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Zelda Games => N64 Games => Topic started by: iastreb on March 02, 2008, 06:24:58 AM

Title: Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 02, 2008, 06:24:58 AM
OK, I played my Gamecube version of OoT and I was Adult Link. I went to the Desert Colussus to find Nayru's love(behind the wall etc.) got it and then I wondered what will the Great Fairy say to me as Young Link. I did go back in time, and surprise! the door was allready bombed and the Great fairy said that will heal my wounds or something like that. Strange huh?  :o
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: MagmarFire on March 02, 2008, 09:04:43 AM
Well...from the perspective of time, that really does violate chaos theory. It's basically chaos theory in reverse! :P

But from an eventing perspective, perhaps Nintendo forgot/thought it was too much of a mess to have it so going back in time would turn off the switch that gave the wall form. The bomb would turn the switch on, and if it's on, then the wall would take no form. Going back in time didn't turn it off, so the wall's still not there.

That's how I see it, anyway. ;)
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 02, 2008, 09:22:37 AM
I think you should only get the spells as a kid.  Takes care of the time problem nicely.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 02, 2008, 09:58:29 AM
Whats the problem of getting it as an adult?  :-\
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Fishalicious on March 02, 2008, 11:55:11 AM
You just don't get it.

Adults are not capable of magic.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 02, 2008, 12:00:58 PM
What are supposed to be the Light Arrows then  ;) Its better being a kid but... the facts are facts  :D
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Fishalicious on March 02, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
Adults do not believe in magic.

the light arrows are just shiny.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 02, 2008, 02:12:10 PM
And Zelda is a clown. I'm 14 years old and I freakin' believe in magic! And told tell me I'm a kid!  :o
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Twilight Wolf on March 02, 2008, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: MagmarFire on March 02, 2008, 09:04:43 AM
Well...from the perspective of time, that really does violate chaos theory. It's basically chaos theory in reverse! :P

But from an eventing perspective, perhaps Nintendo forgot/thought it was too much of a mess to have it so going back in time would turn off the switch that gave the wall form. The bomb would turn the switch on, and if it's on, then the wall would take no form. Going back in time didn't turn it off, so the wall's still not there.

That's how I see it, anyway. ;)

The thing is, though, I believe the Gamecube version of OOT is a direct port of the original game. Essentially, you're playing the game on an emulator. The only way to find out for sure would be to have someone play the Nintendo 64 version of the game.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 02, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
I suppose I could do that.

As for Mark, Fisk is kidding around.  And I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.  Remember how you can't get Nayru's Love as a kid if you got it as an adult and how paradoxical it is?  If you can only get Din's Fire, Farore's Wind, and Nayru's Love as Child Link, the paradox goes away because if you got it as a child, then you can't get it as an adult.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Fishalicious on March 02, 2008, 06:31:29 PM
I am not joking around, HNS.

children have little... things in them. sparkly things.

they are magics.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 02, 2008, 06:33:17 PM
Gah!  You said you were!  Stop lying to me!  I'm your wife; you shouldn't be lying to me! DX
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: MagmarFire on March 02, 2008, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on March 02, 2008, 05:40:53 PM
The thing is, though, I believe the Gamecube version of OOT is a direct port of the original game. Essentially, you're playing the game on an emulator. The only way to find out for sure would be to have someone play the Nintendo 64 version of the game.

I don't see a difference. If both original releases and emulators run on eventing, then both should utilize switches to function. Otherwise, you'll just get a game in which you can go anywhere without getting Medallions or something like that...
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Twilight Wolf on March 02, 2008, 07:10:56 PM
That's why someone needs to check out a Nintendo 64 copy of OOT. Then we can find out if the original game is like that or maybe it's an emulation error. I'm thinking it's the latter.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 03, 2008, 02:14:28 AM
And so what? Think it in this way. if a n00b that has buyed OoT last week didn't get Dins Fire, Farore Wind and Nayrus love as a child, whats the problem of getting them as an adult?  ;) Its just a bug.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 07:13:11 AM
One, make sure you're using "noob" correctly, and two, it's about getting rid of the time paradox to add some sense to the game (which is what you're complaining about, is it not?).

Also, I don't think it's possible to get Din's Fire as an adult; you know, what with the destruction of the Hyrule Castle area and all.  Then again, I never did seek out that Great Faerie as Adult Link, so I could be wrong.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 03, 2008, 07:41:38 AM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 07:13:11 AM
Also, I don't think it's possible to get Din's Fire as an adult; you know, what with the destruction of the Hyrule Castle area and all.
You can't. Forgot about that.  ;) And by n00b I mean someone that isn't used to play Zelda-like games: Like me a couple of years ago  ::) . LoL
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 01:16:16 PM
A newb (short for newbie) is someone who is new to something.  A noob is someone who acts like an idiot.  Those two middle letters make a big difference, and if you don't want to accidentally insult someone, it would be wise to know what that difference is.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Commodore Axilon on March 03, 2008, 01:45:47 PM
Uh, seriously? I always thought they were the same thing, just that one had a lame "intarnetz" spelling.

and i think i'm right
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 02:17:26 PM
Well, you made your claim in italics, so it must be true.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 04, 2008, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 01:16:16 PM
A newb (short for newbie) is someone who is new to something.  A noob is someone who acts like an idiot.  Those two middle letters make a big difference, and if you don't want to accidentally insult someone, it would be wise to know what that difference is.
I allways thought n00b was newb just sayed in a different cooler way.  :-\ Whatever.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on March 05, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: $$!#Mark#!D@ on March 04, 2008, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 03, 2008, 01:16:16 PM
A newb (short for newbie) is someone who is new to something.  A noob is someone who acts like an idiot.  Those two middle letters make a big difference, and if you don't want to accidentally insult someone, it would be wise to know what that difference is.
I allways thought n00b was newb just sayed in a different cooler way.  :-\ Whatever.
Wrong!
Bring the glossary back in here!
Glossary: Newb/Noob. The Difference? (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060823)
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Commodore Axilon on March 05, 2008, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on March 05, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
Wrong!
Bring the glossary back in here!
Glossary: Newb/Noob. The Difference? (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060823)

Sorry, but using anything by Tim B^Uckley as proof of your position automatically makes said position wrong.

Therefore, "newb" and "noob" mean the same thing.

QED
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 06, 2008, 04:24:43 AM
Pretty funny thought.  :D
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Keaton on March 07, 2008, 04:31:02 AM
Quote from: $$!#Mark#!D@ on March 06, 2008, 04:24:43 AM
Pretty funny thought.  :D

Yeah, to a n00b.
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: iastreb on March 07, 2008, 12:15:10 PM
Quote from: kcalB rednaxelA noehcaT on March 07, 2008, 04:31:02 AM
Quote from: $$!#Mark#!D@ on March 06, 2008, 04:24:43 AM
Pretty funny thought.  :D

Yeah, to a n00b.
That was funny too.  :D
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Zelda Veteran on March 08, 2008, 02:13:27 PM
Quote from: Commodore Zoolander on March 05, 2008, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on March 05, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
Wrong!
Bring the glossary back in here!
Glossary: Newb/Noob. The Difference? (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060823)

Sorry, but using anything by Tim B^Uckley as proof of your position automatically makes said position wrong.

Therefore, "newb" and "noob" mean the same thing.

QED
Yeah, well screw you too Ben Stiller :P
Title: Re:Strange...
Post by: Keaton on March 17, 2008, 02:38:46 AM
WATCHING YOU'RE LANGUIDGE, PLES?