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Zelda Games => Gamecube & Wii Zelda => Topic started by: Gamefreak on April 23, 2006, 03:14:25 PM

Title: I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 23, 2006, 03:14:25 PM
Do you think there's some kind of connection between the Dark world (from LttP) and the Twilight Realm?  I'm only saying this because of people's changes in the Twilight Realm.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on April 25, 2006, 04:46:20 AM
There should be some connection between the two. For me, though, I would say that they were parallel realms, for that they have many similarities. However, I think that as you progress through the game, the Twilight Realm's radius decreases, unlike the Dark World.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 25, 2006, 06:19:37 AM
I was thinking along the lines of something like that.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Evilslayer on April 27, 2006, 03:43:09 AM
It's been stated that the Twilight Realm isn't the Dark World, but that may not mean that it's not related to it. I have a theory that it actually comes from the Dark World. It may be a new kind of magic that Ganon is brewing.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on April 27, 2006, 05:15:16 PM
It might also be a monster manifestation, but I doubt it.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 27, 2006, 06:15:38 PM
has this been brought up before or am I the first person to notice?
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Davros on April 29, 2006, 02:05:10 AM
I've brought it up before but not in my own topic... You're the first to start a strand on it.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 29, 2006, 11:14:46 AM
I see, could this idea prove any plot details in the game?
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Hi no Seijin on April 29, 2006, 11:25:03 AM
I don't know what happened, but my computer just logged me out.  I was saying that Twilight Princess (hereforth TP) may be a prequel to The Minish Cap (hereforth TMC [excuse the laziness]).  TMC back story mentions that darkness once covered Hyrule.  Isn't the Twilight Realm darkness?  A picture in TMC back story shows a hero that looks similar to Link.  Another picture shows a Moblin, which I think could be Ganon, seeing as how he is the main threat to Hyrule.  If this is true, then in TP, Ganon could be coming out of the Dark World and part of the Dark World is pouring out as the Twilight Realm.

Umm, Ganon is the final boss to TP, right?  Do we know that?
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 29, 2006, 11:32:23 AM
I doubt it, the moblin is just one of the most common enemies in Zelda games and threw it in there to show an enemy that everybody remembered.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on April 29, 2006, 11:59:15 AM
Everyone must remember Octorocks; they've appeared in every single Zelda game to date.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Hi no Seijin on April 29, 2006, 12:15:46 PM
So, you're saying that the Moblin in the back story of TMC could be Ganon?  And Ganon does look a little bit like a huge Moblin.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on April 29, 2006, 12:35:25 PM
And, a Moblin looks like a pig, so, by using a bit of transitive logic, Ganon looks like a pig; therefore, it is conceivable that that Moblin is Ganon.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on April 30, 2006, 06:08:17 PM
Yeah, but it's still pretty doubtful whether that Moblin is Ganon.  
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 01, 2006, 02:50:32 PM
Well, who else would it be? ???
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: The Postman on May 01, 2006, 03:47:56 PM
The balarge  ???
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 01, 2006, 06:15:27 PM
The what? ???
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 01, 2006, 06:22:14 PM
I don't know who it could be.  Maybe it is a really big Moblin?
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Evilslayer on May 02, 2006, 05:51:21 AM
QuoteAnd, a Moblin looks like a pig, so, by using a bit of transitive logic, Ganon looks like a pig; therefore, it is conceivable that that Moblin is Ganon.

Actually, Moblins were never shown as pigs until TWW. Before that they were dogs. It may be because Ganon's daemonic form is a pig that they changed them, though.

Unless the Picori Blade is a Master Sword look-alike with a purple hilt I slightly doubt that TP is the BS of TMC, though.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 02, 2006, 12:26:43 PM
Yeah, now that I remember.  In the Oracle series, the moblins are pigs.  And I believe they are in the classics.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 02, 2006, 06:46:59 PM
Well, according to the Compendium, TWW takes place before LoZ. Although I still believe that there's transitivity in that connection, there may be a mystery to the "dog-pig" thing.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 03, 2006, 05:26:58 PM
I think the dog thing might have been a complication due to the amount of power the earlier systems had.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 03, 2006, 06:13:52 PM
It could've been intentional, though. Remember that there have been other things in Zelda (I think) that have changed as the series continued.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Evilslayer on May 04, 2006, 03:53:34 AM
QuoteYeah, now that I remember.  In the Oracle series, the moblins are pigs.  And I believe they are in the classics.

Those pigs in the Oracles are Pig Warriors.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 04, 2006, 02:16:18 PM
Nice to know that I caused qutie a bit of a stir.  And if memory serves correctly, the Moblins in ALttP looked like pigs.  At least, they do on the remake.  I want to get a Super Nintendo and ALttP to make comparisions and get a feel for the older version.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 06, 2006, 06:10:13 PM
The only difference is the controller really.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 07, 2006, 08:45:48 AM
Quote from: Gamefreak on May 06, 2006, 06:10:13 PM
The only difference is the controller really.

As well as the same noises that Link makes in OoT aren't there.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 07, 2006, 01:49:18 PM
Well, I remember playing Lttp at the age of 5 and being scared of the guards in front of my castle.  lol.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: MagmarFire on May 07, 2006, 08:34:01 PM
Well, I used to, if not still, afraid of ReDeads and Gibdoes. I don't think that you're alone.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Evilslayer on May 08, 2006, 01:48:27 AM
QuoteNice to know that I caused qutie a bit of a stir.  And if memory serves correctly, the Moblins in ALttP looked like pigs.  At least, they do on the remake.  I want to get a Super Nintendo and ALttP to make comparisions and get a feel for the older version.

I don't think the Pig Warriors in ALttP are Moblins...
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 08, 2006, 01:26:30 PM
I think that they are just soldiers created in the image of Ganon because Ganon think's he's cool.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Evilslayer on May 09, 2006, 02:03:58 AM
Well, then they'd be blue. :P In that game, at least.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Gamefreak on May 09, 2006, 01:17:16 PM
Well Ganon didn't want exact clones.  Then Ganon would get bored eventually.
Title: Re:I might be being naive but....
Post by: Lokes on May 17, 2006, 05:59:27 AM
yeah, and It would remind him too much about the Smurfs... which really isn't that nice....

Even Ganon would be afraid then, and the smurfy evil creatures would rule the galaxy!  :o