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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Uximadesk on January 23, 2009, 08:39:09 PM

Title: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Uximadesk on January 23, 2009, 08:39:09 PM
Reviewing the other topic about PKMN (PoKeMoN, not PiKMiN), I came across many pkmn whose pokedex entries I remebered. Many of them consisted basically of  "[main feature] remains a mystery"; an example would be Digglet, no one has ever seen his lower body, or magnemite, scientists do not know how he manages to float. This of course carried on to other generations, like Cyndaquil's eyes' having never been seen.

This, of course, led to the conclusion that PKMN scientists really know heck about pokemon, I mean, c'mon! It's really not that hard to do some research; the guys know how to transmit matter as energy for crying out loud and they don't know how cubone looks without his mask!!
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
Maybe because doing these things might drastically alter the pokemons Evo-adreniline causing them to evolve immediately?
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 23, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Could also be that they like respecting their privacy, but Chuck's explanation is better.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Uximadesk on January 23, 2009, 08:54:25 PM
It could be, but I don't see a reason for them not to do a necropsy.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: DW on January 23, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
Nintendo refuses to make any significant changes when they move to the next generation, aside from simply adding more pokemon/moves/items.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:05:38 PM
Pokemon don't die. They faint. And if you read the books in the library at The sea place in D/P you find that a dead pokemon becomes another pokemon almost immediately.
Here is a link to the EVO-Adrenaline theory
Doctor oak is a genius.

Oh noes its not on Pokecharms anymore!
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 23, 2009, 09:10:04 PM
Um, no, they don't die in battle.

Usually.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:10:53 PM
I think they can die of old age.
In the manga they die. but only if purposely killed not fainted.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Uximadesk on January 23, 2009, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: Chuckinator on January 23, 2009, 09:05:38 PM
Pokemon don't die. They faint. And if you read the books in the library at The sea place in D/P you find that a dead pokemon becomes another pokemon almost immediately.
Please explain further
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:13:53 PM
What part?
on the top floor of the library there is a book that says.

If you catch a magicarp eat all of it, pick the bones clean, and release the skeleton into the water and It will return, each and every scale.

Or something like that.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Uximadesk on January 23, 2009, 09:28:58 PM
Now that is some ****ed up ****!
Tell me more! (for I don't think I'll ever get to play D/P)
Does any PKMN turn into a ghost?
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
No but there is a pokemon that is a pain to get called spiritomb... Gotta meet 100 people underground...
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: DW on January 23, 2009, 09:30:37 PM
...

Gastly, anyone?
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
I don't think he means that.

It has lots of lore about pokemon explained in D/P

Check out Serebii.net They have a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 23, 2009, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: Chuckinator on January 23, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
No but there is a pokemon that is a pain to get called spiritomb... Gotta meet 100 people underground...
One, it's 32 people you have to meet in the Underground.  Or you can talk to the same person 32 times.  Failing that, just get a friend who already has a Spiritomb and have him/her breed it.

Two, if you have an open spot on your roster and a spare Pokeball, you'll get Shedinja when Nincada evolves into Ninjask.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Yeah.

Or you could cheat but thats no fun.

*eyes HnS* Cheater...
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 23, 2009, 09:42:34 PM
If pokemon don't die, then why is there a cemetery for departed pokemon in Lavender town? And how come the lady mourns over her Growlithe which she asks, "Why did you die?"
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 09:43:22 PM
I said they die of old age.
And in the Manga they die if you really want to kill them not just battle them.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Zelda Veteran on January 23, 2009, 10:24:36 PM
Doesn't a Charmander die if it's flame goes out?
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 23, 2009, 10:31:22 PM
So I heard, but I think that's rather stupid.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 23, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
Yeah I guess that only natural means can kill a pokemon not battling.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 24, 2009, 07:55:24 AM
I wouldn't necessarily call "the Rockets killing Pokemon" as natural causes. That is one of the things they are known to do, after all.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 24, 2009, 07:58:21 AM
Since when?

I want to know what your talking about.

I know the rockets killed them in Manga but i don't know about the games.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 24, 2009, 10:53:21 AM
It was certainly said so in the games.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 24, 2009, 10:57:51 AM
I always read that they were capturing pokemon and using their powers and stuff. I never saw anything about killing them.

Name an instance just one.

I also finished my picture of you.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 24, 2009, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from Red/Blue/Yellow:

QuoteGHOSTs appeared in POKEMON TOWER. I think they're the spirits of POKEMON that the ROCKETs killed.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 24, 2009, 11:05:32 AM
You win. Here is a cookie.

I guess your right I haven't played those in forever. Everything now is all politically correct...
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 04:57:24 PM
I'm pretty sure it's also stated in FR/LG that the Rockets killed the Marowak in the tower in Lavender (gah, I can't remember the name right now).
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 24, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
You're being sarcastic right? :'(

I think in FR/LG it wasn't directly stated like in R/B/Y
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 24, 2009, 05:07:21 PM
No, I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm pretty sure someone in Lavender Town tells you that Team Rocket killed the Marowak in the nearby tower.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 24, 2009, 05:12:53 PM
I thought you meant you couldn't remember lavender was a town.

I feel stupid :(

Yeah It was mentioned by the old guy Mr fuji it think.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Fishalicious on January 25, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
Man, I love pokemon sometimes.

Like, it's a kid's game and all that, and the new games are stupid, but... the manga/older games are actually a lot darker than they let on. I remember reading one of the rockets accidentally slicing it's Arbok into two pieces, and it died.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on January 25, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
Actually *Spoiler*
Koga cut Agatha of the Elite fours Arbok in half.

I like all the pokemon games.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Pale Dim on January 25, 2009, 12:14:16 PM
Um...yikes! Don't rightly know what to say to that... :-[ Except...that is dark!
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: DW on January 25, 2009, 02:36:17 PM
Most stuff they bring over from Japan is a lot darker before they Americanize it...
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 25, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
Kirby 64 is a good example of that. Kinda makes you wonder what happened. :/
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 25, 2009, 02:39:53 PM
Quote from: Shika on January 25, 2009, 02:36:17 PM
Most stuff they bring over from Japan is a lot darker before they Americanize it...
Americans can't stand violence, you see?
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: darkphantomime on January 25, 2009, 02:41:31 PM
Much darker:

Genocyber
Cyber City Oedo 808
Ghost in the Shell
Darker than Black
Texhnolyze
Serial Experiments Lain

Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Fishalicious on January 25, 2009, 02:42:17 PM
yes, but those aren't childrens games with dark undertones, JQ
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Pale Dim on January 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
That really makes me wonder about Mario... ::)
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: darkphantomime on January 25, 2009, 03:06:25 PM
I thought we were talking about the anime here.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Pale Dim on January 25, 2009, 03:10:20 PM
So did I. I was thinking out loud. Sorry!
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Hi no Seijin on January 25, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Lt. Havoc on January 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
That really makes me wonder about Mario... ::)
Then Google Sore Thumbs and read the first few comics.  There you will learn the shocking truth about Mario.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: darkphantomime on January 25, 2009, 03:21:00 PM
I need to get to watching Genocyber. It sounds interesting.

Particularly interesting quote from wiki

QuoteThe Anime is quite violent, like most of the other 1990's cyberpunk anime. It features many of the victims in the OVA with dismembered body parts and excessive killings that include gore and internal dismemberment.

:D

Oh yeah, I forgot Elfen Lied in the list of dark/graphic anime. Me love <3
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Pale Dim on January 25, 2009, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on January 25, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: Lt. Havoc on January 25, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
That really makes me wonder about Mario... ::)
Then Google Sore Thumbs and read the first few comics.  There you will learn the shocking truth about Mario.

I'm on it.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Twilight Wolf on January 25, 2009, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: MagmarFire on January 25, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
Kirby 64 is a good example of that. Kinda makes you wonder what happened. :/

Explain, please.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: MagmarFire on January 26, 2009, 02:29:36 PM
Official artwork of Zero Two:

(http://kirby.classicgaming.gamespy.com/kirbypedia/images/e/ea/Zerotwo.jpg)

Doubt it's official, but it still gets the point across:

(http://bf.img.v4.skyrock.net/bf1/artistpaint/pics/1185824606_small.jpg)

Yes, he is crying blood, and that is blood on his forewings (or so I have read on the latter).

I have heard that in the original Japanese version of Kirby 64, one of 02's attacks involves shooting blood at you. I believe it was edited in the Americanized version so that it was just sparkles of energy or something. Or it could've been changed to green like in Ocarina of Time when Ganondorf coughed up blood, because green cloud attacks are one of the attacks he does when you attack his cactus-like tail.
Title: Re: Pokemons Scientists Stink
Post by: Pale Dim on January 26, 2009, 04:08:10 PM
Wow. What else is American media not showing us?
Also...Kirby always seemed like the kind of game that looked like part of the gay pride parade...I never took it quite seriously.