So, I am replaying MM again, and I've noticed several interesting things.
First of all, the clock town clocks have Keaton on them.
When you have a file on your cartridge that is completed, the title screen movie is different.
When you've beaten the Mask once, the scene on the clock tower roof is different.
This is probably obvious, but is still neat: Giant number 3 (Great Bay) tells you to 'save their friend'. At the time, you'd think they're referring to Stone Tower giant, but they're referring to the Skull Kid.
I've noticed some other things too, I just can't think of them right now.
EDIT: When you defeat Gyorg, Tatl says to the giant, 'Hey, Listen!'. Sound familiar?
Actually, the dialogue is different because you've already been explained about Skullkid getting lonely and blah... blah... blah.
Quote from: Aperture Science Weighed Companion Cube on May 03, 2008, 10:46:43 AM
EDIT: When you defeat Gyorg, Tatl says to the giant, 'Hey, Listen!'. Sound familiar?
.......No! Oh God not again!!!!
But yeah. I never noticed. That's pretty interesting.
...Does that mean I'm going to have to go through the whole game again? Because nothing changed for me. :'(
Not quite sure if this is the appropriate thread, but it's purpose seemed closest to what I intend as well as the earliest, so....
While browsing TV Tropes at random, I came across Numerological Motif (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NumerologicalMotif). When it got down to four, it pointed out the four cardinal compass directions (north, south, east, west) and the four elements of European tradition (fire, water, earth, air). And that's when it hit me.
One of the underlying themes of Majora's Mask is direction. There are four temples, each to the north, south, east, and west. Each temple can be assigned an element and from there an element can be assiged to a direction. To the north is Snowhead Temple, which is probably primarily a Goron temple, and Gorons are often associated with fire. Great Bay Temple in the west is obviously tied to water. Of the two elements left, Woodfall Temple in the south is most likely to be associated with earth; Dekus seemingly being able to burrow underneath the ground helps strengthen this conception. That leaves air to Stone Tower Temple in the east; the tower and temple extends high into the air, it was likely meant to be a bridge up to the heavens, and inverting the tower introduces the risk of falling up into the sky.
So, at least in Termina:
North = Fire
South = Earth
East = Air
West = Water
Yes, Mags, you can start expecting me to use that in my fanfics.
There is an alternative cutscene when you call the giants; if you do not have all of the giants saved, they slip and the moon continues to destroy everything.
Quote from: Winry Rockbell on December 22, 2009, 07:29:29 AM
Not quite sure if this is the appropriate thread, but it's purpose seemed closest to what I intend as well as the earliest, so....
While browsing TV Tropes at random, I came across Numerological Motif (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NumerologicalMotif). When it got down to four, it pointed out the four cardinal compass directions (north, south, east, west) and the four elements of European tradition (fire, water, earth, air). And that's when it hit me.
One of the underlying themes of Majora's Mask is direction. There are four temples, each to the north, south, east, and west. Each temple can be assigned an element and from there an element can be assiged to a direction. To the north is Snowhead Temple, which is probably primarily a Goron temple, and Gorons are often associated with fire. Great Bay Temple in the west is obviously tied to water. Of the two elements left, Woodfall Temple in the south is most likely to be associated with earth; Dekus seemingly being able to burrow underneath the ground helps strengthen this conception. That leaves air to Stone Tower Temple in the east; the tower and temple extends high into the air, it was likely meant to be a bridge up to the heavens, and inverting the tower introduces the risk of falling up into the sky.
So, at least in Termina:
North = Fire
South = Earth
East = Air
West = Water
Yes, Mags, you can start expecting me to use that in my fanfics.
There's perhaps one thing you can add to that: Four is Death (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourIsDeath). Four curses, four transformation masks, four days (including the New Day). And four just about everywhere else you mentioned.
Another interesting thing that is right in front of your face the entire time:
If you visit the farm on the third day without helping on the first, look carefully at Romani.
(She has lobotomy stitches)
Really?
I gotta try that one, It'll give me a reason to turn on my wii.
Quote from: Zaraki Kenpachi on January 22, 2010, 01:03:09 AM
Another interesting thing that is right in front of your face the entire time:
If you visit the farm on the third day without helping on the first, look carefully at Romani.
My brother got a new TV; I'll have to try that one out myself supposing he was able to connect the N64 to it.
Quote from: Zaraki Kenpachi on January 22, 2010, 01:03:09 AM
Another interesting thing that is right in front of your face the entire time:
If you visit the farm on the third day without helping on the first, look carefully at Romani.
(She has lobotomy stitches)
...Oh, wow... Poor girl. :(
I just checked the lobotomy stitches, and I'm not sure if it's different on the original N64, but I couldn't see them on the Virtual Console version.
They're definitely on the N64 version, I'm looking at them right now.
Would it be possible for you to post pictures of it? Looks like I won't be able to.
I was hoping for pictures too.
It sounds really funny/cool.
Not sure how i'll be able to post pics without downloading an emulator ;__;
Can you try taking a picture of your TV?
Sure the quality will be crap, but i actually really want to see this.
I take it you don't have a capture card, either? Crap.
audio/video splitter~
but uh.... fff. I keep saying "oh, yeah, I found something really cool in MM I have to share" and the second I see this topic I forget it.
ACTUALLY I REMEMBERED THIS TIME. Anyway, in the first cutscene, where Skull Kid takes Epona and all that rot with the turning into a deku and stuff? Take a close look at where Skull Kid is hovering.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/33u75lc.png)
There is an inverted triforce underneath him. :3 I wonder if it's got something to do with the mask's malice?
It's more of nintendo trying to get us to overthink and blow up our brains!
I'd actually noticed that before, but then wrote it off as "This is an alternate dimension, filled with opposites, so why would the triforce be any different"
The Stock Pot Inn during the Kafei and Anju quest? You must steal a room reservation made by a Goron under your same name.
The Gorons of OoT had a Goron named after you, as well, because Darunia named his son after you, didn't he? If so, either there is a dimension hopping Goron or a little cameo of OoT.
I think it's a Cameo. After all, Link (The goron in OoT) hasn't been born yet. They named him after you coming to the goron city. So he is born in the 7 years between. He's obviously much older than Link (In OoT). So how could he dimension hop and grow older?
Also, I lost my train of thought halfway through writing that so sorry if it makes little sense.
MM is all about time. It's more than likely that Termina is many years ahead of Hyrule, as is evidenced by some of their more advanced technology (like clocks).
Not to mention that the Great Bay Temple is pretty steampunk itself.
Yes, there are motorboats and the like all over the place.
Termina is essentially a flipped Hyrule, really, in more ways than one.
Please, do explain.
Quote from: Sfikx on February 14, 2010, 10:42:18 AM
audio/video splitter~
but uh.... fff. I keep saying "oh, yeah, I found something really cool in MM I have to share" and the second I see this topic I forget it.
ACTUALLY I REMEMBERED THIS TIME. Anyway, in the first cutscene, where Skull Kid takes Epona and all that rot with the turning into a deku and stuff? Take a close look at where Skull Kid is hovering.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/33u75lc.png)
There is an inverted triforce underneath him. :3 I wonder if it's got something to do with the mask's malice?
I read somewhere about how it could hint at Link's seperation from the others....or...just...here. XD
QuoteI just started playing this game again, and I almost immediately found something I hadn't seen before...in the room where Link becomes a deku, the light on the ground in front of him has a symbol in it...two pieces of the Triforce connected, and one piece separated below it. Could this symbolize Link being separated from the other two, or maybe Ganon's imprisonment? Hmm...
Also, I don't think Romani has a stitch. I think she was just brainwashed by the aliens.
I didn't see any stitches... sooo....
Also, I think Nintendo is just throwing these in to make you all think too much.
So, I'm watching Donnabellez's (http://www.youtube.com/user/donnabellez/videos?view=0) Let's Play of Majora's Mask, and in the third episode she's trying to catch the Bombers to get the code. While she's trying to catch the kids in East Clock Town, both of them run behind the guard. Donnabellez tries to slip by the guard by walking backwards against the wall, and she slips by and accidentally walk out into Termina Field. Did anyone know you could leave Clock Town as a Deku Scrub by that method?
Also, the cows you can find around Clock Town are bobbleheads. Just roll into the wall/counter/whatever they're on to get the heads shaking.
You just noticed that about the cows? 8)
Oh, wait, yeah, I remember that the cows are bobbleheads now. It's just been a while since I've played it myself, and I can't check it out myself anymore since my parents sold the N64.
Why, pray tell, would they do that? D: