Any comments on this?
Notice how he claims there are no flaws to his theory...
The video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2g65jL3HDg&feature=response_watch
I think the position of ALttP is wrong. Remember how WW begins? It tells the legend of The Hero of Time. The one who went through time to slay the evil Ganon. Don't you think if ALttP was in between OoT and WW, it would be mentioned in that video, as he was defeated once, rose, was defeated again (According to Ocarinahero10) and rose once more, this time, no one was able to stop him.
I'd like to let you know that I don't theorize myself, I only criticize other theories.
Anyways, here's the "second part" of the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5FozOuwQjI
His take on the timeline is certainly interesting, and it does hold some water. However, yes, there are some items of question, one of which is what you said.
He also seems to assume that the Master Sword ("supposedly" called the Picori Blade in TMC) was given to man by the Minish, even though I think word of God says that it was forged by the ancient sages. It's a long shot to assume that they are one and the same.
I still prefer Jack's timeline myself, but his is, again, interesting.
His theory was interesting! Well thought out as well.
That timeline makes no sense at all. That and he thinks that his theory is the correct one(I hate it when theorists on youtube think this) when we don't know what the timeline is. >:(
Quote from: MagmarFire on August 10, 2009, 05:39:11 PM
His take on the timeline is certainly interesting, and it does hold some water. However, yes, there are some items of question, one of which is what you said.
He also seems to assume that the Master Sword ("supposedly" called the Picori Blade in TMC) was given to man by the Minish, even though I think word of God says that it was forged by the ancient sages. It's a long shot to assume that they are one and the same.
I still prefer Jack's timeline myself, but his is, again, interesting.
It's possible that the Minish were considered Sages.
Beings that could only be seen by children to be revered as Sages? Eh, I wouldn't call it as such, but it could be possible. They seem too low-profile to fit the definition, though; after all, it seems they prefer to do a lot of their work without humans knowing about it.
The second video made me laugh. I have always expected that Nintendo is just throwing games out there with no particular time line. But I guess that isn't to say there isn't a time line; maybe there is one and they just want to cover it up for some reason.
I'm pretty sure that both Miyamoto and Aonuma have said that there's a confidential document that holds the timeline--and seriously, why would Aonuma confirm a split timeline if there wasn't any particular timeline to begin with? Nintendo of America's clearly just trying to lead us astray by saying otherwise.
Some games obviously interplay, both because of in-game references and official statements by the creators:
- The Legend of Zelda & The Adventures of Link
- Ocarina of Time & Majora's Mask
- The Oracle games
- The Wind Waker & Phantom Hourglass
- Four Swords & Four Swords Adventures
and we also know that:
- Ocarina of Time --> Majora's Mask --> The Legend of Zelda --> The Adventures of Link --> Link to the Past, with Link's Awakening somewhere floating around.
- Ocarina of Time (Child Timeline) --> Majora's Mask --> Twilight Princess / Ocarina of Time (Adult Timeline) --> The Wind Waker --> Phantom's Hourglass
but otherwise, we're left in the blue. It's been strongly theorized but never really made official that Link's Awakening has the same Link as Link to the Past. Additionally, the existence of the Oracle in Minish Cap suggests, but doesn't confirm, that the Four Swords games and The Oracle series are connected. Finally, since Majora's Mask is in the Child Timeline, it's most likely that so are the first four Zelda games.
Besides, aren't the games more important than a story tying them all together, anyway?
Wow owow! Slow down there...
Quote from: Whocares on August 28, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
and we also know that:
- Ocarina of Time --> Majora's Mask --> The Legend of Zelda --> The Adventures of Link --> Link to the Past, with Link's Awakening somewhere floating around.
You're saying that as if it's a fact... Enlighten me, please o.o
Oh, that's the Miyamoto Timeline, which was established eleven years ago. I wouldn't count that if I were you, especially since it doesn't mention a split.
Nintendo/the Zelda team, as far as I know, have yet to disown the timeline or disprove it, so it still stands. Besides, perhaps they managed to find a way to make both timelines plausible.
I'm confused. You mean if the Miyamoto Timeline is true or that a timeline exists at all?
The Miyamoto timeline.
Oh, all right. Thank you. :D
Yeah, I guess you have a point there. What makes me wonder, however, is the question as to how two timelines can be acceptable... Would the "alternate universes" theory be plausible in this case?
If the developers managed to make it possible for all five original games to exist in only of the two timelines, then yes, it is plausible. Though this seems difficult, since Link to the Past has a backstory that strongly suggests Ocarina of Time's Adult Timeline. The Legend of Zelda, The Adventure of Link, and Link's Awakening can go anywhere, really, since other Zelda games don't make references to the three.
My theory about the timeline is that they started to worry about timeline somewhere between ALttP and LA, where games started to have some backstory to them. For me, this means that the first two games could really be connected to any other by any means.
Still, I do disagree with some important points in this timeline, the most important being that WW and ALttP don't fit the same timeline.
As always, we'll be hoping that the next game can shed some light on the timeline, and as usual, it will only make things more complicated.
PS: If the next Wii Zelda is about the creation of the Master Sword, wouldn't it place it before OoT? Yeah, let that sink in for a while.
PPS: What still intrigues me is that the Sacred Realm depicted in ALttP and the Twilight Realm both seem to follow the "floating masses of land in a semidark space" scheme. What if?
QuotePS: If the next Wii Zelda is about the creation of the Master Sword, wouldn't it place it before OoT? Yeah, let that sink in for a while.
Could also be that the spirit is seperated from the sword/the sword is destroyed or any other of numerous possibilities, so we'll have to wait and see on that one.