I just got Radiant Dawn and I have to say, it is awesome. I have never played any FE games, and now I am hooked. I just finished playing through Easy mode, and am now trying to beat it in Normal mode. It is hard, but I'm gonna try.
If you have the game, what part are you up to and what have you accomplished? Tell me a bit about your experience with it. I wanna see where other people are.
Talk about any other FE game too.
Why couldn't this be a general FE thread?! D:
I never played any other FE game. But we can make it a general FE thread.
My goodness, you didn't have to take me seriously. ;)
FE 8 is the only one I've played. That FE 7 always seem to elude me. ::)
Yes I did.
If I did not, I would be found dead with verbal chloroform in my system
I have played all of the american releases, and FE6
And since i rented RD, i've yet to beat it
Two of the FE games that I played, JDog let me borrow (PoR and TSS). Boy, am I glad he did. I love the series! :D
And RD is, indeed, awesome. Wish they kept the old Support Conversation system, though... :'(
Normal Mode: Part 3- A Reason to Fight
This is as far as I've gotten. I started on Normal mode, because I've played FE games before, and I thought I could work my way through it. I DO know how to play, its just that its really really hard when you have extremely weak troops, and your in a dark enemy infested swamp. I really leveled up my characters when I was playing with Ike, but now I'm back with Sothe and the gang, and they have been doing absolutely nothing since I was last using them, so they suck. Even Tom Cruise(Nolan) who used to be pretty good, really sucks now. He's even leveled up to a Warrior. I haven't played the game much since I got Naruto Clash of Ninja Revolution (its a real party game).
Now, see, the old Support Conversation for me is units had to be standing next to each other for a certain number of turns. I heard that it was different for Path of Radiance; something like two units just have to be on the same field and then a support conversation could happen on the prep screen for the next chapter? What's it like in Radiant Dawn then?
Oh, and Goddess of the Dawn is a better subtitle than Radiant Dawn, but since Nintendo isn't using it, I'll just see if I can't use that as a chapter title for one of my fanfics. (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/FeetLord/Forum%20pics/emoticons/wink.gif)
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 04, 2008, 11:10:45 AM
Now, see, the old Support Conversation for me is units had to be standing next to each other for a certain number of turns. I heard that it was different for Path of Radiance; something like two units just have to be on the same field and then a support conversation could happen on the prep screen for the next chapter? What's it like in Radiant Dawn then?
Oh, and Goddess of the Dawn is a better subtitle than Radiant Dawn, but since Nintendo isn't using it, I'll just see if I can't use that as a chapter title for one of my fanfics. (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/FeetLord/Forum%20pics/emoticons/wink.gif)
Even if it was in Japan, N.A. would have dumbed it down so that religious audiences in America won't be offended.
Dude ZV, you obviously don't understand, you have the black knight, sothe, and nolan in your party, they are all very strong
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 04, 2008, 11:10:45 AM
Now, see, the old Support Conversation for me is units had to be standing next to each other for a certain number of turns. I heard that it was different for Path of Radiance; something like two units just have to be on the same field and then a support conversation could happen on the prep screen for the next chapter? What's it like in Radiant Dawn then?
It's something like this: You start out like you would in any classic Support system. Just have compatible units stand next to each other in adjacent spaces. When they develop enough trust, you can give them Support Bonuses.
The thing is, though, in the RD system, you can only have one unit support one other unit at a time. If you want to support another character, you'll have to delete all the other bonuses that you had with that units original Support partner. Plus, to (help, I guess) build more trust between units, units that are already supporting each other can have Support Conversations, but what I dislike about them is that they're exceedingly short. It's usually just one message box per character in the conversation. :-*
But everyone loves supporting with multiple fire affiliated people so they can get a crazy crit bonus! D:
And one message box per character?!?! How is that going to help establish back stories?! D:
Yeah ZV, you have Zihark too. He. Is. AWESOME
And HNS, if you pair certain characters up, some back stories do happen, but nothing major. Just marriages and stuff.
I'm not talking about after you beat the game. I'm talking about stuff you learn about characters during the support conversation.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 04, 2008, 11:37:37 AM
And one message box per character?!?! How is that going to help establish back stories?! D:
Now do you see why I miss the old system so much? :'(
Indeed. :'(
Well, at least you can still get crazy crit chances for your swordmasters, right?
Yup, 20% more Critical
Assassins get 25%
Quote from: Dr. Rabies on January 04, 2008, 11:23:16 AM
Dude ZV, you obviously don't understand, you have the black knight, sothe, and nolan in your party, they are all very strong
The Black Night left.
He was my indestructible God of blades.
Zihark is good, but Mrs. Silver Haired Maiden can't take a hit. She STILL sucks! Edward is leveled up, and I believe I changed his class once, but he's still no match for the Laguz...
Doesn't he (BK) reappear in the level later on?
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 04, 2008, 11:10:45 AM
Oh, and Goddess of the Dawn is a better subtitle than Radiant Dawn, but since Nintendo isn't using it, I'll just see if I can't use that as a chapter title for one of my fanfics. (http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/FeetLord/Forum%20pics/emoticons/wink.gif)
Yea! Another person that shares my opinion! :)
As you already know, Aurel, I can't remember at all where I'm at. But I think I killed Janaff... :o Someone tell me if he shows up in any cutscenes after the chapter where Ike's mercenaries and Micaiah+Co. first fight! (It's a survival win, so you can just stay on opposite ends of the long map and never have to fight at all) I swear, I think I really killed him... but you know how some characters say something like, "This wound's too deep. I'll retreat for now." when they die? well, I swear Janaff said something like that too so I thought it was fine and that chapter was bugging me too much anyway for me to retry it. I have Ulki, but Janaff is nowhere to be seen.... :(
Ummm, Rinku, if a character in your control gets killed, that's the end for them.
Quote from: Aureliano on January 04, 2008, 12:35:29 PM
Doesn't he (BK) reappear in the level later on?
he should
and ZV, you obviously don't know to pump all of you bonus exp into the main characters -_- plus there is only 1 good swordmaster in RD and you have to do something special to get him, that and sothe is indestructable in that one basically, if you used him right
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on January 04, 2008, 12:33:35 PM
Zihark is good, but Mrs. Silver Haired Maiden can't take a hit. She STILL sucks!
Wait, she's married? Didn't know that. :P
And of course she isn't the best unit. Her defense is extremely laughable, and Sacrifice doesn't really help her case any, either. Simply put, she's a mage unit, not a physical powerhouse.
And speaking of Zihark, I pulled an awesome six-some attack combo against a laguz. With that in mind, make sure that you have him equipped with a Brave Sword. Just saying. ;)
I am the original FE nut. I demand this becomes a general FE topic.
I did enjoy the backstory you could get from Supports, I can't believe they changed it...probably trying to 'spice things up'. For the love of God, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Indeed.
And stop thinking the mage units are weak because they have poor defense! Learn how to use them! >:(
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/FeetLord/Forum%20pics/YouFailedSoHard.jpg)
No kidding. Artur is a tank on my file. You just gotta make a wall of guys with good defense in front of them and have them fire over them until they get incredibly strong.
Geez, sorry...! Must've been being too general. ???
Well, that was more directed towards ZV, Magmar. Especially because he didn't give Ross, Amelia, or Ewan a chance.
Lute, Ewan, and Natasha are my magical tanks. Especially Natasha against monsters. Once I get around to training the secret characters, Selene is going to be a magical tank on a horse.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 04, 2008, 04:40:21 PM
Well, that was more directed towards ZV, Magmar. Especially because he didn't give Ross, Amelia, or Ewan a chance.
Er, I don't recall him saying more about mages than I. Come to think of it, did he even say anything about Ross, Amelia, and Ewan? Or was that just inside knowledge?
Inside knowledge. And I'm deducing that he thinks mages suck since he complained about who ever and you said she was a mage.
Okay, I gotcha. I guess it would also be possible that he was complaining about her because she's also a main character. You know...main character dies, game over, and all that jazz...
But on my part, maybe I was being too general. After all, Saleh is a beast with Excalibur, in my opinion... ;)
Saleh is a beast without Excalibur. I don't use the Sacred Twin weapons unless I absolutely have to kill something in one hit. Or if it's the only way to damage the enemy (and that's only one enemy, really).
About the whole mage thing, my maiden in RD has beastly def, PUMP THINGS INTO THE BAD STATS. Of course, noone has better def then my gatrie, who also negates enemy crits btw
What's the point of negating crits if they aren't going to do anything anyways?
in the event someone has an anti-armor weapon of course
Quote from: Aureliano on January 04, 2008, 12:41:37 PM
Ummm, Rinku, if a character in your control gets killed, that's the end for them.
No way. If Ranulf dies he'll say something that infers he's only retreating for now, like Janaff did, and of course you'll see him again later in your list of people. Or Mist. I don't like Mist, but she never truly dies, even when you try to kill her off intentionally...
Are you sure of that? I thought that important characters like that don't die, but you can't use them again if their HP gets to 0. :-\
I remember in PoR, if soren died he just retreated, but you couldn't use him again
Yeah, for the rest of the chapter, but what I'm saying is that Janaff also disappeared completely... :(
Also, something keeps logging me out every time I change screens.
IF A CHARACTER'S HP IS REDUCED TO ZERO, THEY ARE GONE FOR GOOD NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY.
They may say not die, but they will be too injured to ever fight again.
It's okay, I'm just in the denial stage... maybe if the game wasn't so long I'd start over... anyone beaten it yet? How many chapters are there? Do Ike+Mercenaries and Micaiah+Co. every mash together into one big nice army?
Also, bout Heather. I finally get me a female thief and she disappoints me to no end...
Quote from: Rinku on January 06, 2008, 11:00:05 AM
It's okay, I'm just in the denial stage... maybe if the game wasn't so long I'd start over... anyone beaten it yet? How many chapters are there? Do Ike+Mercenaries and Micaiah+Co. every mash together into one big nice army?
Also, bout Heather. I finally get me a female thief and she disappoints me to no end...
I did. There are a lot of chapters (4 parts), and they do merge to become a big army near the end chapters
IT's cause you didnt beef up heather enough rinku, rouges are your best friend beside Gatrie in RD
That would depend on the chapter, Dr. For instance, in "The Price," the enemy units are so overpowered. I even had a little trouble using Sothe because of it. >>
And I hope they mash into a big group soon. It feels like I'm betraying the other side. Besides, the Dawn Brigade needs more units badly. In "The Price," I ended up losing three units. :P
What? No restarting the chapter if you lose units? Even if I'm at the end of a chapter and I lose a unit, I immediately turn off the game and restart the chapter. I love all of them, even the so called "sucky" ones.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 06, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
What? No restarting the chapter if you lose units? Even if I'm at the end of a chapter and I lose a unit, I immediately turn off the game and restart the chapter. I love all of them, even the so called "sucky" ones.
Ever heard of a little book called "The Art of War"? Sacrifice is always important.
Yeah, but have you read The Art of e-War? The Reset button is important.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on January 06, 2008, 05:40:22 PM
Ever heard of a little book called "The Art of War"? Sacrifice is always important.
That's what the summoner's phantoms are for.
A sacrifice can often lead to gain if strategic measures are taken.
Or I could use different strategic measures to pwn everything and let all of my units live.
If units were meant to be sacrificed, they would've allowed us to recruit nameless enemy units for our cause.
"Soldier, go break down that wall."
"But I'll be killed by archers."
"That's okay. They'll replace you."
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 06, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
What? No restarting the chapter if you lose units? Even if I'm at the end of a chapter and I lose a unit, I immediately turn off the game and restart the chapter. I love all of them, even the so called "sucky" ones.
Dude, have you even
tried that chapter? With only eleven units? And with subpar Ally AI? And with, like, fifty superior enemy soldiers? Not easy... :P
What chapter of what game? Until one of you give me a Wii, PoR, and RD, I'm assuming all FE games are like TSS. And after one to three tries at a chapter, I was able to own everything in sight.
Subpar ally AI? Since when are we talking about Ritz or some random NPC in Sword of Mana?
I've been following this topic since its birth... and yet I have no idea what's going on... >_>
Except that, you know, Resetti from Animal Crossing would hate you, HNS.
Well, I'm going to hate him in Brawl, so we're even.
This is true.... u_u -nod-
Oh, and is FE like Stratego in any way? I love tactical games, but... being short on money makes buying good games kind of hard... u_u
I've never heard of
Stratego, but if it's tactical, then it's probably like FE in more ways than one. So, if
Stratego can be described as a combination of chess and a typical turn-based RPG, then it's a safe bet that they're alike.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 06, 2008, 06:00:52 PMSubpar ally AI? Since when are we talking about Ritz or some random NPC in Sword of Mana?
Didn't you hear? They had a cameo. :P
But seriously, there is something like the "recruitable allies" you mentioned earlier in PoR and RD, and you have limited control over them. You can (1) let them do their own thing and have no control over them at all, (2) hold their position, (3) move to a certain point on the map, or (4) avoid enemies completely. Thing is, you can't give commands to only one unit; you do it to one, you do it to all of them. That's where care is needed. And they'll only attack other units when you tell them to Roam (do their own thing)...I think.