Where do you think it would be? I'm guessing in Europe somewhere. Either around Greece, or Scandinavia.
It depends on which one.
If it's TWW, I think somewhere in the Pacific Ocean.
If it's OoT, somewhere in Hawaii? XD
Hawaii? O_o
Let's see:
Legend of Zelda - New Mexico
Adventure of Link - Iceland
A Link to the Past - Canada!
Link's Awakening - The Caribbean Islands
Ocarina of Time - Scotland
Majora's Mask - As I've stated before, I think it's just a state of mind.
The Wind Waker - Postapocalyptic Pacific
Twilight Princess - Germany
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland - San Francisco
Tingles what-now?
Quote from: EVE on July 06, 2008, 07:15:51 PM
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland - San Francisco
I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this.
TWW would take place in the Mediterranean Sea 'cause in the Bible the Mediterranean Sea is called the Great Sea... sounds familiar ;)
Quote from: HylianHero92 on July 06, 2008, 10:44:13 PM
TWW would take place in the Mediterranean Sea 'cause in the Bible the Mediterranean Sea is called the Great Sea... sounds familiar ;)
That's actually moderately brilliant.
*moves to General Zelda; not really a discussion on Compendium-esque theory*
And major lulz on the Rupeeland location, Tacheon. :P
Why Thanfranthithco thilly boy?
All this talk about the different games gets me thinking again.
Legend of Zelda, Adventures of Link, A Link to the Past - England
Link's Awakening - Hawaii
Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess - Germany
Majora's Mask - Poland
Wind Waker - Greece
Phantom Hourglass - Australia
Oracle Series - ...Wales?
Minish Cap, Four Swords/Adventure - Finland
Quote from: COMM-E on July 06, 2008, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: EVE on July 06, 2008, 07:15:51 PM
Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland - San Francisco
I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this.
No...Massachusetts! Provincetown to be exact. jk. ;D
Why don't people realize that Hyrule IS(or rather WAS)on Earth?! It is SO obvious. 8)
Or an alternate version of Earth, or maybe just a similar planet entirely. Any of the three mentioned are just as likely.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 18, 2009, 08:48:24 PM
Why don't people realize that Hyrule IS(or rather WAS)on Earth?! It is SO obvious. 8)
Assuming this isn't a joke, I don't see how it's obvious that Hyrule is, or was, on Earth. You're going to have to explain this.
So, if Hyrule was on Earth. I always thought that Hyrule seemed somewhat related to the Celts, so I would say the British Isles.
Where do I begin?.... :D
1.) Earth flora and fauna
2.) constellations in the night sky only visible from Earth (casseopia, Orion, the big dipper.)
3.) the sun rising in the east and setting in the west
4.) humans (only found on Earth. durr.)
5.) characters in TWW referring to the planet Earth (not earth as in dirt, the PLANET EARTH.)
If these don't convince you, then....I feel sorry for you. :(
Quote from: JoeLink on January 19, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Where do I begin?.... :D
1.) Earth flora and fauna
2.) constellations in the night sky only visible from Earth (casseopia, Orion, the big dipper.)
3.) the sun rising in the east and setting in the west
4.) humans (only found on Earth. durr.)
5.) characters in TWW referring to the planet Earth (not earth as in dirt, the PLANET EARTH.)
If these don't convince you, then....I feel sorry for you. :(
Counter points:
1.) Yeah, the tree in my backyard talks to me all the time.
2.) NEVER can two different groups of stars make the same pattern.
3.) Out of two choices, this isn't solid evidence.
4.) Hylians? Gerudo?
5.) Prove it. I don't remember this.
I believe there were actually humans in... was it the "Oracle" games? Not just Hylians or Gerudo.
Quote from: Shika on January 20, 2009, 01:55:35 AM
Counter points:
2.) NEVER can two different groups of stars make the same pattern.
4.) Hylians? Gerudo?
5.) Prove it. I don't remember this.
2.) So you agree with him?
4.) That depends on your stance on what species Hylians and the Gerudo are. However, JoeLink, how do you know that humans exist only on Earth (I agree that it's unlikely that it isn't true, but seriously)? The universe is
vast; there's no telescope powerful enough that can prove your point.
5.) That's because they weren't referring to Earth as a planet at all. They were, in fact, referring more to a level of existence.
Grammar rule, JoeLink: if one refers to Earth as a planet,
Earth is capitalized. If someone is not, or if the word
the precedes it, then it isn't. In Makar's quote,
earth is clearly not capitalized; therefore, he wasn't referring to it as a planet.
And don't say that Nintendo made a typo. I'm not going to buy that.
For number 5.), where did you hear that?! It can mean the same thing both ways. You don't always see the earth capitalized in science books, but they still refer to the planet earth.
And what other planes of existance called "earth" are there. I am pretty sure there can be only one.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 19, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Where do I begin?.... :D
1.) Earth flora and fauna
2.) constellations in the night sky only visible from Earth (casseopia, Orion, the big dipper.)
3.) the sun rising in the east and setting in the west
4.) humans (only found on Earth. durr.)
5.) characters in TWW referring to the planet Earth (not earth as in dirt, the PLANET EARTH.)
If these don't convince you, then....I feel sorry for you. :(
1-5) It's a giant universe. There are bound to be coincidences. After all, I am not the only person on Earth named Nathan. I know because in sixth grade I shared a class with a Nathan H.
2) I'm sure, given a clear night in the country, I can find the Big Dipper several times; sure, they would all be different sizes and vary slightly in shape, but they would still be there.
4) There are humans in Star Wars. By your logic, everything about Star Wars
must be true.
Humans are constantly used in several fictional settings that are not Earth because humans are so familiar. It's usually easier to associate with a human or someone from a humanoid race than someone from a non-humanoid race because they (the human or humanoid) are so familiar.
Besides, can you prove that humans only exist on Earth? Are you capable of interplanetary travel? The latter question goes to Point 2 as well.
I don't think it is possible for the exact same species to evolve on one planet, then evolve on another planet. :-X
Plus, i believe Star Wars is entirely fictional. As for Hyrule, well....I have my own beliefs. ::)
Ahm... it is called east because the sun comes out of it. However, it is true that since Earth and Hyrule DO have similar day-night pattern, they might be related.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 20, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
For number 5.), where did you hear that?! It can mean the same thing both ways. You don't always see the earth capitalized in science books, but they still refer to the planet earth.
And what other planes of existance called "earth" are there. I am pretty sure there can be only one.
It sure can, but that's why you're going to have at least some people disagree with you. Besides, a lot of times I think of science books using
earth is when the article
the is before it. They could still be talking about the planet Earth, but if the word
the is before
earth, it is lowercase, regardless of its actual meaning.
I find it obvious that Makar was talking about being alive in that quote, so it's quite figurative speech he was using. Whatever the case, there was no
the, so it doesn't invalidate my counterpoint. Not that it disproves yours, of course; but my points are still not proven false, either.
Regarding the point about Hyrule's rotational axis, in physics, the frame of reference observed by someone is an important concept. If you merely use the earth as a frame of reference, of course the sun's going to rise in the east and set in the west. Because the only frame of reference we have to lean on is the earth, we can't make a definitive conclusion as to exactly how the planet rotates on its axis in relation to the sun. Regardless of how any body spins, if you use the body as its own frame of reference, the sun will
always rise and set in this way, unless you change the compass rose.
For that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.
Why can't you people see the truth? :(
Hyrule is/was on Earth. But, go ahead, you can keep believing the illusion that it is not. ???
If you want us to believe you, you need to provide definitive proof or give really strong support. So far, you have, unfortunately, failed to do so. :/
Quote from: Mikaudes the Joker on January 20, 2009, 08:35:59 PMFor that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.
What do you mean when you say that its axis is oriented toward the sun?
Quote from: JoeLink on January 24, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Why can't you people see the truth?
Hyrule is/was on Earth. But, go ahead, you can keep believing the illusion that it is not.
Why would historians fail to include Hyrule in the history books if it actually existed? If Hyrule did exist, especially around the time of the Roman Empire, then odds are we would have definitive proof of it's existence.
We see the truth. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hyrule is a fictional place, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.
If Hyrule was real, does that make the goddesses real? The Triforce? When Ganondorf got a hold of the Triforce and Link was locked in the Temple of Time for seven years, why did he just stick to conquering Hyrule? Why not the whole world?
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
We see the truth. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Hyrule is a fictional place, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.
It's all just good fun. You didn't seriously believe Hyrule could exist, right JoeLink?
Right?
Quote from: MagmarFire on January 24, 2009, 04:55:32 PM
If you want us to believe you, you need to provide definitive proof or give really strong support. So far, you have, unfortunately, failed to do so. :/
Quote from: Mikaudes the Joker on January 20, 2009, 08:35:59 PMFor that I have to theories, either Hyrule's day-night cycle match Earth's or Hyrule's axis is oriented towards the sun but has the insanely fast year cycle.
What do you mean when you say that its axis is oriented toward the sun?
Argh! It's hard to explain without a drawing.
Imagine the rotating axis of the Earth, ours is 67 degrees (I think) away from the Equator, that area of the planet that is closes to the Sun. Now imagine the axis aligned with the equator, and the planet in question making a lap around the sun every 24 hours. But now that I think of it, it would make the Sun to appear to be spiraling in the sky as it approaced the Horizon. How cool would that be?
I haz several ways to prove that Hyrule is NOT on Earth (though, these could be proved wrong or w/e too) and Magz im sorry if i use "earth" wrong XDX
1. If Hyrule was on earth, they would have mentioned something about it in History books.
2. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't the races still be around? (Zora's, Gorons, Gerudos, etc)
3. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't things pop out of the ground at night?
4. If Hyrule was on earth, then wouldn't some people have semi-pointy ears and know a little bit about their Hylian (as in their language lol that probably sounded stupid)?
5. If Hyrule was on earth, wouldn't fairies and things still be around?
6. If Hyrule was on earth, why don't we see Link around town/in the park/any time in our lives?
7. If Hyrule was on earth, would there be a lot of Links/Zeldas/Ganons/Zoras/Gorons/etc be running around? Or would it just keep following the storyline or w/e?
8. and If Hyrule WAS ON EARTH, how do you explain the Master Sword/Triforce? Wouldn't people be going after them all the time?
lol i know a lot of this is stuff that can be all like "well they could be extinct" and shizit like that but then weher are the ruins? XD
I guess this is one of those cases where you don't have proof that such thing doesn't exist, after all, there are myths about living golems and mermaids. We do not, of course, have a solid evidence that proves that TLoZ is more than a mere piece of the 8th art (yes, I consider making videogames has become art)
And TP, this must feel horrible coming from a mexican, but your grammar makes my brown eyes hurt, it's "If ____ were ____, it would ____" , not "If____ was_____......"
Don't worry People have recognized Shigeru Miyamoto as one of the worlds 8 new Einstiens.
Imagine the power he holds over Children...
Also as much as I wish hyrule was a Real place I must admit it cannot be real.
Mikaudes: Eh, I only say whaat sounds right xD
And I must agree with Chuck.
Okay, here's some reasons why I believe Hyrule could've been a real place:
1). In TWW (which is obviously the last game in the timeline, not counting PH), most of the people(if not all of them, except the spirit of the king, and the guardian spirits) had forgotten about Hyrule, the Triforce, and Ganon. So that forgetfulness could've carried on to this day. :-\
2). The creator of the zelda games mentioned he was inspired to make these games because he explored caves near his hometown during his childhood. WELL, who's to say he didn't FIND something in one of those caves, perhaps an ancient BOOK of some sort that when deciphered, told him the stories. Maybe he kept the book a secret, but told the stories as video games....HMMMMM?! ::)
3.) Most of the races in Hyrule obviously went extinct after the Great Flood (which if I may point out WAS recorded in a certain religion), which is why we don't see them today. :-X
4.) AND FINALLY, there is no Hero Chosen By the Gods around today because the earth hasn't needed one. Ganon is safely sealed underneath the ocean by the master sword for all enternity(or so I hope..... :o).
Yeah, you can call me crazy, and you know what....I'M PROUD OF IT!!! :P
After all, it takes courage to stick with your beliefs, no matter how far-fetched others may think it is. You people remember that. :D
3) Several religions and mythologies tell stories about a great flood that covered the whole world. Here's the thing though: back in ancient times, the known world was smaller than the known world today. These floods that supposedly covered the world could very well have been smaller than the whole world. Furthermore, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that the whole world was flooded while humans existed.
Besides, even if a flood is catastrophic, it wouldn't completely destroy evidence of human civilization; if Hyrule ever did exist on Earth, there would be evidence of it. And there simply is no evidence that Hyrule existed.
I know, but I believe that this Great Flood didn't cover the whole world. It only flooded Hyrule( and possibly Holodrum and Labyrnna), by raising the sea level in the Mediterannean(where I believe Hyrule was located), and after hundreds of years of underwater corrosion, it would severely alter and destroy many of Hyrule's landmarks(plus any remaining areas would become covered with coral, algae, and other sea-life).
Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
Okay, here's some reasons why I believe Hyrule could've been a real place:
1). In TWW (which is obviously the last game in the timeline, not counting PH), most of the people(if not all of them, except the spirit of the king, and the guardian spirits) had forgotten about Hyrule, the Triforce, and Ganon. So that forgetfulness could've carried on to this day. :-\
2). The creator of the zelda games mentioned he was inspired to make these games because he explored caves near his hometown during his childhood. WELL, who's to say he didn't FIND something in one of those caves, perhaps an ancient BOOK of some sort that when deciphered, told him the stories. Maybe he kept the book a secret, but told the stories as video games....HMMMMM?! ::)
3.) Most of the races in Hyrule obviously went extinct after the Great Flood (which if I may point out WAS recorded in a certain religion), which is why we don't see them today. :-X
4.) AND FINALLY, there is no Hero Chosen By the Gods around today because the earth hasn't needed one. Ganon is safely sealed underneath the ocean by the master sword for all enternity(or so I hope..... :o).
1.) This isn't even close to valid evidence of anything. I highly doubt we'd forget every single shred of that culture.
2.) Because no child would keep something like that a secret.
3.) I fail to see how Humans could survive when all the other races are unable to. There are no fossils of these other species, either.
4.) Once again, a completely invalid point that offers NO evidence whatsoever.
QuoteYeah, you can call me crazy, and you know what....I'M PROUD OF IT!!! :P
After all, it takes courage to stick with your beliefs, no matter how far-fetched others may think it is. You people remember that. :D
Hey, guess what. Humans can give birth to zebras if they want, they just need to think of zebras every night while they're pregnant. Nothing you tell me will convince me otherwise. This makes me courageous.
Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?
Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.
That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?
Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?
Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.
That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?
If Link didn't keep the secret it could have been the end of the world. If this dude had revealed this book he would be rich and famous and a hero.
So rare that entire civilations are unformed? And I suppose they just toss all their dead bodies into the ocean?
I'm neutral on this, so technically I'm on my own side. But here's my theory to back up Joe:
The flood could have covered all of Hyrule and it's surroundings, drowning everything (all the races, knowledge, any books containing any evidence, etc.) And if that's true, all this stuff could be washed away to the middle of the ocean, they could also be dissolved (like the books, scrolls, anything) or they could be covered in algae and the likes. They could also be in the dark depths of the ocean. I mean, think of how much ocean there is.
Now think of how deep it is.
That's where everything could be.
The deepest, darkest, most secretive depths of the ocean.
:D
Feel free to disprove me.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 25, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
Okay....now you're just talking SUPER crazy, BEYOND crazy even. ;) And whos to say a child can't keep a secret like that?
Link kept the secret of the Triforce when Zelda asked him to in OoT. It could be a reflection of the secret that the creator kept.
That is just me PURELY theorizing though. But it could be possible( I think). Also, do you know how RARE it is for a good fossilized specimen to form, and do you also know how HARD(if not impossible) it is to find fossils at THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN?!?!?!?!?
Granted, water is an awesome, destructive force, but let's look at this one thing I said earlier:
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
If Hyrule did exist, especially around the time of the Roman Empire, then odds are we would have definitive proof of it's existence.
If Hyrule existed around the same time of the Roman Empire as you claim, then the Romans would have noted its existence, and we would have proof of Hyrule's existence. But we don't.
And TP Zelda, you are not neutral; you explicitly state that your theory backs up Joe.
And if Hyrule was in the Mediterranean Sea, and flooded because the water level of the sea rose, think of what else would have been affected by that flood. Even a couple hundred feet of water would have a drastic effect on the surrounding continents. Cities along the coast would be covered in water, and if that ever happened there would be a ton of evidence.
But I believe that before the Great Flood, the Mediterannean Sea had a lower sea level than today.
Oh, and I don't think Hyrule had much contact with the other continents.
And if the creator of the zelda games had told this secret, the knowledge of the Triforce could've started another war( World War III anyone?), just as it did in Hyrule.
:D
*headdesk*
Oh, yeah, sure, Hyrule would have contact with Labrynna and Holodrum, but no one else. If a nation is going to adopt a policy of isolation, it's not going to make exceptions. And even supposing it had no contact with other nations, that's not to mean that other nations wouldn't notice it. After all, the ancient Romans conquered all of the lands surrounding the Mediterranean; it would be kind of hard to miss a medieval-style castle (ZOMG! ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY!!!!) and surrounding areas of civilization.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 26, 2009, 05:28:19 PM
But I believe that before the Great Flood, the Mediterannean Sea had a lower sea level than today.
That's what I'm saying. Do you honestly think that there wouldn't have been
any people living along the coast of Europe or Africa when the sea level was lower? Let's say Hawaii is Hyrule. Global warming attacks and the sea level rises, covering up all of Hawaii except for the highest points. It's not just going to affect Hawaii, it will effect the whole rest of the world.
Well, maybe Hyrule was noticed by other civilizations. But many races were forgotten over the years, so it is not implausible that Hyrule was forgotten as well(it does state this in TWW).
You've got to be....
Dude, you're talking about a whole civilization that you claim existed around the time of the Roman Empire near the Roman Empire. There aren't many lost civilizations from that region in that era.
What about the legend of the lost city of Atlantis??? It is said that it was around that area, and around that time.
By the way, how do you change the little subtitle thats underneath of your forum name? Mine says Hireling and I really want to change it.
MAGS EDIT: It changes after you reach a specific number of posts. To get the next level, you need fifty posts (outside the Chatboard and Forum Games). Just don't spam up the boards to get to that fifty, though.
I figured I'd say it in this post so I wouldn't have to be too off-topic in a new one entirely. I hope you understand.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 26, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
What about the legend of the lost city of Atlantis??? It is said that it was around that area, and around that time.
IT IS A LEGEND. IT IS NOT REAL. And I don't recall anyone 'forgetting' about races over time. If we had forgotten them, how do we know we forgot them? Aiyah.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 26, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
What about the legend of the lost city of Atlantis??? It is said that it was around that area, and around that time.
By the way, how do you change the little subtitle thats underneath of your forum name? Mine says Hireling and I really want to change it.
One, Atlantis has also been theorized to have been located in the Atlantic Ocean, the Caribbean Sea, the Bermuda Triangle, and areas in the Pacific and Indian Ocean. Bringing up Atlantis does nothing to help you.
Two, please don't change the topic; this board doesn't follow Chatboard rules.
Who's to say a legend could not have been real? There's the legend of the kracken(giant squid) which people thought wasn't real, then low-and-behold a REAL giant squid was found!
So many of the legends in this world could have factual basis.
Plus, (I'm not trying to question religon, I'm giving this as an example) the christian beliefs seem a little far-fetched and many people around the world believe it. So what's wrong with someone believing in Hyrule and it's legends(once again, I'm NOT trying to question or impose on anyone's beliefs).
The kraken is a legendary sea monster, whereas giant squids are real animals that probably inspired the myth of the kraken. Christianity also has historical evidence for some of the events in the Bible. Hyrule, however, is pure fiction with no evidence to prove that it ever existed on Earth.
And you're going to question how far-fetched Christianity and God sounds, but you're not going to question at all how far-fetched the pagan-ish beliefs of Hyrule are? There's a serious error in that line of logic.
Myths most are based off of legends, which are mostly based off of facts. Which is where the Kraken came in, just like HNS said. And Shika, I do believe that the remains of Atlantis HAVE been found, just not much of it remains, though. All that is left are a bunch of ruins at least a mile under the waves.
Quote from: JoeLink on January 28, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
Who's to say a legend could not have been real? There's the legend of the kracken(giant squid) which people thought wasn't real, then low-and-behold a REAL giant squid was found!
So many of the legends in this world could have factual basis.
Plus, (I'm not trying to question religon, I'm giving this as an example) the christian beliefs seem a little far-fetched and many people around the world believe it. So what's wrong with someone believing in Hyrule and it's legends(once again, I'm NOT trying to question or impose on anyone's beliefs).
Dude, its a video game. Quit trying to be some Indiana Jones knock off and trying to find the Triforce.
Dude, don't tell me what to do. :P
Let's stop fighting like little children about what's real and what's not.
I think certain regions of each game sort of remind me of different time periods of different countries. Like in OoT, the market looks like about 16th or 17th century France or Germany to me, but Gerudo Valley is clearly supposed to look Middle Eastern.
As for WW, the art they show in the beginning prologue scene looks a bit like Mayan art in a way. That's what I like about Zelda is that each game has a little bit of every culture.