I recently came up with this interesting theory concerning the gods and the Earth(for all of you "Hyrule is not on Earth" people, DON"T ARGUE WITH ME, I believe Hyrule was on Earth and so does my forum, deal with it). Here it goes.
A long time ago, there was nothing but a single mass of energy. Then that energy exploded in a massive burst, and created two planes of existance: The heavenly realm of light, and a spaceous realm of darkness. The beings within heaven were composed entirely of energy, and would one day be known as deities.
One such being, who would become known as the god of light and order, descended into the dark realm, and brought light in the form of the stars. Unbeknownst to this god however, was that he disturbed another energy being, who would become known as Majora, the god of darkness and chaos, who had been born with the darkness itself. It kept itself hidden, until it felt the time was right.
Once light had filled the realm, three godesses, Din, Nayru, and Farore descended, and from the dust that had been scattered throughout the realm, formed celestial bodies(planets). They chose one, and blessed it with their light. They then created the triforce to keep the world in balance.
It was then that Majora, the god of darkness made his move. When each of the godesses put their piece of the triforce together, Majora formed his own piece and placed it in the middle. This was the Dark Force, and when it touched the world with the triforce, it ripped two additional dimensions open within the world. There were now three known dimensions upon that planet. A world of light(where Hyrule would someday be), a world of shadow(the twilight realm), and a world inbetween where the three triforce pieces now rested(the sacred realm). The Dark Force now rested in the shadow world.
This dark act called the god of light to action, and he waged battle with Majora, ultimately sealing him away within the very shadow world he helped created. Thus the world, the Earth, was protected.....for now.
Well, what do you think?
You do understand that because of your first paragraph you'll get no responses not to be mean.
I think Hyrule is a microchosm of earth. Not the real thing.
Oh C'mon! >:(
I am pretty sure that there are other fans who believe Hyrule was on Earth! The PLANET Earth, not earth as in dirt, or Earth as in a state of mind, but the PLANET Earth!
There are probably others, but that doesn't prove that it actually existed on this planet.
Aside from that, though, I say it was rather interesting. It did provide some Zelda-feasible explanation for things that were thrown in at random.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 04, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
Oh C'mon! >:(
I am pretty sure that there are other fans who believe Hyrule was on Earth! The PLANET Earth, not earth as in dirt, or Earth as in a state of mind, but the PLANET Earth!
Y'know, Charles Manson believed everyone was going to die except him and a few of his followers.
Point is, there is NO possible evidence to prove your theories, including this one, and there is ample evidence against them. Debating against you is pointless.
What did I say?
It's a representation of Earth.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 04, 2009, 07:00:21 PM
One such being, who would become known as the god of light and order, descended into the dark realm, and brought light in the form of the stars. Unbeknownst to this god however, was that he disturbed another energy being, who would become known as Majora, the god of darkness and chaos, who had been born with the darkness itself.
You know, I have always considered the atomic crashes happening within a star to be more chaotic than the dark corners of the universe, where everything is at peace. But whatever, that is the concept humans have given to darkness due to their natural fear of it.
Gamewise, this gives a new dimension to Majora, which could as well expand the role of the fierce deity.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 04, 2009, 07:00:21 PM
It was then that Majora, the god of darkness made his move. When each of the godesses put their piece of the triforce together, Majora formed his own piece and placed it in the middle. This was the Dark Force, and when it touched the world with the triforce, it ripped two additional dimensions open within the world. There were now three known dimensions upon that planet. A world of light(where Hyrule would someday be), a world of shadow(the twilight realm), and a world inbetween where the three triforce pieces now rested(the sacred realm). The Dark Force now rested in the shadow world.
Well, what do you think?
I think that because you're making up the Dark Force, pretty much any debate against this theory will win. Really, unless Nintendo comes out with a game that uses a "Dark Force," you might as well have posted this in the Fan Works board.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 04, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
I am pretty sure that there are other fans who believe Hyrule was on Earth! The PLANET Earth, not earth as in dirt, or Earth as in a state of mind, but the PLANET Earth!
No offense meant, but they are deluded. There is no evidence that Hyrule existed on Earth, especially during the time you suggest in conjunction with the region of the world you believe it to had been in.
There is PLENTY of evidence to support Hyrule having been on Earth, you people are just refusing to believe it because all you see is a "seemingly-fictional" story within a game. ::) You don't look BEYOND that, like I do.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 08, 2009, 01:47:11 AM
you people
What do you mean, "you people?"
I'll be honest, I'm one of the folks who doesn't believe Hyrule existed on Earth. I think the story of Zelda is just that: a well-written story. Looking beyond that, there are too many key differences between Hyrule and Earth, mainly the presence of magic, which has never been shown to exist on Earth at any time during all of history. The physical world of Hyrule differs from that of Earth, as well, in living creatures, plants, and even things like basic physics. Unless Earth underwent a majorly drastic supernatural transformation to rid itself of any and all traces of magic, the bizarre creatures and plants, and to change its physical properties, as well, I don't think it could have existed on Earth. Sure, it's fun to imagine it being on Earth at one point, but I don't think it's true. Call me a skeptic if you must, but that's my opinion.
Now, you say there is plenty of evidence to suggest Hyrule existed on Earth. Mind elaborating on that a bit?
Quote from: JoeLink on March 08, 2009, 01:47:11 AM
There is PLENTY of evidence to support Hyrule having been on Earth, you people are just refusing to believe it because all you see is a "seemingly-fictional" story within a game. ::)
If there's as "plenty" evidence as you say, you'd have no problem telling us, would you? Do share it.
According to him, Roman gladiators escaped Rome and formed Hyrule. If this was true, and all of the events portrayed in the games actually happened, this would be far too large for the Roman Empire or any other society to ignore, and there is no record of any major disaster, natural or man-made, that could destroy Hyrule and only Hyrule. And it's not even just the Roman Empire; we know at least several hundred years have passed within the Zelda series, and we do not have several hundred years worth of evidence that Hyrule has ever existed on Earth. Throw in the fact that the Zelda series hasn't ended yet, the history of Hyrule, if it was established during the time of the Roman Empire, would most likely extend into the present day, and we definitely are not hearing about giant, tyrannical pigs trying to take over the world.
While by some coincidence Hyrule could exist on another planet, Hyrule definitely could not have existed on this planet.
And while there is "evidence" in the GAMES, there is no strong evidence on Earth. However, I would like to remind you that all of this posts have been off topic, so I suggest we drop this.
Yeah, okay.
And I DID give evidence in a previous forum. So look there if you can find it.
And there are too recordings of magic in history. Ever hear of the middle ages? 8)
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*headdesk*
Wow? Really? You're going to bring up the Middle Ages, a time where people didn't understand the world and developed supernatural explanations for events we now understand through science, as your definitive piece of evidence for magic?
Well there are still lots of unexplained things in this world. And who knows, perhaps magic and science are sort of related, like how many fans believe Nayru created it like that.
I mean, I tend to view magic as a kind of energy, an aura if you will, that exisits in all living things. It is just stronger in some life forms than others. :)
I don't suppose this 'magic' is a chemical imbalance? Because that's what I'm sensing.
The point is THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF MAGIC.
I don't care who you are, you're not going to find a magical artifact anywhere. Nobody's emitted a huge shield of fire around them to char their enemies, nobody has teleported, nobody has...gah, what's the point.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 10, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Well there are still lots of unexplained things in this world.
That is no proof that magic exists. The fact that we don't know how to explain them is just that: we don't know how to explain these events. Several things that was once considered to be magic has been proven to be otherwise, and with time the unexplainable will be understood through science.
Quote from: Shika on March 10, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
The point is THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF MAGIC.
I would modify this to say that there is no evidence of magic here on Earth. After all, we don't even have proof that life similar to that on Earth exists anywhere else in the universe, or even if there is more than one universe.
You are confusing fiction for fact. The simple truth is that our world does not work on or with magic, and all evidence points to the fact that Hyrule never existed on Earth.
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
JoeLink... you can't end an argument by saying "No it doesn't!" and then locking your thread. That's rather childish, in my humble opinion.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 10, 2009, 07:14:50 PM
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Oh, wow, you can really change a lot of minds with that statement! Why, I'm going to start worshiping the goddesses every day now because they
must exist!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you
are confusing fact with fiction, and at your age (or the age your profile claims that you are) you shouldn't be. I left this one forum I used to go to because most of the members genuinely believe that Ganon is the root of all of the world's problems.
And TW is right; locking the topic because you aren't convincing anyone is childish, and it isn't going to help convince anyone of anything.
I am still LOCKING it unless you stop arguing about whether Hyrule was on Earth or not and get back to rating my theory.
Besides, is there anything WRONG with believing that Hyrule could've been real. I mean, it doesn't affect you, and a person should be free to believe in what he/she wants without being made fun of.
There is still plenty of evidence in my book, thats for sure.
TO THE TWILIGHT REALM WITH ALL YOU NON-BELIEVERS!!! and you call yourselfs Zelda fans. >:(
:-[oops! did I write that instead of thinking it. hee hee hee. :(
You can believe what you want, but you can't go around trying to back it up with unsolid evidence.
One, by saying "Don't say Hyrule didn't exist," you pretty much guaranteed that someone would say that.
Two, theories should have evidence from the game to back it up. As there is no "Dark Force" in the Zelda series, this is mere speculation.
Three, unless I'm mistaken, delusions are unhealthy. If you can't separate fact from fiction, then there will be problems down the road for you.
Four, your evidence is faulty, far fetched, and non-existent.
Five, being a fan doesn't necessarily mean you know everything or believe that it is real. A fan is someone who likes the game (or what have you).
For the theory, I like MM Manga's Idea, it was neat.
Many great people had their ideas called "delusional", and they ended up famous. So I am just going to ignore what you said. :P
Quote from: Chuckinator on March 11, 2009, 05:59:25 AM
For the theory, I like MM Manga's Idea, it was neat.
Yeah, but the author said it was written before MM was out and wasn't what actually happened.
Still a neat idea though.
Quote from: JoeLink on March 11, 2009, 12:12:24 PM
Many great people had their ideas called "delusional", and they ended up famous. So I am just going to ignore what you said. :P
Oh, you mean like Johannes Kepler? Or Galileo Galilei? Didn't it turn out that they were, you know,
right? You do know that their ideas were actually based on
solid evidence, correct?
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on March 11, 2009, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: JoeLink on March 11, 2009, 12:12:24 PM
Many great people had their ideas called "delusional", and they ended up famous. So I am just going to ignore what you said. :P
Oh, you mean like Johannes Kepler? Or Galileo Galilei? Didn't it turn out that they were, you know, right? You do know that their ideas were actually based on solid evidence, correct?
I don't know what you mean HNS, of course there is solid evidence!
The fact that Miyamoto desgined WindWaker to have the same constelations as Earth clearly means that he found some obscure book in Japan that told the story of an ancient civilization from Rome that somehow managed to go unsuspected by all the contemporary cultures, brought the world to the brink of destruction quite a lot of times, had roughly 1500 years of secret history, then vanished (along with all the monsters, architecture, heck! even their physical laws) and left all but a lonely book that wound up on a different ocean and that was able to be translated by a Japanese kid in the 50's.
Geez HNS, don't you have you know, like common sense?
Man, you guys are cold. And big jerks too. >:(
Way to stay on topic, JoeLink. Unfortunately, I think that would be considered spamming, and it is warnable. Sorry, man. :/