First of all, a child is suspended (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJF1No5JQPQ&feature=related) for writing down student's names in a Death Note. I can see how they would take it seriously, but come on. To suspend the kid for doing nothing? Its dumb.
Second of all, if you thought THAT was stupid, you haven't seen anything yet. A child ACTUALLY KILLS HIMSELF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b49450J6MhY) by burying himself in a sandbox SUPPOSEDLY imitating Gaara. Now look- you think the kid would be smart enough to know that if you don't breath- you die. Another instance where the stupidity of an American child sparks a lot of stupid adults who don't pay attention to what their kids see on TV.
This is just so upsetting. 8)
OMG, I hope my name is not within that list, jk jk. Yea, I agree ZV. The people of america are really stupid... I mean you honestly think just by writting names in a death note, its not like he did anything technically... and that kid, was he... all in the head??? :o
Aside from the whole 'kids dying' factor, you must admit that's kind of funny.
Agreed 100% (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nij8YRyoiJ4)
Writing someone's name in a book said to kill whoever's name is in it is just like making a list of people you want to kill, it's pretty serious
Quote from: Dr Rabies on July 03, 2008, 10:16:18 PM
Writing someone's name in a book said to kill whoever's name is in it is just like making a list of people you want to kill, it's pretty serious
Nah, not really. I mean, maybe if they were older, but kids are kids. They don't understand the long-term ramifications of death fully... and so to them it's just a way to rid themselves of nuisances.
The guy was a senior in High School...
Point is, there's something wrong with the person, not the show. Unless you're saying the show makes people insane. *shrug*
still, schools take any threat, serious or not, 100% seriously, and that's basically a death threat "Oh i dont like you so i'm going to write your name in this book and you'r gonna die!"
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 03, 2008, 10:20:46 PM
The guy was a senior in High School...
Point is, there's something wrong with the person, not the show. Unless you're saying the show makes people insane. *shrug*
Have you ever read the book, "When the Tripods Came"?
It's pretty neat. There's this show that all these kids are watching called "The Trippy Show", and it has subliminal messaging in it. Then, once all the kids are watching it (and most of the parents, too) these Tripods show up and everyone's defenseless thanks to the brainwashing effects of the show.
...Do you think that's actually happening? Because otherwise I imagine there'd be a lot more cases than this one.
If it were an award winning movie, nobody would say jacks*** about it. BUT NO! ITS THEM DERN TEENAGERZ CARTOONZ!! GRRDANGIT THY TUK R JERBS!!
(http://www.idkwtf.com/videos/latest-videos/thumbnails/they-took-our-jobs-south-park-small.jpg)
Sorry, but typing in the "Really stupid Adult" style, reminded me of one of my favorite South Park episode.
..no, I don't. You just reminded me of it.
It's actually a four-part series, and When the Tripods Came was written last, but chronologically comes first. The other books are The White Mountains, The City of Lead and Gold, and Something Else.
It sounds interesting, who exactly is it by?
"Court overturns father's grounding of 12-year-old (http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=a0a1ba1e-6da4-4ca9-93b8-942a54192480)"
The girl sued her own father. But you know why she was grounded? She was posting bad pictures of herself up on the internets and chatting on inappropriate sites.
"Anti-spanking bill heads to House of Commons after Senate approval (http://www.macleans.ca/science/wire/article.jsp?content=n0618136A)"
Er... the world all the way 'round is stupid. This isn't actually American stuff I got it from.
I heard a while ago that some kid drowned himself looking for Sponge-Bob and his Pineapple under the sea ;)
Okay, that settles it. Apparently God is weeding out the not-so-bright so only the smart survive. Why do I see no bike helmets lately?
It seems my Death Note actually works then.
Makes sense.
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on July 03, 2008, 10:00:38 PM
First of all, a child is suspended (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJF1No5JQPQ&feature=related) for writing down student's names in a Death Note. I can see how they would take it seriously, but come on. To suspend the kid for doing nothing? Its dumb.
Second of all, if you thought THAT was stupid, you haven't seen anything yet. A child ACTUALLY KILLS HIMSELF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b49450J6MhY) by burying himself in a sandbox SUPPOSEDLY imitating Gaara. Now look- you think the kid would be smart enough to know that if you don't breath- you die. Another instance where the stupidity of an American child sparks a lot of stupid adults who don't pay attention to what their kids see on TV.
This is just so upsetting. 8)
Yeah, I heard about the Gaara story a while ago in Otaku Club. What's really stupid is that the kid wasn't that young, either. He was, like, eight or nine. "If I bury myself in sand, it's not like I'm gonna suffocate!" DUH! :P
And about the Death Note, I will agree that it is a little ridiculous, but it's considered a threat. You can't really blame them after Columbine and stuff.
Actually, I almost got suspended in 3rd grade for drawing a picture of these girls I loathed in school, hanging. But my teacher was so nice, she didn't show it to the principal. You rock, Mrs. H.! ;)
Please see "Darwin awards"
Well, it's sad that the kid died. My heart goes out to the parents, but, still, the kid was a moron. I don't think the kid had any mental condition, either, did he?
"Dur dur dur!" lol
I have to admit, I think these kids might jsut get a little too carried away with pretending and having fun. Sure, it's sad. But if you were the same age you would do the same things too.
I wouldn't pretend to death.
I used to play pretend when I was young, but not pretend to the extreme where its like I'm on shrooms.
You have never been on shrooms. therefore, your point is invalid.
For the second case, this is a child. Children believe that they have all sorts of super powers like they see on TV. (I once jumped out my bedroom window thinking I could fly. Luckily, I didn't get hurt.) It is more the naivity of children rather than pure stupidity that caused his sad death.
As for the first one with the Death Note, he deserved it. That actually counts as bullying, which usually results in suspension.
Oh yeah, to comment on the anti-spanking thing, that counts as child abuse, which is illegal in America, so a parent could actually get sued for that. It's hitting a child, which, last time I checked, is child abuse.
Oh, and ZV, that isn't true. Lots of adults blame award winning movies. Look at A Clockwork Orange. It inspired bank robbings, murders, and other crimes, and Stanley Kubrick, the director, even got death threats. (No wonder it was banned in England.)
Right...see, I was just playing Grand Theft Auto IV last night, and I thought to myself, "Gee! Wouldn't it be awesome to go around shooting people in real life and send the cops away with a push of my cell phone button?"
But then I realized my phone was dead and I decided not to.
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on July 05, 2008, 06:10:23 AM
I wouldn't pretend to death.
I used to play pretend when I was young, but not pretend to the extreme where its like I'm on shrooms.
Hey, sometimes I believe that I could become a Naruto Nin myself if I trained real hard. Sometimes I even think that we have Chakra. But then I think, "Hey! Naruto is just an anime. There's no such thing as Chakra." I even used to believe that Pokemon were real. I would pretend to be a Pokemon Trainer.
And what Whocares said is right. Children are
CHILDREN, they don't know what's real and what's not real until a certain age. They're just having fun, it's not like it's a sin or anything.
Child abuse is maltreatment of a child.
Hitting =/= Child abuse.
It's excessive amounts that count as child abuse. The reason it's so heavily disputed is because there is no angel to fly down and say "no moar than 2 times a day!" about the matter.
So, while abusive parent might be like "-SPANK- what did i tell you about saying please and thank you?!!?!?", the other extremist may say "oh, hitting a child is horrible, that doesn't make them behave."
Uh... if you ask me, there is a happy medium-my sister has never been hit on purpose in her life, and if she has, it was relatively tame. As a result, she is a total brat.
I have been hit, I am emotionally scarred because of it.
Some would disagree, Fisk. I certainly know that I do.
I don't believe that a person should ever purposely inflict harm upon their child. There are much better ways to go about disciplining a child than physical abuse.
Of course, you can offer your anecdote about your sister, and I can counter with my own. But anecdotes are completely useless.
Actually, looking back at that post, I was kinda ridiculous. Sorry about that.
I don't think that people should beat their kids, I just think that physical discipline is occasionally needed, and never beyond a slap on the hand.
I'm very much against child abuse of any kind, I just don't think that just a hit is really that bad. u_u Granted, I am personally more afraid of yelling as opposed to hitting (I've grown kinda accustomed to it, I guess?) and that probably plays a much bigger role.
lol teen angstttt
Quote from: COMM-E on July 05, 2008, 04:46:45 PM
I don't believe that a person should ever purposely inflict harm upon their child. There are much better ways to go about disciplining a child than physical abuse.
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Ok, I can understand the names in the Death Note.
Parents who don't know anything about it, were told, "You're childs name is written in a threat list."
I would be concerned, especially after 2 major school shootings.
The kid in the sandbox.
That one will go down forever as the pinnacle of Darwin awards.
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 05, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Yeah, that's the only alternative to beating 'em.
Quote from: TP Zeldatard on July 05, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
I have to admit, I think these kids might jsut get a little too carried away with pretending and having fun. Sure, it's sad. But if you were the same age you would do the same things too.
Um, I don't think if I were nine, that I'd think I wouldn't die if I buried myself in sand. I mean, seriously, by that age, a kid should have some common sense. I could see if it was possibly a six-year old. But nine is a little too old to not know that you can't live without breathing.
Quote from: COMM-E on July 05, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 05, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Yeah, that's the only alternative to beating 'em.
Not really, as a child i got whipped with a belt, true back then it was alright to do that to your kid, but still, it straightened me out. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but punishment, like taking things away from a kid, is much less effective then a spanking.
I don't think it's possible to justify hitting a child. For every case of "It worked for me" there is another where it ruined a child, even just a slap on the wrist is too far in my opinion.
You're right. It isn't justified. There are better ways to handle spoiled child. How 'bout Super Nanny?
Anyway, this is getting off-topic. And this is in GD, too.
Quote from: Dr Rabies on July 06, 2008, 05:29:59 AM
Quote from: COMM-E on July 05, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 05, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Yeah, that's the only alternative to beating 'em.
Not really, as a child i got whipped with a belt, true back then it was alright to do that to your kid, but still, it straightened me out. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but punishment, like taking things away from a kid, is much less effective then a spanking.
Quite the contrary. It was because my parents took so much stuff away from me, that I was so bored that I turned to Fox News. And the rest is history.
I got beat when I was little- sometimes over things that weren't even my fault. But its because of discipline that I'm the guy I am today. Parents should have the right to spank their child, but only with a belt or the hand. My friend Dave used to get beat with extension cords, and lamps XD
Quote from: Dr Rabies on July 06, 2008, 05:29:59 AM
Quote from: COMM-E on July 05, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 05, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Yeah, that's the only alternative to beating 'em.
Not really, as a child i got whipped with a belt, true back then it was alright to do that to your kid, but still, it straightened me out. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but punishment, like taking things away from a kid, is much less effective then a spanking.
I was being sarcastic.
There's obviously other disciplinary methods between the two.
I was hit, but neither beaten nor abused. Just enough to get the point across.
Then again, when I was a child, parents were encouraged to switch their children.
Quote from: Vaati on July 06, 2008, 04:45:02 AM
Quote from: TP Zeldatard on July 05, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
I have to admit, I think these kids might jsut get a little too carried away with pretending and having fun. Sure, it's sad. But if you were the same age you would do the same things too.
Um, I don't think if I were nine, that I'd think I wouldn't die if I buried myself in sand. I mean, seriously, by that age, a kid should have some common sense. I could see if it was possibly a six-year old. But nine is a little too old to not know that you can't live without breathing.
Well, that's just you. Not every kid does that.
And ZV, I don't think there should be an "XD" after "My friend Dave used to get beat with extension cords, and lamps". It's not funny.
Yeah, she's right, that's pretty insensitive.
No, no, he thinks its funny too.
We always laugh about the stuff we used to get beat with.
Sorry, I didn't inform you guys that Dave and I joke about it, and aren't all butt-hurt about it.
mah bad.
It's not funny, man...it's just not... :-*
Look, obviously Dave and ZV don't really care that they got beat, and even have the balls to look back and laugh. It isn't child abuse, so just chill guys.
Making Death Mountain out of a Minish Hole.
Quote from: Dragmire on July 06, 2008, 08:12:05 PM
Look, obviously Dave and ZV don't really care that they got beat, and even have the balls to look back and laugh. It isn't child abuse, so just chill guys.
Making Death Mountain outof a Minish Hole.
You, my good sir, have a good perspective on things. Thanks, I don't think I could have said that any better myself :P
Oh, and nice analogy.
Quote from: COMM-E on July 05, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: Awesome Ninja on July 05, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Thing is, you do this 'take away their iPod for a week' crap and they still grow up spoiled.
Yeah, that's the only alternative to beating 'em.
What I mean is that parents shouldn't be so afraid of being too mean to their kids. If they do something huge, maybe a really strict punishment is called for. I've seen some really retarded crap.
Quote from: Dragmire on July 06, 2008, 08:12:05 PM
Look, obviously Dave and ZV don't really care that they got beat, and even have the balls to look back and laugh. It isn't child abuse, so just chill guys.
Making Death Mountain out of a Minish Hole.
Were you ever beaten when you were like 2-4 years old? Cause you cannot understand how damaging it can be unless you've been beaten at a very young age.
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 06, 2008, 11:23:02 PM
Quote from: Dragmire on July 06, 2008, 08:12:05 PM
Look, obviously Dave and ZV don't really care that they got beat, and even have the balls to look back and laugh. It isn't child abuse, so just chill guys.
Making Death Mountain out of a Minish Hole.
Were you ever beaten when you were like 2-4 years old? Cause you cannot understand how damaging it can be unless you've been beaten at a very young age.
Beaten at that young of an age IS child abuse. It's unnecessary and proves (above all else) a lack of creativity and
intelligence on the parent's part. There are many ways, at that age, to positively reinforce good behavior while at the same time punishing the bad-- without all the terror of a beat-down.
And ZV: A lamp? Wow. The worst thing I was hit with was a spiked belt (ala Kiss)-- but I had that one coming. I practically destroyed this kid's clavicle with a pencil when he said some unspeakable things about my mom. Years of therapy and Marine training got my anger issues out, though.
By NO means is that the worst thing he's been beat with... The poor kid. FOR STARTERS, his mom broke a chair over his head just a few days ago. He's 16 now.
The fact that he IS beaten and still with a lamp, chair, extension cords is pretty sad and no laughing matter in and of itself.
Yeah, we don't laugh about what happens these days.
I pray for him all the time. 8)
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 07, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
The fact that he IS beaten and still with a lamp, chair, extension cords is pretty sad and no laughing matter in and of itself.
Agreed. ZV, seriously... You should call the cops. That kind of thing shouldn't go unpunished. I can't think of anything that's punishable enough to have a chair broken over your head about.
Damn, that just makes me sick...
Actually yes I have been beaten at the age of 4, and no, I'm not damaged.
I don't even care. It straightened me out. I hold nothing against my father, he only did it so I would stop being a pest.
Besides, I don't even know what age ZV got beat, but I'm assuming that if he is old enough to remember, he was old enough then.
And yes, technically it would be child abuse, by law, but by my standards, no, if used appropriately.
And this is comming from a 14 year old.
Also, if he's able to laugh about, then it's not like its traumatizing. He didnt come out as a deranged person, nothing really bad come from the beatings.
You guys are taking this too seriously.
Geez...
Some of us DO get damaged though, and to us, it IS a big deal.
No, I don't think that this is taking it too seriously. If he can laugh about being beaten with a lamp or a chair, then something is seriously wrong. That's why I recommended calling the cops: from what I've heard here, his life is endangered.
It makes us all sick.
Its his adoptive mom, and everyone hates her.
She's got crooked cops on her side, so the police are moot.
David never deserves any of it either.
One time recently, she kicked him out of the house which is illegal on her part. Buuuut, thanks to her cops, she filed him as a runaway instead, which is illegal on his part.
Then, when he came home, she slammed him in the face with the Imperial Star Destroyer that he built, and hot-glued together out of Legos. It was his baby, and he was really protective over it. To make matters worse for him, he was saving up money to buy his girlfriend something for her birthday. He had $60 saved up and hidden, and that demon found it, and took it all.
Social services?
That's what I'm thinking, too. You should tell your parents, too, because they can help. Your teachers, too, if you can. Heck, tell any trustworthy adult you know.
Well, geez ZV, I thought you were on my side.
No matter, no one on this site ever is.
Anyway, I had no idea that it was still going. As you get older, its not effective as a punishment, and has to stop after age 10. And beating a child with anything other than a blunt object to the buttox, is WRONG.
Plus, if you is beating him, with the intent of hurting him, YES that is bad, and cops should be called.
Theres a diffference between beating a kid, and BEATING a kid.
Nothing is wrong Zelda veteran. He has no problems.
He, from what I pick up, has nothing against his parents.
But this Dave guy, he is in trouble.
What exactly does David do?
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on July 07, 2008, 12:12:12 AM
It makes us all sick.
Its his adoptive mom, and everyone hates her.
She's got crooked cops on her side, so the police are moot.
David never deserves any of it either.
One time recently, she kicked him out of the house which is illegal on her part. Buuuut, thanks to her cops, she filed him as a runaway instead, which is illegal on his part.
Then, when he came home, she slammed him in the face with the Imperial Star Destroyer that he built, and hot-glued together out of Legos. It was his baby, and he was really protective over it. To make matters worse for him, he was saving up money to buy his girlfriend something for her birthday. He had $60 saved up and hidden, and that demon found it, and took it all.
That's what he said, Shika. He hasn't done anything, but like I said before, I can't think of anything that's punishable by beating your kid over the head with a chair.
He never said what David does with his time though.
...Are you saying you can think of something that breaking a chair over a kid's head would be a decent punishment for?
...I'm with TW on this one, Shika.
DEFEND YOUR DECISION
Dragmire, we were laughing about when we were kids. But the fact is, for David, its still happening today. And what does David do in his spare time? Lets see:
X Box
TV
Legos
Cloud gazing (He's like totally obsessed with clouds)
Going for walks
Skating with me and Sean
(He's actually the guy on the swing in the beginning, and the black guy getting out of the pool with Sean at the end)
And talking with his girlfriend.
His girlfriend... Jeez. David's mom made the statement "If that little ______ ever shows her face around here, I'll punch her little lights out."
My parents know, but my dad says its best not to get involved in things. David fears that if his adoptive dad gains custody of him, he'll have to move away. He says he'll take all the punishment his mom can dish out if it means he gets to see his gf's face every day.
When he was 18, he was supposed to back to his real parents in Japan. His real name was Kio in fact. However, his mother died recently, and David's real dad said that it was his mother's dying wish that he not go to Japan. David's real mom loved him with all of her heart, so we know something isn't right. Now, we're looking for apartments, because as soon as Dave turns 18, she's throwing him out.
QuoteDragmire, we were laughing about when we were kids. But the fact is, for David, its still happening today. And what does David do in his spare time? Lets see:
X Box
TV
Legos
Cloud gazing (He's like totally obsessed with clouds)
Going for walks
Skating with me and Sean
(He's actually the guy on the swing in the beginning, and the black guy getting out of the pool with Sean at the end)
And talking with his girlfriend.
His girlfriend... Jeez. David's mom made the statement "If that little ______ ever shows her face around here, I'll punch her little lights out."
My parents know, but my dad says its best not to get involved in things. David fears that if his adoptive dad gains custody of him, he'll have to move away. He says he'll take all the punishment his mom can dish out if it means he gets to see his gf's face every day.
When he was 18, he was supposed to back to his real parents in Japan. His real name was Kio in fact. However, his mother died recently, and David's real dad said that it was his mother's dying wish that he not go to Japan. David's real mom loved him with all of her heart, so we know something isn't right. Now, we're looking for apartments, because as soon as Dave turns 18, she's throwing him out.
GET THAT ******* *** IN JAIL ALREADY!!!!! Does a GUN have to be forced to your head to convince you?! She was never a fit parent to begin with, and deserves to rot in jail. She is abusing her child both physically and mentally, which is completely and totally illegal by United States law. I don't care about whatever doubts you have or whatever anyone else tells you. Consider how much danger David is in.
And I do agree with you, ZV. There is most likely something going on with that. I doubt a loving mother, in her dying moments, would ever even consider having her son be kept in the care of an abusive mother.
Also, others here have posted that hitting a child is okay as long as it is merely a slap on the hand or a simple spank. It is NEVER, under ANY circumstances, okay to hit a child. That is unforgivable.
Also, I suggest one of the moderators move the child abuse posts into a different topic about child abuse (I remember that mods can move certain posts to other topics and stuff).
Quote from: Dragmire on July 07, 2008, 12:52:37 AM
Well, geez ZV, I thought you were on my side.
No matter, no one on this site ever is.
Actually, I'm quite on your side. I was physically disciplined in my childhood, too, but it wasn't serious. Just look where I am now, though: I follow rules and try to uphold them. I think my parents did something correctly there. Sure, today it might be considered child abuse, but these laws are changed with a
vote. They haven't been tried and tested like physical discipline has, which has been used for decades, if not centuries. I think it can be effective if used correctly--as in not in excess or not too severely. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if these laws being created to combat social evolution are part of the reason why our society is starting to get worse and worse.
But seriously...with David having to endure this crap...I could pretty much pulverize a stress ball right now. Sounds to me like his "mom" uses him to channel her own anger, and that's just not right. Everyone here can agree that there are limits to this, but this one exceeds it tenfold. My prayers go out to him. But I tell you the truth, you need to get him out of there. Get that deranged
bandûla out of his life. This is...just an unspeakable abomination. Please...just get him out of there ASAP...
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on July 07, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
(He's actually the guy on the swing in the beginning, and the black guy getting out of the pool with Sean at the end)
I forgot to mention that that text was referring to a skate video I made which can be found here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQf8ouiaZz8)
Quote from: MagmarFire on July 07, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
But seriously...with David having to endure this crap...I could pretty much pulverize a stress ball right now. Sounds to me like his "mom" uses him to channel her own anger, and that's just not right. Everyone here can agree that there are limits to this, but this one exceeds it tenfold. My prayers go out to him. But I tell you the truth, you need to get him out of there. Get that deranged bandûla out of his life. This is...just an unspeakable abomination. Please...just get him out of there ASAP...
Believe me man, we've tried. But David says rather than start taking legal action and getting things hyped up, he'll just endure it for 2 more years. He says its worth it as long as he gets to stay here with the people he loves.
Sounds like this guy is the second coming...
He must have the patience of a saint
-rim shot-
Ok bad pun.
But seriously, he sounds like he is a cool guy.
EDIT: I think more people should know about this.
ZV, if you would, make a new topic explaining the situation?
The weird thing is...
He really is a saint.
He's never started a fight-
never thrown a punch at Sean or me, (despite how much a douche we are sometimes) :P
He does things that amaze me to this day.
He's really too good for this world ???
I don't know how he does it.
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on July 07, 2008, 01:06:59 AM
...Are you saying you can think of something that breaking a chair over a kid's head would be a decent punishment for?
No, I was merely wondering whether her actions may have been influenced by David being a total, disrespectful punk towards her or if she was just insane. And because the question had been asked before and ZV hadn't answered it.
I think David needs to realize that he doesn't need to see his gf every day. If they love each other that much, they'll last. If he's almost 18, then he'll be able to move back on his own and everything will be fine. And honestly, the chances of this relationship working out...they really aren't that high. If he endures this because he thinks it's a sure deal...well, what'll happen if this adopted mom gets hitched with some out-of-control drunk, and David won't leave? Things could end up horrendously badly.
And honestly, if my kid started talking to me like I was a piece of crap, I would be tempted to spank him. Given it was at the appropriate age, of course. However, I don't think physical punishment should be the only solution you have. I would talk to them about why I spanked them, why they shouldn't talk like that, stuff like that. Let them know that I don't think they're worthless, but that I don't want to be talked to like that.
And exactly how far away would David have to move? Couldn't he find someone he could move in with in the area?
Japan, I beleive.
That's if he went with his real dad though, not his adoptive one.
If he moved, he'd have to move to Hawaii.
Thats where his dad is being stationed next.
And for your information, he's engaged to his GF.
The only thing David gets in trouble for that he deserves, is coming home about a half hour late sometimes.
(He's not very timely)
...Being engaged to his GF is not a good thing...I don't think GameFreak rolls like that...
Seriously though, he shouldn't be engaged with two years ahead of him before he can get married. That's dangerous.
Could he possibly move in with you?
That'd be illegal seeing as how his mom still has legal custody of him.
Unless the CPS, could get a civil release form on his mom, he is still in the clutches of...um...that place thats down there, ya know, where Satan is and everything. The Underworld. Erebus. Hades.
And if that happened, knowing how much of a crazed fruit loop David's "mom" is, you could be certain that she'd jump on it and sue immediately.
Really, I dont even know if there is such a thing as a civil release form. It just sounded cool.
But yeah, if she lost custody, she'd go to court.
Man, if only David knew Bruce Wayne.
David's mom threatened to sue us once for housing David after she kicked him out.
Thats why my parents don't want to get involved anymore.
Tell, how much money does his mom have, being a single mom raising a kid? Probably not enough for her own lawyer.
ZV, I believe you have the strength (money) to take HER to court.
Take her to Judge Judy. A real nice, staged court room.
Dave's mom sounds like a foster parent, one of those cruel breeds of parents that treat the kids that they take care of like slaves and they legally get away with it.
You'd be surprised how many foster parents can be fairly... malicious.
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on July 07, 2008, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 07, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
The fact that he IS beaten and still with a lamp, chair, extension cords is pretty sad and no laughing matter in and of itself.
Agreed. ZV, seriously... You should call the cops. That kind of thing shouldn't go unpunished. I can't think of anything that's punishable enough to have a chair broken over your head about.
Damn, that just makes me sick...
ZV disgusts me over how stupid he is about not even TRYING to do anything.
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on July 07, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
David's mom threatened to sue us once for housing David after she kicked him out.
Thats why my parents don't want to get involved anymore.
That's stupid. So she just wanted him to live on the street?
I can't blame your parents for not wanting to get involved, but sometimes, it's the right thing, you know?
Quote from: TP Zeldatard on July 08, 2008, 02:03:50 AM
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on July 07, 2008, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on July 07, 2008, 12:01:39 AM
The fact that he IS beaten and still with a lamp, chair, extension cords is pretty sad and no laughing matter in and of itself.
Agreed. ZV, seriously... You should call the cops. That kind of thing shouldn't go unpunished. I can't think of anything that's punishable enough to have a chair broken over your head about.
Damn, that just makes me sick...
ZV disgusts me over how stupid he is about not even TRYING to do anything.
Ahem.
I believe you were there the entire time I was trying to gather people together on myspace, and your Naruto fansite. Seriously, it hurts that you say I haven't tried, because I've done so much to help his cause that its almost becoming my own problem. So stop and think before you open your mouth and tell me that I'm not doing anything for my very best friend.
Quote from: TP Zeldatard on July 08, 2008, 02:03:50 AMZV disgusts me over how stupid he is about not even TRYING to do anything.
That was almost lower than low. You are an idiot.
Agreed.
He isn't trying to do anything legally concerning his mom, seeing as how she is such a psyco, and she would probably win.
Don't you think he's tried?
His parents know how it goes, so I assume they know best not to get involved with abusive parents.
How would be arrive at the point to say he can't do anything, unless he asked his parents?
You didn't even think before you posted that.
You jumped to your on conclusions.