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Title: cheating?
Post by: Pyrgusfinn on June 18, 2009, 12:23:14 AM
hrmmm. so I found this article (http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/innovative-nintendo-game-help-system-to-debut-this-year/1326709) on Yahoo!
I would like to hear your opinions.
and... GO!
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Uximadesk on June 18, 2009, 01:37:02 AM
It won't really change a thing, only that bad players will be able to see the final cutscenes outside of youtube.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Hi no Seijin on June 18, 2009, 06:21:54 AM
QuoteIf a player gets stuck, they'll have the option to pause play and allow the game to take over and play itself through any rough patches.
It does sound like the new help system is optional, so if you don't like it, just don't use it instead of bickering about it and pissing everyone else off in the process.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: DW on June 18, 2009, 07:10:45 AM
This'll let them make games harder. Seperate the wheat from the chaff, gamers from non-gamers, you know...

Also, there's a topic about this already.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Deku on June 18, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
That's awesome!
This could mean harder difficulty on Legend of Zelda games!
Hoorah! ;D
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: HylianHero92 on June 18, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: ZeldaVeteran on June 18, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
That's awesome!
This could mean harder difficulty on Legend of Zelda games!
Hoorah! ;D


...

I think you're a bit mixed up.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Pyrgusfinn on June 18, 2009, 08:57:30 AM
Quote from: Shika on June 18, 2009, 07:10:45 AM
This'll let them make games harder. Seperate the wheat from the chaff, gamers from non-gamers, you know...

Also, there's a topic about this already.
whoops. sorry bout that. I didnt realize
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Pale Dim on June 18, 2009, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 18, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: ZeldaVeteran on June 18, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
That's awesome!
This could mean harder difficulty on Legend of Zelda games!
Hoorah! ;D


...

I think you're a bit mixed up.

Actually, I think he has a point. Remember how easy TP was? Especially in that final battle...It made the final battles of Shadow the hedgehog look hard.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: HylianHero92 on June 18, 2009, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: 2nd Lieutenant Jean Havoc on June 18, 2009, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 18, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: ZeldaVeteran on June 18, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
That's awesome!
This could mean harder difficulty on Legend of Zelda games!
Hoorah! ;D


...

I think you're a bit mixed up.

Actually, I think he has a point. Remember how easy TP was? Especially in that final battle...It made the final battles of Shadow the hedgehog look hard.

...

I'm starting to think I'm the confused one. "Future games will play themselves"

This is a good thing?!  :o
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Hi no Seijin on June 18, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
With what I understand of the Gambit system, FF XII can more or less play itself.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: TP Zelda on June 18, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
If people don't like it then why don't they just not use it? >.>
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Keaton on June 18, 2009, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 18, 2009, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: 2nd Lieutenant Jean Havoc on June 18, 2009, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: HackerHero92 on June 18, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: ZeldaVeteran on June 18, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
That's awesome!
This could mean harder difficulty on Legend of Zelda games!
Hoorah! ;D


...

I think you're a bit mixed up.

Actually, I think he has a point. Remember how easy TP was? Especially in that final battle...It made the final battles of Shadow the hedgehog look hard.

...

I'm starting to think I'm the confused one. "Future games will play themselves"

This is a good thing?!  :o

That it exists is still a punch in the face to fans.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Hi no Seijin on June 18, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: TP Zelda on June 18, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
If people don't like it then why don't they just not use it? >.>
Because moaning about it on the Internet is so much more fun.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: Uximadesk on June 18, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
Quote from: Hi no Seijin on June 18, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: TP Zelda on June 18, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
If people don't like it then why don't they just not use it? >.>
Because moaning about it on the Internet is so much more fun.
Yeah TP, why simplify things when you can make them much more complicated. Really, all you need is willpower and the desire to have a complete victory, it's not that hard.

On the other hand, seeing how cinematics are becoming a broader part of the games, maybe you can now sit and watch the compeling story of the game without playing it, at least that works for games focused on the plot.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: DW on June 18, 2009, 09:31:04 PM
Having it exist might not be a punch in the face to gamers at all. In fact, maybe it'll help make the difference between gamers and non-gamers all the more evident. If it means they'll be more willing to make games harder since they won't be worried about 'casual' gamers getting irritated, then fine. I'll play without it. I just want back my game quality.

Though I still think it's kind of ridiculous. I mean, I played the first couple LoZ games when I was under 10...
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: TP Zelda on June 18, 2009, 09:44:05 PM
Quote from: Shika on June 18, 2009, 09:31:04 PM
Having it exist might not be a punch in the face to gamers at all. In fact, maybe it'll help make the difference between gamers and non-gamers all the more evident. If it means they'll be more willing to make games harder since they won't be worried about 'casual' gamers getting irritated, then fine. I'll play without it. I just want back my game quality.

Though I still think it's kind of ridiculous. I mean, I played the first couple LoZ games when I was under 10...

I did, too.

I dunno, I think it'd be kinda fun to see the game play itself.
After I beat it, of course.
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: darkphantomime on June 18, 2009, 09:53:07 PM
This is basically why I've been watching a lot of speedruns lately, even speedruns of games I haven't even played (or only partially played). So many great games, so little time :\
Title: Re: cheating?
Post by: MagmarFire on June 18, 2009, 10:19:39 PM
So when you think about it, it can give both types of gamers something good. It would also possibly give speedrunners a time to beat--complete the game faster than the game can complete itself. It sounds interesting when put in those terms...