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Zelda Games => Gamecube & Wii Zelda => Topic started by: The Postman on May 01, 2006, 04:44:36 PM

Title: Dose anyone have any idea if ganon is gonna be on it
Post by: The Postman on May 01, 2006, 04:44:36 PM
so ???
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Post by: MagmarFire on May 01, 2006, 06:14:33 PM
I completely think so.
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Post by: iastreb on May 07, 2006, 10:08:25 AM
maybe
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 07, 2006, 04:36:22 PM
Most likely.  I count on it.  I want to see the new Ganon.  My question is, will he still have control of Ganondorf's body?  At the end of OoT, we see Ganondorf spiraling off into the distance.
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Post by: Evilslayer on May 08, 2006, 01:52:42 AM
I'm of the belief that that Moblin-guy in the gameplay footage is Ganon. For starters, the Gonon Theme plays when he appears for the first time. And he do also look suspiciously much like Phantom Ganon in TWW.

And it's been stated that they are planning more for Ganon than you can ever, ever, ever expect. The Moblin-guy seems to play a major role.
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Post by: iastreb on May 14, 2006, 07:14:44 AM
i dont think so... it was just some kind of mini boss, who you defite in the Horse battle,and if it is Ganon, ill eat my socks. i have a theory, that i saw a pic with Link holding the Master Sword, and that sword was created to destroy Ganon
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Post by: MagmarFire on May 14, 2006, 09:51:03 AM
...and any kind of evil that purges Hyrule.
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Post by: Evilslayer on May 15, 2006, 04:48:14 AM
Quotei dont think so... it was just some kind of mini boss, who you defite in the Horse battle,and if it is Ganon, ill eat my socks. i have a theory, that i saw a pic with Link holding the Master Sword, and that sword was created to destroy Ganon

It can't destroy Ganon. Only the Silver Arrows can. ;) As for the Moblin guy, he's not just a mini-boss. In fact, he has a rather important role it seems.

Ever seen the fourth trailer? The scene in the beginning isn't the only time he attacks Toaru. And he's not 'killed' before halfway through the game, and he still has Colin.

As for him being killed, if he's Ganon that fall isn't enough to kill him. Remember TWW? He was toasted alive, but returned.
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Post by: iastreb on May 15, 2006, 12:34:58 PM
i was talking about OoT and TWW, before the great rain, before TP
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 15, 2006, 01:46:28 PM
To go with what MagmarFire said, so far the only time we've seen the Master Sword is in games where Ganon is the final boss.  As for Evilslayer, you mention Ganon falling.  What fall is this?
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Post by: iastreb on May 16, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
in TWW he was burried in the sea, and at the end of OoT, hes locked in the sacred realm :-\
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748589/img_3583069.html
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 16, 2006, 01:37:30 PM
True.  But he finds ways to come back and haunt us.  My question is how?  Who wants him back?  Who are you?  Who who, who who?  Ahem.  Sorry.  CSI fan.  Who wants Ganon back?
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Post by: Lokes on May 16, 2006, 03:06:38 PM
I've heard rumours that Ganondorf will return, and in an interview they said they had planned more than we could ever, ever expect. And Concept art reveals the comeback of the legendary MASTERSWORD! And if we look at the story of the games, we already know that the mastersword, link and ganondorf walks hand in hand.... always.
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Post by: iastreb on May 17, 2006, 12:45:49 AM
told ya
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Post by: Lokes on May 17, 2006, 05:53:45 AM
iastreb - I like you more already!


I like everyone who thinks Ganondorf and the master sword will return... I like the others as well, but theese guys make me happy!

HAPPYDANCE!
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Post by: iastreb on May 17, 2006, 09:53:28 AM
thanks, but im talking for the game, and some things dont change... never, i think there is a connection in all games in 3D, for example: OoT Hero of Time is the same in MM, WW Link is the same Link in PH, and Twilight Princess Link is releated with Link in WW, who defite the same evil guy from OoT, see?
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Post by: Lokes on May 17, 2006, 01:56:37 PM
If you read the timeline theories on this site... you find that there is a possible connection between ALL of th games!

As for Nintendo, they've already said that there is a Timeline... Lots of times.
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 17, 2006, 02:08:48 PM
It is said that Shigero Miyamoto reported having the official timeline hidden away.  I want him to reveal it already!  Cut the suspense!
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Post by: iastreb on May 17, 2006, 11:20:01 PM
i want to now whats the conneection betwen the Mario games, but lets return to topic.

As for Zelda, maybe the strongest connection is that thy all live in the same world 8)
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Post by: Lokes on May 18, 2006, 07:07:44 AM
no, there is definately a connection, and a Timeline will be revealed as we all know there is one!

Apart from those two connections, we got Link and Zelda's bloodlines. Ganondorf, who continues to return.... and the master sword.
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Post by: Evilslayer on May 19, 2006, 02:10:46 AM
I don't think Nintendo is ever going to reveal the whole timeline. That would be a bad move. The timeline is the biggest debate in the Zelda community.

Quotethanks, but im talking for the game, and some things dont change... never, i think there is a connection in all games in 3D, for example: OoT Hero of Time is the same in MM, WW Link is the same Link in PH, and Twilight Princess Link is releated with Link in WW, who defite the same evil guy from OoT, see?

There is a connection between more games than that. OoT resembles the Sealing War (the Japanese version) mentioned in ALttP, and ALttP is connected to AoL because of AoL's back story.

That's because in ALttP Link gets the whole Triforce, and in the AoL BS a King rules Hyrule using the powers of the combined Triforce.

However, one could argue that the AoL BS contradicts the game itself...
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 19, 2006, 05:14:34 AM
Nintendo revealing the whole timeline will be a bad move, and my whining about it is getting old.  I'll stop now.  Where's the smilie that shows shame?

How does the back story of AoL contradict the whole game?
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Post by: Lokes on May 19, 2006, 08:36:31 AM
Still, at some time, the timeline will be revealed. And I will one day know it!  8)
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Post by: iastreb on May 21, 2006, 12:24:31 PM
still, i think theres way to much strange things in Zelda timeline, more things will be sure when some new games come out( not TP and Ph)
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Post by: Mysterious F. on May 21, 2006, 01:06:05 PM
I'd prefer having a brand new bad guy, instead of boring, extremely old Ganon.
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 21, 2006, 01:53:00 PM
Ganon's not all that boring if he uses different attacks in every game he's in.
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Post by: Lokes on May 21, 2006, 03:45:04 PM
I hope the young ganon returns! He was so awesome, i started lauging when I saw how fat he had grown on WW.
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Post by: Evilslayer on May 23, 2006, 05:08:22 AM
QuoteHow does the back story of AoL contradict the whole game?

Well, I'd go awefully off topic by explaining it all. So, I'll just say that Link and Zelda in that game already knows each others.
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Post by: c0j1r0 on May 23, 2006, 05:19:50 PM
It has been reported that Ganon will return.  However, he will not have as a big a a part.  At least that's what I've been told.
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Post by: Evilslayer on May 24, 2006, 01:04:46 AM
Actually, they've stated quite the opposite, that they're planning more than you could ever, ever, ever possibly expect. :P
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Post by: Hi no Seijin on May 24, 2006, 05:25:18 AM
No offense, but I'll take the Cohort's word over the Hireling's word.  And if Nintendo is going to keep on taunting us with statements like the ones Evilslayer are repeating, they better hurry up and release TP soon.
Title: Re:Dose anyone have any idea if ganon is gonna be on it
Post by: iastreb on May 29, 2006, 12:30:24 AM
i want TP >:(
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Post by: MagmarFire on May 30, 2006, 03:45:56 PM
I do to, iastreb, 'cuz if they don't, I'm going to start a nuclear war! >:(
OPEN FIRE!!

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Well, anyway, Ganon's probably gonna be in it; it'd bring back some old-school glory, as well as new experiences.
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Post by: The Postman on May 30, 2006, 04:59:45 PM
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I had proof that ganon was on it but i cant remember where it was
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Post by: iastreb on May 31, 2006, 12:22:22 AM
hey! if the master sword is in it, you can be sure that Ganons going to be in ::)
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Post by: The Postman on May 31, 2006, 09:47:37 AM
YEP WICH PROVES VAATI ISN'T GOING TO BE ON IT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..........AND HA ;D
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Post by: iastreb on June 01, 2006, 09:03:24 AM
in most of the 3D games(exept Majora's mask) Ganondorf is the bad guy :(
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Post by: alical on June 01, 2006, 09:55:11 AM
I want Ganon back! Cos even tho to defeat him u need the light arrows etc to beat him the master sword always finishes him off! ;D
I hope he has lost some weight though I was shocked when he was in TWW I mean what was in that realm a lifetime supply of pies! ???
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Post by: alex on June 02, 2006, 01:18:50 PM
Of course he is!!! you cant have a zelda game without the triforce!!! and you cant have the triforce without ganon!!! my question is what kind of condition will he be in? ;)
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Post by: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 12:42:07 AM
dont ask me, i dont now, ask MagmarFire, he nows everything ;D
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Post by: MagmarFire on June 05, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 12:42:07 AM
...ask MagmarFire, he nows everything ;D

Hahaha! Thanks, iastreb! ;D

But, yeah, Ganondorf is going to be in it. Aonuma has revealed that he will be returning.

Quoteyou cant have a zelda game without the triforce

Not, true, alex. In The Minish Cap, the Triforce was never mentioned.
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Post by: The Postman on June 05, 2006, 09:59:07 AM
YESSSSS I WIN!!!! ;D VAATI OWES ME 200002 Rupees
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Post by: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on June 05, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 12:42:07 AM
...ask MagmarFire, he nows everything ;D

Hahaha! Thanks, iastreb! ;D

But, yeah, Ganondorf is going to be in it. Aonuma has revealed that he will be returning.

Quoteyou cant have a zelda game without the triforce

Not, true, alex. In The Minish Cap, the Triforce was never mentioned.
yep, and the triforce was the LIGHT POWER, which is not the Triforce at all
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Post by: MagmarFire on June 05, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
You are correct, iastreb! ;D
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Post by: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 10:26:03 AM
like my new avatar? ;D
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Post by: The Postman on June 05, 2006, 10:29:27 AM
Yep
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Post by: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 10:36:20 AM
thanks :D
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Post by: alex on June 05, 2006, 10:54:13 AM
ok ok  i stand corrected

but you still cant have the triforce without gannon
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Post by: iastreb on June 05, 2006, 12:42:16 PM
if Twilight Princess is after OoT, Ganondorf have not lost his Triforce, and if TP is before WW, he is still with his triforce ;D
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Post by: Inferno on June 11, 2006, 03:39:38 AM
It has been confirmed that Ganondorf will return, but not in a way that we would expect.
I'm guessing because he is presumably still trapt in the dark realm we will only be able to see him there.
I think it has also been confirmed that Ganondorf will not be the main villan of the story.
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Post by: iastreb on June 12, 2006, 12:16:51 AM
where did you find this info? :-\
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Post by: alex on June 12, 2006, 02:21:15 PM
what if ganon is midna!!! ahhhhhhh!!!
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Post by: alical on June 13, 2006, 10:16:44 AM
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!
But I doubt it cos Midna helps you :D
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Post by: iastreb on June 13, 2006, 10:18:56 AM
 :-* yea... se dont have the triforce...
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Post by: Evilslayer on June 21, 2006, 10:02:51 AM
Yes, she helps you. Just like Sauron helped the Elves to forge the Rings. :-* But jokes aside, I doubt she's Ganon. I have a different theory of who Ganon is.
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Post by: newbkyng on June 22, 2006, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: x*TwilightZelda*x on June 13, 2006, 10:16:44 AM
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!
But I doubt it cos Midna helps you :D
unless it's a trap... Think, Ganon tricked Link into opening the Door in OoT, maybe Ganon will use Midna to get Link to unlock wherever he is trapped in.
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Post by: iastreb on June 23, 2006, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: Evilslayer on June 21, 2006, 10:02:51 AM
Yes, she helps you. Just like Sauron helped the Elves to forge the Rings. :-* But jokes aside, I doubt she's Ganon. I have a different theory of who Ganon is.
aham... Maybe the King of Evil? tell my please!
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Post by: ReFried ReDead on June 23, 2006, 09:16:54 PM
Obviously ganon isnt stopped by death or by being sealed because he's come back from both more than once, so its entirely possible that the fact that he was turned to stone dosent stop him from coming back.

Also a question I have is if you notice that the master sword is stuck in Ganon's head at the end of TWW, so does that act as a seal until Link removes it?
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Post by: iastreb on June 24, 2006, 02:01:59 AM
i dunno ;D
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Post by: newbkyng on June 24, 2006, 09:45:13 PM
does anyone like my theory??
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Post by: MagmarFire on June 25, 2006, 03:29:00 PM
It's certainly feasible. It certainly would be unexpected, since Ganondorf is usually one for the direct approach.
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Post by: newbkyng on June 26, 2006, 08:17:52 AM
big words burn my brain  8)

jj, well, you try a direct approach stuck in the Sacred Realm.
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Post by: ReFried ReDead on July 05, 2006, 09:48:53 PM
Personally I don't think Ganon tricked link but knew he was gathering the gems, and waited till the gate was opened.
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Post by: newbkyng on July 07, 2006, 09:44:05 PM
In OoT?? Yeah, but that was still a trick.
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Post by: ChaosEmerl on July 08, 2006, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: iastreb on June 01, 2006, 09:03:24 AM
in most of the 3D games(exept Majora's mask) Ganondorf is the bad guy :(
So...  You're saying Ganondorf was the bad guy in 2 games.  =P

In pretty much all of the zelda games except for FS, MC, and MM, Ganon is the bad guy.

Since this is the story of how Ganon caused the flood, I'd expect him to be in it.
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Post by: alical on July 09, 2006, 01:14:06 PM
Quote
Since this is the story of how Ganon caused the flood, I'd expect him to be in it.
I didn't know that, are you sure?
People said it wouldn't be good to have the flood :-[
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Post by: manig_monkey on August 05, 2006, 12:51:19 AM
 ;D I think ganon's in it. Because i think it was confirmed in an interview... supposably he'll be incedible.
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Post by: Evilslayer on August 08, 2006, 05:52:51 AM
QuoteSo...  You're saying Ganondorf was the bad guy in 2 games.  =P

In pretty much all of the zelda games except for FS, MC, and MM, Ganon is the bad guy.

Since this is the story of how Ganon caused the flood, I'd expect him to be in it.

1. Ganondorf has only been the bad guy in two games. He was Ganon in the others. :-*

2. You forgot LA.

3. We don't know that. My theory is that it's the Imprisonning War. In the Japanese version of ALttP it's said that Ganon's malice attacked the castle. If Ganon controls the Twilight Realm that fits very well with the true legend. After all, the Twilight Realm does indeed attack the castle.