the R&C games can be considered RPGs, because weapons upgrade upon frequent use, and Ratchet levels up and has a health upgrade after defeating enough enemies.
Kingdom Hearts I and II would probably count, too. Chain of Memories wouldn't, though; it's card-based...even though I still love it! :D You kind of have to like the system to be able to want to play through it, though...
Well, I'm out of ideas at the moment. ???
Kingdom hearts, ratchet and clank, legend of zelda, mario, I'm not really sure what your asking, like videogames, or online?
Except Mario is usually a platformer game. However, the Paper Mario series, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga, and Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time are RPGs. They might be the type you're looking for.
Now you said you don't like turn based. Sorry friend. RPG's and turns go hand in hand.
*jumps out of the nearby bushes wearing a shirt emblazoned with "I love Sothe" in flashing neon lights*
Fire Emblem! Play Fire Emblem. If you're into the whole storyline part of RPGs, play Path of Radiance on Gamecube first before getting the new Radiant Dawn for Wii.
I would have suggested FE myself, as well as FFTA, but he doesn't want turn-based games. Personally, I am saddened by this, but what can I do, eh?
TLOZ IS NOT AN RPG!!! How often do I have to say that? As for R & C, I have never played it, so I can't really say anything about its status as RPG. Note though that there is a significant difference between an rpg and a game of another genre with RPG elements.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 15, 2007, 10:39:41 PM
TLOZ IS NOT AN RPG!!! How often do I have to say that? As for R & C, I have never played it, so I can't really say anything about its status as RPG. Note though that there is a significant difference between an rpg and a game of another genre with RPG elements.
I never said TLOZ was an RPG. I said if it had those qualities it would be the kind of game I want
It doesn't matter. I've just been wondering if the only good rpg like games are online and that answer would persuade me to buy an X360.
I've played FE and it's pretty cool. It's set apart since it's a turn based army rpg. Kingdom Hearts is pretty cool too. The only problem is I can't find the 2 one anywhere.
You seriously can't find KH2? :oIt's everywhere...
If you have a PS2 or 3, though, you should see if you can find Skies of Arcadia. It's a PS1 game, but it's probably the best RPG ever. It's turn based though, so...
Actually, Star Ocean is a good one, it's not turn based, it's got a pretty unique battle system.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 15, 2007, 10:39:41 PM
TLOZ IS NOT AN RPG!!! How often do I have to say that?
Ahem... (from Dictionary.com)
Quoterole-playing game
n. A game in which players assume the roles of characters and act out fantastical adventures, the outcomes of which are partially determined by chance, as by the roll of dice.
Enemy movements in TLoZ series aren't the same every single time, and the AI lets enemies act accordingly to the player's position, which also isn't the same every time he or she has a playthrough. This can be one of the very many differences between success and a game over, and both are outcomes of adventures, are they not? That gives the series a chance factor, which also fits the definition.
Quote from: MagmarFire on November 16, 2007, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 15, 2007, 10:39:41 PM
TLOZ IS NOT AN RPG!!! How often do I have to say that?
Ahem... (from Dictionary.com)
Quoterole-playing game
n. A game in which players assume the roles of characters and act out fantastical adventures, the outcomes of which are partially determined by chance, as by the roll of dice.
Enemy movements in TLoZ series aren't the same every single time, and the AI lets enemies act accordingly to the player's position, which also isn't the same every time he or she has a playthrough. This can be one of the very many differences between success and a game over, and both are outcomes of adventures, are they not? That gives the series a chance factor, which also fits the definition.
That is a different kind of RPG you're talking about. That is the "non-computer" kind. It does not define the "videogame genre-RPG". TLOZ is not an RPG, Adventure, RTS, Fighting game, and/or whatever genre you can come up with that, qua name only, might give the impression it covers the subject.
Quote from: LadyNintendo on November 17, 2007, 01:04:10 AM
That is a different kind of RPG you're talking about. That is the "non-computer" kind. It does not define the "videogame genre-RPG".
Tell me how that defines only the non-computer kind of RPG. Why can it not define video game RPGs? It says, ". . .the outcomes of which are partially determined by chance,
as by the roll of dice." That "as by" just denotes an
example, not the only criterion for defining how chance is determined in a game. Ergo, you do not always need dice to give you a chance factor. My viewpoint gives me the impression that the definition describes both video games, and the definition supports my viewpoint.
And a dictionary definition is useful for this situation...how, exactly?
If you do in fact use that definition then the whole genre becomes useless. Every single video game fits that criteria. In situations like this, it is more logical to use the accepted definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_role-playing_game).
I wouldn't see how DDR,
Guitar Hero, Chess, etc. would fit into that category...but I see where you're getting at, Commodore. ;)
However, after reading this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_RPG), it seems to me that it's all a matter of how you look at the Zelda series. This section in particular seems to tell me that it being an RPG is considered neither right nor wrong at this time:
QuoteSome action RPGs decrease the importance of character attributes far enough to also be considered action-adventure games, and some recent action-adventure games (such as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas) have begun including RPG-like attributes along the lines of those in an action RPG. Action-adventure games that do not include character statistics (including the Legend of Zelda series but excluding Zelda II: The Adventure of Link) are also sometimes referred to as action RPGs, although this is often debated.[2] It is fair to say that the Action-RPG genre and the Action-Adventure genre have greatly influenced each other, and are closely related.
So it's up for debate. You're no more right than I am, and I'm no more right than you are.
Quote from: Knil on November 15, 2007, 07:04:24 PM
Can any1 tell me some good rpgs, or games with magic,swords; stuff like that, that aren't turn based or card based?
Link would be perfect as one of those games, but it would fit it better if you could chose a race, like Deku or Zora, and a wider variety of weapons
This can also be used to discuss good other rpgs that don't answer the question, if a topic like that hasn't been made.
May I introduce you to Radiata Stories? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiata_Stories)