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Zelda Lore => Theories => Topic started by: Vaati on August 08, 2009, 08:32:29 AM

Title: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on August 08, 2009, 08:32:29 AM
For those of you who have seen the poster for the new Wii Zelda, wouldn't you agree that the girl looks a lot like the fairy queen from Wind Waker?
(http://purenintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/1245051732275.jpg)
That's one theory that came up and, also, someone on DeviantART pointed out that she may be the reincarnation of the master sword (because, as you know, Link doesn't have a sword according to the poster)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: larwaa on August 08, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
Can the Fairy Queen from WW be involved at all in the Child-Link timeline? It is possible that she existed before OoT and all, I know. But still :p
The figure on the poster seems far more muture than the FQ as well. Then again, it's possible that she chose to look a bit different in the Child-Link timeline.

Mastersword? Seems possible, but I don't have any thoughts about it. I kinda like NOT making theories about stuff. Just did though, lol.  :(
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Keaton on August 08, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Vaati on August 08, 2009, 08:32:29 AM
For those of you who have seen the poster for the new Wii Zelda, wouldn't you agree that the girl looks a lot like the fairy queen from Wind Waker?
(http://purenintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/1245051732275.jpg)
That's one theory that came up and, also, someone on DeviantART pointed out that she may be the reincarnation of the master sword (because, as you know, Link doesn't have a sword according to the poster)

Thoughts?

You need to listen to the podcast, love.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on August 09, 2009, 07:32:30 AM
What did it say? My computer runs too slow to load podcasts. I have Dial-up.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on August 09, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
You could read the transcript, found here (http://www.desertcolossus.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1247334585&archive=1249706750&start_from=&ucat=1&). ;)
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on August 11, 2009, 02:03:48 PM
Thank you! But...the page says stuff like "news file doesn't exist" and stuff. It just looks like a big mess of HTML.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on August 11, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
Aw, confound it. It must've gone dead on me or something. I'll see if I can get a fresh link.

EDIT: Okay, see if this works. (http://www.desertcolossus.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1247334585&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&) If it doesn't, try this one (http://sixpop.com/files/119/SandCast%20Transcription.txt) instead.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Deku on September 01, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
You know, I've been thinking about this lately, and I started to wonder if perhaps this is the game centering around the Great Flood. I know they state that the hero did not appear, but it would still be cool if that were the case. I mean, it says that the game is placed a long time after Twilight Princess, but because Hyrule is still intact (if indeed it is), then it took place before the Great Flood. I've also noticed that the "Mysterious Girl" looks a lot like a Zora in Twilight Princess art style. What if it was the spirit of a Zora who knows what's going to happen to her people (the disappearance of the Zora in Wind Waker). It is theorized that the Zora transformed into the Rito, and while it is heavily heavily implied in the games, they never straight up said that it was the case. Here's to wishful thinking, and hoping for a Project Deluge.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Keaton on September 01, 2009, 07:02:50 PM
HERE'S SOMETHING TO BLOW YOUR MINDS

Maybe that isn't Link.  Maybe that isn't the Hero at all.  Maybe this is Valley of the Deluge, and the Hero failed to show up-- and only the Hero can wield the Master Sword.  Since there's no one to use it in the face of the impending doom, the Sword awoke as a being and is aiding another hero, but isn't being used as a sword per se.  I mean, it's a stretch, but... that'd be cool.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Hi no Seijin on September 01, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
Supposing that Nintendo is following their split timeline dealie, ZV, I don't think the Great Flood is going to be happening any time after the events of Twilight Princess; wasn't it stated that TWW took place in the Adult Timeline while TP took place in the Child Timeline?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Uximadesk on September 01, 2009, 10:24:15 PM
Not stated but heavily implied.
Now I'm not really sure I wan't to play a game about the flood...
Aunuma said tha game would take place in another era, not necessarily after TP.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Deku on September 02, 2009, 06:14:53 AM
Quote from: Rorschach Mikaudes on September 01, 2009, 10:24:15 PM
Not stated but heavily implied.
Now I'm not really sure I wan't to play a game about the flood...
Aunuma said tha game would take place in another era, not necessarily after TP.
Well, notice that in the art, we got OoT Link's hair style back :)
And you're right HnS, I thought about that already, but just because it has TP graphics doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be in the same timeline at TP. I, for some reason, remember somebody stating that it was being placed AFTER TP. If it just says in the different era, then it could be anything. I'll see if I can find when they said that it would after TP.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: larwaa on September 02, 2009, 03:30:14 PM
Anyone notice how they're standing in a seemingly fresh hole in a wall? And that the girl is facing it, as if she just blew it open or something, while Link is watching their backs. But the looks of it it could very possibly be the other way around, Link is the one facing forward, having just blown it up somehow, and the girl is watching their backs.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Deku on September 02, 2009, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: larwaa on September 02, 2009, 03:30:14 PM
Anyone notice how they're standing in a seemingly fresh hole in a wall? And that the girl is facing it, as if she just blew it open or something, while Link is watching their backs. But the looks of it it could very possibly be the other way around, Link is the one facing forward, having just blown it up somehow, and the girl is watching their backs.
Actually, it looks to me as if her eyes are closed... You think Nintendo did this on purpose so that we'd over-analyze it?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: larwaa on September 02, 2009, 08:50:34 PM
Who said that she even has to open her eyes to see? :p I mean, look at her. She's certainly special. I actually looked closer when you said that, about her eyes being closed. But if you look real close, in a large-scale pic, you can see an iris and a pupil, or something that very much resembles it anyways. And considering how her entire head is made out of a silvery substance, why should we think that her eyes are any different?

Perhaps that's exactly what they want us to do? Analyze it, make up theories.. And so they can see what the people want and perhaps make a game inspired by what they've read. I'm not saying that Nintendo has lost it's spark and needs a new source of inspiration, gah. I'm sure you understand what I mean. If not, I'm sorry that I'm unable to make myself any clearer.

Btw: As I was looking at a large-scale version of the picture, I noticed something that very much resembles an eye. Right next to the tip of Link's shield, on the left. Though it's probably just my imagination.

And here's a link for a large-scale pic of what we are looking at.
http://wagj.co.uk/images/zelda/zelda_wii_artwork1.jpg
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: TP Zelda on September 13, 2009, 05:52:16 AM
Quote from: Davy Jones on September 01, 2009, 07:02:50 PM
HERE'S SOMETHING TO BLOW YOUR MINDS

Maybe that isn't Link.  Maybe that isn't the Hero at all.  Maybe this is Valley of the Deluge, and the Hero failed to show up-- and only the Hero can wield the Master Sword.  Since there's no one to use it in the face of the impending doom, the Sword awoke as a being and is aiding another hero, but isn't being used as a sword per se.  I mean, it's a stretch, but... that'd be cool.

That blew mah eyes. lol

I think that's a good theoryyy, Tacheon.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: DW on September 13, 2009, 10:15:46 PM
The only thing is that it doesn't really seem like Nintendo's style...it would be great, but the likelihood of them using something like that just doesn't seem very high.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on September 14, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
I heard a theory. A very interesting one.

According to this guy, if I remember everything correctly, the cave symbolizes the mind, and the fire represents destruction. What if the game goes over the concept of Link's mind?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Keaton on September 16, 2009, 03:54:41 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on September 14, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
I heard a theory. A very interesting one.

According to this guy, if I remember everything correctly, the cave symbolizes the mind, and the fire represents destruction. What if the game goes over the concept of Link's mind?

Although that's interesting, I doubt now that Zelda has turned "casual" they're going to delve that deeply into psychology.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on September 16, 2009, 06:48:03 AM
I was thinking more about the simple concept of his sanity, but whatever.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Deku on September 16, 2009, 02:05:09 PM
I'm leaning more towards the ideas that:
A) Ganondorf/someone else destroyed the Master Sword completely
B) The entity is the spirit of the Master Sword.

These are the two most likely outcomes IMHO.
Someone please correct me, because I'm not too fond of either of these plots, especially the second one.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on September 16, 2009, 06:44:25 PM
Why not the second one? Just curious.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Deku on September 17, 2009, 03:24:27 PM
Well, it just sounds silly if you ask me.
I mean, if two sages have to pray power into the master sword, then why would it need its own entity?
Also, it's the one everyone is predicting, and it would make the game far less surprising =P
The master sword doesn't need a spirit inside of it, and it's never been mention ANYWHERE at ANY TIME.
Bottom line, I don't like it. :P
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on September 17, 2009, 03:37:57 PM
Fair enough, fair enough. :P

Yeah, it probably would suck if it were that predictable... Twilight Princess kind of disappointed me in that respect since Midna turned out to be the titular Twilight Princess, and given all the info and time we had prior to the game's release, I could see it almost a mile away. T.T

For now, I guess my verdict is that the less info they give us prior to the release, the better. Good call, ZV.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: ZeldaFreak on October 15, 2009, 03:51:47 PM
When I first saw the girl I thought she was a Zora. I don't know why, maybe its because she's that silvery blue color. ;)
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on October 15, 2009, 06:57:40 PM
Her clothes probably help that along a bit, don't they?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on September 30, 2010, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: Vaati on August 08, 2009, 08:32:29 AM
For those of you who have seen the poster for the new Wii Zelda, wouldn't you agree that the girl looks a lot like the fairy queen from Wind Waker?
(http://purenintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/1245051732275.jpg)
That's one theory that came up and, also, someone on DeviantART pointed out that she may be the reincarnation of the master sword (because, as you know, Link doesn't have a sword according to the poster)

Thoughts?

Update time! Nintendo actually confirmed that the girl is the Master Sword. Something about her popping up and Link using her when battling...?
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on October 01, 2010, 09:52:37 PM
Wasn't that confirmed for a while now? XD

More recently, Eiji Aonuma said that he doesn't consider Steve to be female, per se. (Out of respect, I'll still refer to Steve as female.) I just hope that they'll give her some interesting backstory. ...Not that I should be worried, since that's been happening quite a lot in Zelda games lately, and that's a good thing. Here's hoping they don't blow off all the juicy bits at the beginning.

...Still, there are gonna be shippers regardless, so it should be an interesting outcome... XD
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Keaton on October 03, 2010, 11:32:48 AM
I guess people loved Midna so much that they introduced another mechanic just like her.  Makes sense from a sales standpoint.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on October 03, 2010, 03:06:08 PM
Quote from: Zaraki Kenpachi on October 03, 2010, 11:32:48 AM
I guess people loved Midna so much that they introduced another mechanic just like her.  Makes sense from a sales standpoint.

But wasn't Midna just another navi/tatl?

So technically don't they love the Navi/Tatl mechanic?

Although Navi and Tatl wen't really heavily related to the story.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Keaton on October 04, 2010, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: Setsumi Sakura on October 03, 2010, 03:06:08 PM
Quote from: Zaraki Kenpachi on October 03, 2010, 11:32:48 AM
I guess people loved Midna so much that they introduced another mechanic just like her.  Makes sense from a sales standpoint.

But wasn't Midna just another navi/tatl?

So technically don't they love the Navi/Tatl mechanic?

Although Navi and Tatl wen't really heavily related to the story.

Tatl was vaguely related to the story, and I suppose Navi was as well, but only slightly.

And Midna helped a lot more than Navi and Tatl.  She gave you access to several areas, had a few abilities that could be used (i.e. the Twilight circle and lock-on jump abilities when you're Wolf Link), and she was just plain fun.

Midna was more of a character than a mechanic and she felt a lot more important.  I'm sure this Master Sword chick will be the same way.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on October 05, 2010, 05:05:49 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on October 01, 2010, 09:52:37 PM
Wasn't that confirmed for a while now? XD

Yes, I know. But I've been absent from here for so long, I never posted and nobody else really mentioned it.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: MagmarFire on October 23, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
True...

I guess another question would be why Link is in a protective stance in the picture. (NO SPOILERS, PLZ, GUISE.)
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: The Glamour Nazi on October 23, 2010, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on October 23, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
True...

I guess another question would be why Link is in a protective stance in the picture. (NO SPOILERS, PLZ, GUISE.)
Maybe it's just to give him a tough, eye-catching stance. May have nothing to do with the story.
Title: Re: That Mysterious Girl...
Post by: Vaati on November 02, 2010, 05:24:33 PM
I noticed that Link and Adelle seem to be standing more back-to-back as if working together. A lot like the Four Swords official art where the Links are in the cross-position.