There is this new website thats selling sound frequencies that can supposedly get you high. I haven't tried any of them myself, but people have put them on rapidshare. Apparently they can induce the same affects of Cocaine, Heroin, Meth, and other drugs. Some can relax you, and relieve headaches. The most interesting one I found was one that can SUPPOSEDLY give you an out of body experience. I find that hard to believe. You can only do these with a good pair of headphones, and you have to listen for a long time with your eyes closed. I have friends that have done them, and they swear they work.
I have 2 friends in particular who do this almost everyday, and its LEGAL. It won't show up in drug-tests, and you don't actually put substances into your body like real drugs, so it has no negative affects on your body. I didn't find any threads here that covered this, so I thought I'd bring it up. Any skepticism?
How would this even possibly work? There's no conceivable way a sound wave could induce that same effects in a person as a physical chemical substance.
I'm betting this is all just a placebo effect. People think it's going to have an effect on them, so it does.
Edit: I always get "affect" and "effect" mixed up. I'm not even sure I corrected it properly.
And now Commodore has ruined any chance members of TDC might have had of getting high off of sound waves.
Thanks, Commie.
It all depends on whether you think I'm right or not.
Answer: I'm always right.
Quote from: Commodore Boo on June 19, 2008, 05:18:01 PM
It all depends on whether you think I'm right or not.
Answer: I'm always right.
I had the same notion Commodore.
I completely agree with you.
I can do it legally now?
I'm there.
I wouldn't think that sound would cause euphoric feelings, and the only thing sound related I can think of altering feelings would be infrasound, which has been known to cause feelings of awe, fear, and pressure on the chest--feelings commonly associated with witnessing paranormal phenomena.
Yes, the Placebo Effect seems to be a likely cause.
Well, some sounds might give you an adrenaline rush, and I believe adrenaline is chemically simalar to amphetamines (speed), so that might be the case there. Although there are many ways to get high on adrenaline.
*Goes to see if adrenaline and speed are really chemically similar, or if I just made that up.
Edit: Yes, that is indeed the case. (http://www.xs4all.nl/~4david/amphetam.html)
Then...is it possibly infrasound?
NOBODY TELL JQ.
And I think that it is scientifically plausible (he says, ignoring all posts but the first handful), because resonance can do weird things to people.
Very weird thing.
Quote from: Slevin Kelevra on June 20, 2008, 12:11:35 PM
NOBODY TELL JQ.
And I think that it is scientifically plausible (he says, ignoring all posts but the first handful), because resonance can do weird things to people.
Very weird thing.
1. JQ is hard at hearing.
2. Yes, it CAN happen.
3. Its probable that a a good handful of them work, and another handful of them have the placebo effect.
I'm not so sure it would matter if he could hear or not, because the frequency is interfacing with the brain directly, as opposed to being converted into sound.
Or indirectly. In certain rooms, certain frequencies can cause your eyeballs to resonate, making you see...things...
If you're going to take a hallucinogenic, make sure you're with a TRUSTWORTHY friend. I wouldn't suggest having fears either. Anything you think of becomes a reality when it comes to hallucinating. Here's the real crazy part-
The things that come out of your imagination can actually kill you. You can have a heart-attack and die. Its scary business, and I wouldn't recommend anything that makes you see things.
It's true you can have a panic attack, but probably not a heart attack. Stuff in your imagination doesn't come 'suddenly alive', it's mostly interesting colors/patterns.
Of course, it could cause psychotropic hallucinations, but they wouldn't be fatal...
You can't literally be scared to death. That's the stuff of movies, not real life.
You can go catatonic, however.
That's extremely rare though.
Being that I suffer from chronic panic attacks, I can tell you that, no, you can't be "scared to death."
However, it can feel like you're going to die-it feels a bit like having a heart attack. Your chest and throat tighten and there's a piercing pain for a while (sometimes upward of an hour) and then it dies down.
It could actually work now that I think about it. Like DW said, certain sounds can trigger epinephrine release (the hormone that creates adrenaline) so all that would have to be done is release the endorphins that cause euphoria.
Of course, anything can trigger that, even chocolate, just not very much. The mind's a complicated thing, and we still only use about 10% of it.
Wow.
I wish I knew all them fancy werdz ya b usin.
But I can see what you mean.
Its true we only use 10%.
Some people say that if were to use 100% of it, anything could be possible.
ANYTHING.
Isn't that crazy?
It's NOT true that we 'use' only 10%. If we 'used' only ten percent then we wouldn't have a need for the other 90% and someone could survive a bullet to the head, which is DEFINITELY not the case. The Brain has a lot more with it than conscious thought. Look at the map of the brain, each section of the brain takes over certain functions like movement and senses, as well as thought and memory.
My point is that even though we study it as much as we do, the brain's still hard to predict and has a lot more potential than we know. So, who's to say what is or isn't possible in the psyche?
Nothing is a total load! Not if you can imagine it! That's what being a magical elf (er...scientist.) is all about.
Isn't that whole "we use only 10% of our brain" thing just some idea that someone came up with to make people think they could have psychic powers if they were able to use the whole 100%?
One thing I thought would be a cool experiment is to have some sort of contest between two groups of people (like playing a sport) where one group listens to aggressive, fast paced music an hour or so beforehand and the other group listens to slower paced music. It would be cool to see the results of that.
What if one side was just full of better athletes than the others though?
I thought the same thing myself.
Of course you would have to test it under a constant, possibly having one team play against another team (although always the same team against the same team) like, say, nine different times. Three without any music, three with energetic music, and three with soothing music. Then, take the averages and see if there's any correlation.
That's the only scientific way to go about it.
Music definitely alters moods, and changes you. Its a powerful thing that goes beyond our own comprehension. Like who decided that a certain frequency could evoke the "scared" emotion? Like the music to "The Exorcist" or "Signs". It just clicked as an eerie type of music.
God, I loved the music in Signs. Who could've known that three simple notes could be so emotionally evocative?