It's coming again, guys. According to my JavaScript program, there are only 129 hours, 41 minutes, and 33 seconds left until E3. I'm sure we all remember how disappointing Nintendo's showcase was last year, but maybe they can redeem themselves yet.
Let's use this thread to discuss the goings-on from the second to the fourth of June, as well as what you hope to expect from it.
As for me, obviously, the new Zelda Wii game. It may be a little of an optimistic wish, but the possibility's still there. And hopefully, Square Enix releases another trailer for the newest Kingdom Hearts games. An English dub for them is always good, right?
I bet Shigeru is going to announce a lame (See wii fit lame/Wii play lame) game and it'll be the highlight of 90% of everyone there.
And he won't even think about bringing up our beloved Zelda.
*coughWiiFitPlus (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/27/nintendo-trademarks-wii-fit-plus-and-art-academy/)coughcough*
Maybe if we get lucky we'll get a 3D Battletoads.
From Sony, I'm hoping they'll announce PS2 emulation for the newest PS3 models that lack PS2 compatibility. I'm also hoping they'll announce features like cross-game voice chat and custom soundtracks for all games. You know, features we should have gotten forever ago.
I also want to hear some news about "Half-Life 2: Episode Three" and "Portal 2."
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on May 27, 2009, 01:42:25 PM
I'm also hoping they'll announce features like cross-game voice chat and custom soundtracks for all games.
I also want to hear some news about "Half-Life 2: Episode Three" and "Portal 2."
Like the 360 for the first one.
And the 360 is getting portal two. Not the PS3. At least... Not for a while.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: Twilight Wolf on May 27, 2009, 01:42:25 PM
I'm also hoping they'll announce features like cross-game voice chat and custom soundtracks for all games.
I also want to hear some news about "Half-Life 2: Episode Three" and "Portal 2."
Like the 360 for the first one.
Exactly my point. Sony doesn't seem to realize that if they want to beat the 360, they at
least need to offer comparable features for the PS3, not some lousy text chat that censors the most innocent of words.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 01:45:43 PMAnd the 360 is getting portal two. Not the PS3. At least... Not for a while.
Well, though I've pretty much given up hope for updates for "The Orange Box" and a version of "Left 4 Dead," Valve has officially stated that they'd like to support the PS3 more as their resources allow, so I'm remaining hopeful.
I'm looking forward to...
Something like Shenmui and Zelda mixed.
I'm not sure if it'll even be there but so long as something like that happens in my life I'm happy.
But Assassins Creed two looks awesome.
Oooo I can't wait!
I think I have a DVD of... E3... 200...3? Idk whichevever one TP was on :P
Zelda game...me want...
Maybe a new "Tales of" Game.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
Maybe a new "Tales of" Game.
There just happens to be a new one coming out for the wii soon. Can't wait.
Quote from: TP Zelda on May 27, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
Oooo I can't wait!
I think I have a DVD of... E3... 200...3? Idk whichevever one TP was on :P
Zelda game...me want...
You mean of when TP was first revealed? That would be 2004. An epic time...
Quote from: MagmarFire on May 27, 2009, 03:13:37 PM
Quote from: TP Zelda on May 27, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
Oooo I can't wait!
I think I have a DVD of... E3... 200...3? Idk whichevever one TP was on :P
Zelda game...me want...
You mean of when TP was first revealed? That would be 2004. An epic time...
Ya! I got like a DVD of that E3 so I could see that TP stuff...
How awesome it was. <3
Aww man I hate nostalgia (i think that's the right word...XD)
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on May 27, 2009, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
Maybe a new "Tales of" Game.
There just happens to be a new one coming out for the wii soon. Can't wait.
I loved Legendia, I hope it's equally as good.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on May 27, 2009, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
Maybe a new "Tales of" Game.
There just happens to be a new one coming out for the wii soon. Can't wait.
I loved Legendia, I hope it's equally as good.
I heard Legendia sucked.
Of the Tales of games, I've played Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Symphonia, only 25 or so hours into the latter, completed the former. Also have Tales of the Abyss, but haven't played it yet.
Tales of Phantasia is really pretty.
They all have really good art.
And legendia was good.
But I'm also looking forward to.. (I can't believe i'm saying this...) Lego Rock band.
It has Europe so I must buy it.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on May 27, 2009, 03:25:25 PM
They all have really good art.
And legendia was good.
But I'm also looking forward to.. (I can't believe i'm saying this...) Lego Rock band.
It has Europe so I must buy it.
Gimme ten good reasons why I should buy it... and I just might.
Should I just Name 10 Europe songs?
I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank Future trailer, and hopefully some gameplay footage.
Assassin's Creed 2 is looking interesting as well.
As for Nintendo, I'm hoping for a reason to be interested in Spirit Tracks and a reason to believe in Nintendo at all anymore.
Quote from: Gamefreak on May 27, 2009, 06:08:03 PM
I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank Future trailer, and hopefully some gameplay footage.
That would be awesomesauce. But it would be even more so if I had a PS3 of my own to play it on...
Tools of Destruction was magnificent, though, so the continuation will hopefully rule.
Quote from: MagmarFire on May 27, 2009, 06:44:22 PM
Quote from: Gamefreak on May 27, 2009, 06:08:03 PM
I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank Future trailer, and hopefully some gameplay footage.
That would be awesomesauce. But it would be even more so if I had a PS3 of my own to play it on... Tools of Destruction was magnificent, though, so the continuation will hopefully rule.
Remember the time where you could own all three consoles and not be filthy rich?
Not really. It was hard enough for me to afford one at any given time. :P
If there's no hope for Zelda anymore, dibs on the site becoming "Outer Heaven".
I thought we had agreed this would become Traverse Town Central...
Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on May 28, 2009, 11:19:55 PM
I thought we had agreed this would become Traverse Town Central...
o i c wut u did thar : P
...But let's try not to stray too far off-topic, guys. I'm sure we'll have enough to talk about, though, when it comes around.
Quote from: Gamefreak on May 27, 2009, 06:08:03 PM
I'm hoping for a new Ratchet and Clank Future trailer, and hopefully some gameplay footage.
And here it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-wheqHwoA&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-wheqHwoA&feature=channel_page)
That looks awesome. Completely. And that burping weapon was pretty funny. :P
I'm also very interested in this untitled project from Kojima Productions.
With any luck it'll be the next major installment of Metal Gear.
Capcom is also announcing one of their long-standing franchises is going to appear on a console it's never been on.
My guess? Ace Attorney 5 for the Wii maybe?
I'm looking forward to No More Heroes and the PSP Go.
Oh, and Dead Space Extraction, I have already seen gameplay footage and it is amazing.
More footage of the upcoming KH would be welcome too.
Well, Microsoft's showcasing is over, it seems. Quite impressive, in my opinion. Nintendo had better work hard to top it.
It's my understanding that Nintendo plans to unveil a new Wii Mario game tomorrow.
I'm going to be pretty upset if that's all.
CURSE YOU KOJIMA!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Rising.jpg)
For the 360
Aw well. At least 360 owners get a taste of the awesomeness that is Metal Gear Solid.
Never mind, it's looking to be multi-platform.
Yeah, we're packing up after school tomorrow in Sean's car, and heading to Dave's to watch Nintendo's showcase. They'd better do something to impress me. If I don't see anything impressive by the end of this year's E3, I'm packing up my stuff, and moving on to Microsoft.
And that's no joke either. ::)
To me, this is a do or die moment for Nintendo.
No good games in over a year and if they don't give me anything to look forward to at e3, I'm jumping ship on Nintendo.
Anyone noticed the camera shown duing Ubisoft's showcase?
It seems Wii is following Microsoft's example, or maybe they were born at the same time...
Nintendo's e3 is pretty VERY underwhelming so far.
Golden Sun 3 is the only worthwhile mention at the time of this post.
gg Nintendo, Women's Murder Club and a Heart Monitor, and some girly fashion game.
Nintendo: 1985-2009
Metroid is bringing it back.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 02, 2009, 09:44:42 AM
Nintendo's e3 is pretty VERY underwhelming so far.
Golden Sun 3 is the only worthwhile mention at the time of this post.
gg Nintendo, Women's Murder Club and a Heart Monitor, and some girly fashion game.
Nintendo: 1985-2009
Metroid is bringing it back.
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days and Xion's English voice say, "Hi"? >.>
Anyway, it wasn't as much fail as last year's, but no new
Zelda news, of course. However, we were told that it was an optimistic expectation for even E3, so I'm glad I'm not completely surprised.
It does beat last year's conference, there's no doubt about that.
But Nintendo needs to lay off the gas a bit with Mario games.
It's my opinion though, that the last second Metroid game saved it from rivaling last year's.
If I don't get get a Zelda game soon, it"s going to hit the fan.
Ball's in your court Sony.
Sony's Conference so far:
Uncharted 2 gameplay trailer
MAG Demo
PSP Go!
Metal Gear Solid - Peacewalker
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIV
I guess they kinda already did the Zelda thing earlier.
Also, FF XIII and XIV at the same time? :o Not much production time between them, huh?
Final Fantasy XIV is going to be an MMORPG.
Also, to add on to PS3's event. Assassin's Creed 2 footage and God of War 3 footage.
I have some pretty good news, depending on your expectations. Yes, it is
Zelda related. :)
I read a roundtable discussion with Miyamoto, and what is described is quite intriguing:
Quote7:03 p.m.: [Miyamoto] [ s ]hows new illustration for the next Zelda for Wii. Nothing to show yet, but it shows an adult link. More grown up than ever before.
7:04 p.m.: "We'd like to make it compatible with Wii MotionPlus. It's quite possible it will be playable only with Wii MotionPlus."
7:05 p.m.: "Think of Zelda while you're trying some of the archery and sword play in Wii Sports Resort," Miyamoto say.
"7:05 p.m.: "There are people who think of Zelda more as an RPG with simpler controls, so trying to figure out how to make everybody happy is something that's going to concern me," says Miyamoto.
Discuss.
Ah yes. A picture of Link is Nintendo's big reveal.
No offense, but I don't think there's a gamer who didn't know Nintendo was working on a new Zelda. To get 2 new Mario games for Wii, and a new Metroid game, the only thing that shows that Nintendo is doing what everybody knew they were is a picture, is still a dissapointment.
[Citation needed]
Quote from: JQ Pickwick on June 02, 2009, 07:31:29 PM
[Citation needed]
http://desertcolossus.com/forum/index.php?topic=6113.msg198978#new
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 02, 2009, 07:29:24 PM
Ah yes. A picture of Link is Nintendo's big reveal.
No offense, but I don't think there's a gamer who didn't know Nintendo was working on a new Zelda. To get 2 new Mario games for Wii, and a new Metroid game, the only thing that shows that Nintendo is doing what everybody knew they were is a picture, is still a dissapointment.
I know it is, but I'd rather have this than nothing.
Here, have a link:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/990/990149p1.html
Metroid looked nice. But its not enough. Next time new consoles roll around, I'm making the switch to Microsoft. I'm sick and tired of being repeatedly dissapointed by Nintendo. I've seriously about had it. If I see one more super friggin mario game, I'm gonna hurl. His name doesn't even mean enough to me anymore to have even felt bad for not capitalizing his name. As far as Wii goes, it looks like I'm leaving Nintendo. Never thought the day would come.
Why so much hatred of Super Mario Galaxy?
Oh and there's THIS
(http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/100_2145-495x371.jpg)
You see that? That's Morton Koopa Jr! The Koopalings are back!
In regards to the Legend of Zelda drawing, I would've prefered that they did not show the drawing.
Like I said, I don't think there's a gamer who didn't know Nintendo was working on a new Zelda for the Wii. It was my thought that the game probably had some serious development time behind it given the amount of time that's passed since Twilight Princess. But to have the only thing representing anything resembling the next Zelda game be a picture, I feel a bit cheated. Especially since they've managed to make plenty more Mario games and a couple Metroid games since Twilight Princess came out.
In this case, ignorance was bliss.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 03, 2009, 05:43:51 AM
Like I said, I don't think there's a gamer who didn't know Nintendo was working on a new Zelda for the Wii.
But the "big reveal" was that it was Mature oriented, as opposed to a kiddy Wind Waker type style (which I have no problem with but prefer TP style better)
My problem isn't the content of the reveal. My problem is that they've had close to 3 years to work on a new Zelda game for the Wii since Twilight Princess, and have since released 1 Mario game and 1 Metroid game, with 2 more Marios and another Metroid planned for release.
And all they have to show for 3 years of work is a picture. That shows that they've spent little to no time working on it.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 03, 2009, 07:47:26 AM
My problem isn't the content of the reveal. My problem is that they've had close to 3 years to work on a new Zelda game for the Wii since Twilight Princess, and have since released 1 Mario game and 1 Metroid game, with 2 more Marios and another Metroid planned for release.
And all they have to show for 3 years of work is a picture. That shows that they've spent little to no time working on it.
From what little info we were given, it seems to me that the game engine is already in advanced development. Do consider that they are probably working on a new one this time (TP had a shockingly simmilar engine to WW). So we have an engine and work art, which is actually a lot. Of course I'll stfu until I see some footage.
Is there any hope for ComicCon?
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 03, 2009, 07:47:26 AM
And all they have to show for 3 years of work is a picture. That shows that they've spent little to no time working on it.
That last sentence is untrue. The new game has supposedly been in development since
Twilight Princess was launched, and we all know that Nintendo loves to keep secrets.
If that's the case then, seems a bit stupid to just show a picture rather than a full blown press conference that a lot of people watch.
...I'm not exactly sure where you're getting at here.
He's saying Nintendo is lazy and deserves to die for not having said anything consistent related to Zelda.
I guess he really wanted to see that picture.
Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on June 03, 2009, 06:25:45 PM
He's saying Nintendo is lazy and deserves to die for not having said anything consistent related to Zelda.
I guess he really wanted to see that picture.
So did I :P
My complaint is this...
Quote
"There are people who think of Zelda more as an RPG with simpler controls, so trying to figure out how to make everybody happy is something that's going to concern me,"
Zelda is a Fantasy Action/Adventure. Not an RPG.
I'm jumping ship if they make it an RPG.
I Prefer they way they've been making it, sure the story needs a revamp and the difficulty has slowly been getting easier, with TP the worst offender of all. ::)
But I don't wanna see another overplayed RPG. I love action adventure. I hope he doesn't make it RPG like those Game-illiterate people think it is. Or maybe I'm just reading that quote wrong...
I can't really think of anything that would classify Zelda as an RPG.
I think I can:
"DA DA DA DAAAAAAAAAA! You got a Heart Container! Many would just consider this as a simple life energy upgrade, but some still think of it as a level up in general."
I'm quite sure TML wrote an article at ZeldaBlog about this kind of debate before...
Well, upgrades are in part relate to RPG's, but this is not as explored in Zelda, you can only upgrade things like health, magic, strength and deffense, but already at a set level.
In any case, the RPG classification of Zelda is wrong in my eyes, it's an adventure/puzzle/action game, and that's why I love it so much.
Y O Y, no Birth by Sleep hands on. I'm sad.
EDIT:
QuoteIGN: Finally, can you tell us something cool that you haven't told anybody else?
Shigeru Miyamoto: [Laughs] I think I've told you guys stuff already that I haven't told other people. Now this is something that was just announced last night out of Japan. I don't have any solid plans outside of Japan, but we are releasing with Monster Hunter Tri a black Wii. And then there's a classic controller grip.
So a black Wii, huh? Pretty cool, but a little late.
I suppose AoL was an RPG...
Yeah, and the game was a critical and comercial success...
I suppose that if you just take the word "Role-Play Game", there's a suffecient enough argument for some obstinate jerk to push his idea for a really long time. You are playing the role of Link, but then pretty much every game would be an RPG. So I dunno.
Well, it's over.
Over all impression:
Natal rules.
PS3 prevails.
Wii now again has hope.
Penny Arcade summary of Nintendo's press conference:
(warning: Language)
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/3/ (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/3/)
It's pretty accurate.
Yeah, it was.
While we're on that...
I was looking through the game selection at Wal-mart the other day, and I noticed that Nintendo has really gone overboard with Mario and Sonic.
Most of those games are cliche', and from what I heard, they aren't that impressive.
Quote from: 2nd Lieutenant Jean Havoc on June 08, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
Yeah, it was.
While we're on that...
I was looking through the game selection at Wal-mart the other day, and I noticed that Nintendo has really gone overboard with Mario and Sonic.
Most of those games are cliche', and from what I heard, they aren't that impressive.
Pffft, real stores are for lamers. Real gamers shop online.
Quote from: 2nd Lieutenant Jean Havoc on June 08, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
Yeah, it was.
While we're on that...
I was looking through the game selection at Wal-mart the other day, and I noticed that Nintendo has really gone overboard with Mario and Sonic.
Most of those games are cliche', and from what I heard, they aren't that impressive.
I don't find that possible as Sega is the North American developer for those games. Nintendo only covers the Japanese versions. So if you see a lot of the Sega characters have more skill, now you know why. ;)
Oh yeah, any news on the new Pokemon game at E3?
You mean HG/SS or Scramble!?
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 05, 2009, 06:24:31 AM
Penny Arcade summary of Nintendo's press conference:
(warning: Language)
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/3/ (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/3/)
It's pretty accurate.
lmao
I love the title to that too.
Anyways, my friend filled me in on a game I hadn't heard about. Its for the DS, and its called Scribblenauts. It looks really cool.
Heart gold Sould Silver please.
I've been off the internet for a week and won't be on much.
Playing more video games. You know.
I wanna sleep 'till the next E3.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 04, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
I can't really think of anything that would classify Zelda as an RPG.
(http://www.zeldalegends.net/admin/style_emoticons/default/horror.gif)
Were you conscious when you wrote that?! Zelda was the very first RPG. RPG means
Role
Playing
Game, not turn based battles and annoying stats.
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 11, 2009, 03:25:12 PM
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 04, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
I can't really think of anything that would classify Zelda as an RPG.
(http://www.zeldalegends.net/admin/style_emoticons/default/horror.gif)
Were you conscious when you wrote that?! Zelda was the very first RPG. RPG means Role Playing Game, not turn based battles and annoying stats.
Uhh, no. That would be Dungeons and Dragons.
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 11, 2009, 03:25:12 PM
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 04, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
I can't really think of anything that would classify Zelda as an RPG.
(http://www.zeldalegends.net/admin/style_emoticons/default/horror.gif)
Were you conscious when you wrote that?! Zelda was the very first RPG. RPG means Role Playing Game, not turn based battles and annoying stats.
From a programming standpoint, anything that deals damage probably has a stat involved that tells the program how much life to subtract from enemies' variables. A player might not be able to see these stats, but they're still there.
Zelda was/is/(I hope)always will be an ADVENTURE game.
An RPG Usually has a stat hit/miss thing, even if it's really simple.
Zelda doesn't rely on numbers to hit like an RPG does. It uses if your sword hits it it's hurt.
Zelda in no way classifies as an RPG other than you're playing the role of Link, but that'd mean EVERY game is a RPG.
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 11, 2009, 03:25:12 PM
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 04, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
I can't really think of anything that would classify Zelda as an RPG.
(http://www.zeldalegends.net/admin/style_emoticons/default/horror.gif)
Were you conscious when you wrote that?! Zelda was the very first RPG. RPG means Role Playing Game, not turn based battles and annoying stats.
By that logic, every game's an RPG.
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:23:06 PM
Zelda in no way classifies as an RPG other than you're playing the role of Link, but that'd mean EVERY game is a RPG.
I quote myself for Truth, Zelda is not an RPG.
Oh, my mistake. Zelda was the first RPG video game. Myiamoto even said it himself. (Don't ask me when or where though, i can't remember ;) )
And no, not every game would be defined as an RPG by "my logic"
Yeah, your logic says anything where you assume the role of someone means it's a role playing game.
Unless you play yourself. (Which would be AWESOME!)
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 11, 2009, 05:01:06 PM
Oh, my mistake. Zelda was the first RPG video game. Myiamoto even said it himself. (Don't ask me when or where though, i can't remember ;) )
And no, not every game would be defined as an RPG by "my logic"
Try Adventure for the Atari 2600.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 11, 2009, 04:31:31 PM
By that logic, every game's an RPG.
Tetris says, "Hi."
Quote from: Pokemon Professor Roy on June 11, 2009, 04:23:06 PM
Zelda doesn't rely on numbers to hit like an RPG does. It uses if your sword hits it it's hurt.
The thing is, though, different swords deal different amounts of damage per hit, still bringing up the argument about a hidden variable supporting the RPG elements of the game. It wouldn't be too long of a shot to say that other variables include hitbox range and generic pseudorandom elements like enemy position, etc.
I guess this is just one of those situations where it doesn't really matter if a game's classified as what, since the arguably "necessary" criteria are in very gray areas, making it rather difficult to definitively conclude one side or the other as fact. Kind of like anime. If it's "not Japanese" (heh, I hate the definition of
anime, too :'( ), then it's not anime. Some things, though, are so very influenced by the anime style that any dividing lines between anime and non-anime are pretty much negligible.
So anyway, how did we get off the topic about E3 and onto an RPG definition debate?
Shigeru's talking about people thinking Zelda is an RPG.
Interview with Miyamoto and Wired.com about new zelda and mario (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/06/shigeru-miyamoto-interview/)
So it looks like the new Zelda is still fairly early into development.
I figured a bump to this topic is relevant, given the week.
E3 2010 is here, guys! Will Nintendo sweep the show with Zelda? Or will others overshadow it?
...Yeah. Games overshadowing ZELDA? Come, now... :P
Start discussing!
Does anyone know if Pokemon Black and White will be shown off at E3?
I'd also like to hear more about Metroid: Other M. And news about the next Fire Emblem game would be nice, especially if the mechanics return to the FE 8 system. Seriously, FE 8 worked; why didn't they stick with it?
I suppose it's too close to the release date to hear about Birth By Sleep (September 7, 2010!), but it would still be nice if we can hear something about Kingdom Hearts 3.
Considering that HeartGold/SoulSilver weren't showcased last year, I kinda doubt Black/White will.
Innovation.
358/2 Days was released September 29 last year, and Nintendo's E3 was on June 2. I don't see a problem. Still, I didn't know that the release date was September 7! That's awesome!
I also expect something about Re:coded, if the rumors of it being on the Nintendo DS are true.
EDIT: Seems like they may be! Another Kingdom Hearts game for the DS? How awesome is that!?
That is really awesome about Re:coded being on the DS, because I like using cell phones as a means to communicate. You know, like they were originally designed to do?
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword? In an Ocarina of Time-esque style?
FINALLY!
Wait, what? Really? Post links as soon as you can, please.Go down to the Games section for a link Mags posted.
"Skyward Sword." That's a cool sub-title right there.
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 15, 2010, 09:26:19 AM
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword? In an Ocarina of Time-esque style?
FINALLY!
COULD. NOT. AGREE. MORE!!!!
I am so stunned by this new trailer.
Is there a release date yet? Holy cow I have to watch it again.
According to Reggie, it's slated for release next year, so nothing definite yet. We could've seen it coming.
And yes, I need to see it again, too. Too much win to not.
Also, Valve is finally giving the PS3 some love.
Tears of joy right here, guys.
Quote from: Edward Elric on June 15, 2010, 09:39:43 PM
Also, Valve is finally giving the PS3 some love.
Tears of joy right here, guys.
Ewwwwwwww...
*Preps Steam and waits for Portal 2 to show up in Library*
I'm going to start compiling a list of trailers shown and post them here. First and foremost:
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYgrMz_XBI)
Kid Icarus Uprising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCn4qcCKhAo&feature=channel)
Infamous 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ZGqOQqx2o&feature=channel)
Donkey Kong Country (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aMaBETX-xg)
Metroid Other M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV4O5CrQDB8)
LittleBigPlanet 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuT65P8_XpQ&has_verified=1)
Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvVTn2zafyA)
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNs4-kRLaE)
Did anybody else get a decidedly Zelda feel watching the Kid Icarus Uprising trailer? I'm definitely interested in it.
And is the new Donkey Kong Country game an enhanced remake? Or is it supposed to be an entirely new game?
Metroid Other M: *drools*
It seems to be a trend now to make new games of old franchises in the style of the older games. They did the same thing with New Super Mario Bros. and Sonic the Hedgehog 4 and Mega Man 9 and 10.
Is anyone hearing anything about Okami or Golden Sun? Fisk? Tacheon?
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 16, 2010, 08:09:44 AM
Is anyone hearing anything about Okami or Golden Sun? Fisk? Tacheon?
Can't wait for a new Golden Sun. Nintendo freaking RAWKED this E3. Marvel Vs Capcom doesn't look bad either. SHORYUKEN!! Kid Icarus huh? sigh... I guess I sort of
have to buy a 3DS now... I was kind of hoping it would be for the Wii, but you know what? I don't mind. We asked for Pit and we got him. Metroid looks awesome again, and I really hope it's worth the money I'm gonna spend on it. Am I missing anything here? Oh, wait, there's that Zelda game too. It was kind of the weaker point of Nintendo's E3. I think everyone was really waiting for Donkey Kong. HOLY CRAP I SWEAR TO GOD IF LOZ:SS IS NOT OUT IN LESS THAN ONE YEAR FROM YESTERDAY I'M GOING TO BREAK INTO THE HQ AND TAKE IT MYSELF.
I'm going to post here what I posted at the talk forums:
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#1. The Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYgrMz_XBI&playnext_from=TL&videos=sbWrdJxBYhM)
#2. Miyamoto's demonstration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7nHtgmldGA)
#3. Showfloor Gameplay Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIc9u49Q914)
So what are your thoughts?
What I've noticed from the youtube public is the resentment towards the cell shaded graphics. To be honest with you all, I was actually hoping for something like this. The Twilight Princess graphics were just too dark for a Zelda game. I loved the colorful mix of cartoony fantasy and real danger that Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask made us feel. I loved how it didn't have to be dark to feel dark. The best games are not always composed of amazingly realistic graphics. I love the fact that they're going back to being a bit bright with the series.
The controls looked pretty sketchy when Miyamoto was demonstrating. It looked unresponsive, and he didn't seem to know how to use his own controller. Even though he was assuring us that it was interference from all the wireless communications going on the audience. If you watch the "Showfloor Gameplay Demo" link that I included in this post, you'll see that the controls actually look pretty smooth. I was relieved to see everything working much better. I really like the new item system. No more pausing the action to set an item to a button.
The bombs look to provide a lot more dungeon puzzle options. With the ability to roll, throw, or place them, it looks to be awesome. Bowling will never be the same after you roll a bomb into a group of enemies, I'll tell you h'what. Don't know what to think about the whip or the beetle. I simply didn't see enough of either of them to measure out their uses. I'd probably just be using the beetle to scout out the area to see just what I'm up against around the corner. The whip... I just... I guess it's kinky? If you could wrap it around an enemy's foot, and whip their legs out from under them(finishing them off with a jerk of your sword), that'd be awesome. Epic enough for me to give the whip a thumbs up.
Last notes:
- Hooray for being able to shoot beams! :D
- This is the fastest I've ever seen Link run (without Pegasus boots)
- OKTOROKS!!
Quote from: Commander Ray Shepard on June 16, 2010, 07:02:39 AM
Quote from: Edward Elric on June 15, 2010, 09:39:43 PM
Also, Valve is finally giving the PS3 some love.
Tears of joy right here, guys.
Ewwwwwwww...
*Preps Steam and waits for Portal 2 to show up in Library*
Oh, shush, I'm buying it on the PC, too. It's just that seeing Valve, or at least Gabe Newell, have come a full 180 degrees about the PS3 does my heart glad.
I'm considering buying it for the PS3, too, though, if only to check out the Steamworks integration. I can imagine the feeling of sheer geek bliss from playing Portal 2 on my desktop, saving, and picking up right where I left off with the PS3 version.
My only possible gripe with this new Zelda, and this isn't even Zelda's fault, is that I've always been iffy about Wii controls in general. I've always thought that the idea of adding Gamecube controls as an alternative to Wii games would be a plus.
Quote from: Gamefreak on June 16, 2010, 06:53:19 PM
My only possible gripe with this new Zelda, and this isn't even Zelda's fault, is that I've always been iffy about Wii controls in general. I've always thought that the idea of adding Gamecube controls as an alternative to Wii games would be a plus.
I'm
always iffy about the Wii controls. A good ol' fashion controller just always feels so much more familiar in my hands. I feel unstoppable with it. With the Wiimote and Nunchuck, I feel like I'm holding a pair a scissors with boxing gloves.
Hey, Mags, do you have any more info on Kingdom Hearts? I was talking to Alpha about Square Enix at E3, and the only thing he mentioned was a KH for the 3DS, but he didn't hear that it was Re:coded.
Kirby's Epic Yarn trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK4gKc9OuTk&feature=fvst) - It looks so cute! :)
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5yUp89-e9U&feature=channel) - Now I really need to finish Golden Sun and get Golden Sun 2.
Metroid: Other M trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHMjJRETVU) - To replace Gamefreak's link.
From what I can gather, Re:coded is going on the original DS, while 3D is going on the 3DS.
So, I was at IGN skimming an article on the 3DS, pictured below.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/FeetLord/3DS.jpg)
See that knob on the by the top screen? Guess what, it's not for the volume like I originally thought it was. It controls the 3D effects.
Quote from: IGN
Prior to the system announcement, Nintendo ensured that gamers will have the ability to turn on and off the 3D effect. The system has a slider control on the right side of the top half of the system that can intensify or weaken the 3D effect – pushing the slider all the way down turns the stereoscopic effect off completely. An LED indicator will light up when the 3D effect is turned on, no matter its intensity.
If you're like me and think that things popping out at you in 3D is best used for horror, rejoice! It's an optional feature! ;D
Article linkage so you can read it for yourself. (http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html)
More info:
Quote from: IGNStandard DS games will likely not have the ability to be displayed in stereoscopic 3D on the 3DS. DS games will likely only be displayed in standard 2D.
The 3DS has a current release date of March 2011, perhaps even earlier.
Oh, and hurray for Re:coded going to the DS. Totally forgot you said something about that when I found an article on IGN confirming it.
The Parasite Eve series is making a comeback. (http://psp.ign.com/articles/109/1099566p1.html)
Well, technically, it's already here, but whatever.
I don't have to tell you to start discussing, so START DISCUSSING!
Well, I haven't heard any news yet, and I'm only getting on for a little while, so I'm not digging around for news right now. But the top four things I want to hear about from E3 2011:
1.) Nintendo's Project Cafe
2.) Sony's NGP PlayStation Vita
3.) The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
4.) Team Ico's The Last Guardian
Come to think of it, also:
5.) Paper Mario for the 3DS
6.) Starfox 64 for the 3DS
7.) Metal Gear Solid 3 for the 3DS
Something unexpected, guys. A new Sly Cooper game!? REALLY!? I think I forgive Sony for not showcasing a new Ratchet and Clank trailer at its main conference. :>
Going off what has been shown so far the ones that are getting me majorly excited are Tomb Raider and Mass Effect 3. But I was going to be excited for them anyway.
I seriously had tears in my eyes in the Tomb Raider trailer and demo, how could they do that to my Lara?!
I'm also looking forward to some of the Kinect stuff they talked about (Yes I bought one okay!), especially Dance Central 2, and Fable: The Journey. Plus the thought of using it to be able to speak in Mass Effect 3 is just insane!
Quote from: AliCal on June 07, 2011, 12:56:20 AM
I seriously had tears in my eyes in the Tomb Raider trailer and demo, how could they do that to my Lara?!
They're rebooting the Tomb Raider franchise and making Lara a more realistic character. And from the replies Game Informer got earlier this year after they published their Tomb Raider article, most fans, particular female gamers, are happy for the new portrayal. After all, a strong female character (or any character, for that matter) can still be scared; because that's strength, doing what you need to do in a difficult and scary situation even though you would rather run away from it.
Also, can you guys post links to your sources? It would be nice to read more than just, "Hey guys! New
Sly Cooper game!"
What could be a strong case for getting a 360 and Kinect (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/06/watch-live-television-on-xbox-this-fall.aspx): The ability to watch TV as it airs. The article also briefly discusses other content that the Kinect will be used for this fall.
The PSP's next iteration: The PlayStation Vita. (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/06/playstation-vita-unveiled-detailed-for-real.aspx) Can't wait to hear more about this.
The Playstation Vita is surprisingly priced at 249 US Dollars for the basic WiFi model, and 299 US Dollars for the 3G + Wifi model.
It's an interesting day when Sony and Nintendo are competing on price.
I'm watching Nintendo E3 right now. Dude, Luigi's Mansion 2 and MGS Snake Eater 3D...
Need I say more?
Oh, also, Star Fox, Kid Icharus, Pokemon, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Resident Evil, etc.
so wait... project cafe... its not a console... its a controller!?!?
Quote from: Tacheon Black on June 07, 2011, 09:43:09 AM
I'm watching Nintendo E3 right now. Dude, Luigi's Mansion 2 and MGS Snake Eater 3D...
Need I say more?
Oh, also, Star Fox, Kid Icharus, Pokemon, Super Mario, Mario Kart, Resident Evil, etc.
Please link me. I worked so late last night that I slept in. :-[
I don't know where to link to other than e3.nintendo.com
I was watching it on G4/
I can't believe the new controller... I don't know if I like it.
Nintendo: "PORTABLE!"
Me: "Yeah, like a portable keyboard, or a portable TV."
I haven't seen the Starfox or Zelda vids yet, but I AM psyched for a new Starfox.
HOLY SNOT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9IdpvjGba4)
I would buy Twilight Princess again, even though it wasn't my favorite.
I dunno, but I'm kinda psyched about the fact that Assassin's Creed, Tekken, and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon were announced for the Wii U. There's also a console, and it's a tad taller than that of a disc, it looks like. It looks pretty darn small. BUT BOY, DOES IT LOOK POWERFUL!
EDIT: I found out some more info. It's right here (http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/about)
Nintendo's E3... Yeah, the inner fanboy in me went insane.
Awesome Zelda retrospective.
Holy crap, flying of some sort was pretty much confirmed in Skyward Sword!
"DO A BARREL ROLL!"
What's that I hear? A NEW SMASH BROS. GAME!?
Luigi's Mansion 2.
An impressive-looking console.
Surprisingly-good confirmed third-party support.
Seriously, I don't understand how people can complain about this.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 07, 2011, 06:00:46 AM
Quote from: AliCal on June 07, 2011, 12:56:20 AM
I seriously had tears in my eyes in the Tomb Raider trailer and demo, how could they do that to my Lara?!
They're rebooting the Tomb Raider franchise and making Lara a more realistic character. And from the replies Game Informer got earlier this year after they published their Tomb Raider article, most fans, particular female gamers, are happy for the new portrayal. After all, a strong female character (or any character, for that matter) can still be scared; because that's strength, doing what you need to do in a difficult and scary situation even though you would rather run away from it.
Also, can you guys post links to your sources? It would be nice to read more than just, "Hey guys! New Sly Cooper game!"
Yeah I get what they're doing, I've been following it ever since they first announced a new Tomb Raider months ago. And I love that they're rebooting it, it's nice that they're making her a lot more relatable, and less perfect. But still, I've grown up with the games, I guess it just shows that they've done a good job if it made me so emotional!
And I've been getting all my stuff from ign as it updates, plus some people posting on facebook who are actually watching it.
I think they have finally took a step up. I'm happy with the way Nintendo is turning out. And personally, the controller with the screen could be useful from time to time.
It'd be useful to me, as well. There have been times when I had to move my Wii to my room because my mom wanted to use the television--quite a few times, actually.
Did the new Kirby excite anyone else? The Wii one, I mean, though Mass Attack looks like a lot of fun too. But the Wii game reminds me of Kirby 64--my favorite in the series--but beefed up and improved. I am a happy camper.
I didn't notice a Kirby game...what's it called?
Well it's been a while since I've been on and I just had to get back to hear all the hype about E3! And OH EM GEE I was like a little school girl filled with bliss when I saw what was in store. I am skeptical about the Wii U tablet with how the shoulder buttons are though. And does anyone else know if the Zelda for the Wii U will be a port to adapt to it from the Wii or a new game? I was just thinking about that because they did have a playable demo on it and if the Wii U isn't arriving till next year and Skyward is this year I was like "how's that workin?" And I have to give Nintendo props for appealing to the hardcore gamers with that lineup while still keeping a nice causal feel with it.
And here's a link for Kirby :P
http://www.shacknews.com/article/68795/e3-2011-kirby-wii (http://www.shacknews.com/article/68795/e3-2011-kirby-wii)
Wait! Like, the Kirby game that looked like it's been in vaporware for years? Hot dang! It's nice to see that turn up.
Was that King Dedede and Meta Knight I saw alongside Kirby? Pretty dang sweet! I'll make that a must buy when it arrives.
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 07, 2011, 08:38:09 PM
What's that I hear? A NEW SMASH BROS. GAME!?
When you posted this, did you know that it'll be on both Wii U
and 3DS?! (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/07/smash-bros-headed-to-wii-u-and-3ds.aspx)
I wanna know how they're gonna do the Wii U controls the most for a Smash Bros. game, it will either be super epic or just a repeat of the Wii's.
Here's hoping it will be a combination of both Melee and Brawl, except bumped up to 11.
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 09, 2011, 06:16:30 AM
When you posted this, did you know that it'll be on both Wii U and 3DS?! (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/07/smash-bros-headed-to-wii-u-and-3ds.aspx)
I sure did! :D
Quote from: Pea-Tear Griffin on June 09, 2011, 09:44:21 AM
I wanna know how they're gonna do the Wii U controls the most for a Smash Bros. game, it will either be super epic or just a repeat of the Wii's.
But wasn't
Brawl's technically the same as
Melee's, only with different physics, no Wavedashing, and tripping?
So, from what I gather, this is how the next Smash is gonna work...
There are two games. One for the WiiU, one for the 3DS. The console version is your standard improvement on the series; more characters, modes, etc. The handheld, however, lets you create a character and improve its stats, customizing its moveset and such to your liking. Your character from the 3DS version can be transferred to the WiiU and fight against all the standard characters, or against others online.
That would be really cool, if they can make character creation easier and, yet, with a wide range of control.
Here's hoping they make their online servers better. I heard that, for Brawl, they use SOAP, which I hear is relatively slow.
I just hope they allow Melee-style engine exploitation again, like wavedashing and falling invulnerability. In Brawl the ways that the pros got the advantage were less about skill and more about spamming :\
^Everyone knows it was because of Meta Knight. XD
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 09, 2011, 05:49:06 PM
^Everyone knows it was because of Meta Knight. XD
And Sonic...and Ike...and Marth...and Possibly Falco and Wolf. Is there anyone I missed?
Snake.
To be honest, Sonic, Ike, and Wolf are really quite manageable in comparison to MK and Snake.
Until it comes to their final smashes. My friend hates it when I lift him off the screen on Wolf/Falco's tank, or get a direct hit with Ike, and start screaming across the screen with Sonic.
SSB is the only fighting series that I feel players can't be cheap while playing. I've never faced someone I couldn't beat because they were "spamming" a move. If someone repeatedly uses a move, find the opening in it, and exploit the heck out of it. Spammers are notoriously dumb, and they'll probably keep trying (and failing).
It doesn't hurt that Brawl punishes spammers by making moves weaker if you use the same one several times in a row; that's a useful feature to keep.
And character creation in a SSB game? You're not talking about Miis, are you?
Probably not exclusively, no. I think he's talking about a system like in Soulcalibur 4.
Ooooh...that would be AWESOME.
Quote from: Link104 on June 12, 2011, 05:51:01 PM
Ooooh...that would be AWESOME.
Seconded.
Hey, did Xbox have something new besides Halo?
Not that I know of. Everything else that comes to mind is an upcoming port for another system. :P
But then again, I didn't see Microsoft's E3 because I thought they were going to start on the 7th, which was when the Web site said that E3 was going to start. Very misleading... >_>
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 13, 2011, 05:34:23 AM
Quote from: Link104 on June 12, 2011, 05:51:01 PM
Ooooh...that would be AWESOME.
Seconded.
Hey, did Xbox have something new besides Halo?
According to my friend who watched it, it was like 90% kinect crap. :-\
Quote from: Zelda Veteran on June 14, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 13, 2011, 05:34:23 AM
Quote from: Link104 on June 12, 2011, 05:51:01 PM
Ooooh...that would be AWESOME.
Seconded.
Hey, did Xbox have something new besides Halo?
According to my friend who watched it, it was like 90% kinect crap. :-\
From what I saw, they played a level of the new Modern Warfare at the beginning.