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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mysterious F. on May 19, 2006, 06:53:05 PM

Title: World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 19, 2006, 06:53:05 PM
This topic is outside the Chatboard so it doesn't get out of control with spam. Anyway, talk about World War II here. You can also talk about what caused the war, what happened before the war that is related to the war, and what the war caused/did to the world.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on May 20, 2006, 01:52:23 AM
Montgomery and Rommel !
Good old desert warfare
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 20, 2006, 05:42:03 AM
Yes, desert warfare is nice. There is no place to hide, victory goes back and forth between sides, and there is no need to switch to winter clothes, unlike the Russian front.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on May 20, 2006, 05:49:17 AM
ah yes, light clothing and a rifle
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 20, 2006, 05:53:29 AM
I feel sorry for those who freezed to death in the Russian Front. Yet some of them deserved it (aka Nazis).
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 20, 2006, 07:34:11 AM
Ah, the leadership of Winston Churchill should not be forgot.  He took on Hitler head on, unlike Wilt Chamberlain who just appeased Hitler and let him have Europe.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on May 20, 2006, 11:46:52 AM
Quote"We will never surrender..."

... we will kill all the n00bs and spambots that attack TDC!
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 20, 2006, 12:29:14 PM
What did I tell you about not spamming on this topic!?!? Yes, Winston Churchill was better than Chamberlain. Chamberlain, the Munich Pact, and that stupid umbrella of Chamberlain's are symbols of appeasment. Let World War II remind people what that can do.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 20, 2006, 01:07:52 PM
Yes.  He rose to the challenge and helped stop one of history's greatest dictators.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 20, 2006, 01:11:59 PM
Don't you mean worst? That sounded like you like him! Now to the invasions before the war. Lets talk about that.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 21, 2006, 09:37:32 AM
You're taking my words out of context.  I meant "great" as in powerful.  Not "great" as in "the Wii is great"
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 21, 2006, 09:43:58 AM
Oh. Sorry I misunderstood!
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilslayer on May 23, 2006, 08:34:22 AM
Although I mostly prefer ancient history I'm very interested in WWII, and also a little bit in WWI. War is a horrible thing, yes, but if there's one war in the 20th century that can be justified it's WWII. WWI was a meaningless war, a waste of men. In WWII, however, the people had a reason to fight. They didn't fight for greedy leaders, like in WWI, but for their freedom.

By the way, have anyone here read a series of books called Darkness by Harry Turtledove? The reason I bring that up is that they are allegories based on WWII, but in a world where magic rules. The people in those books doesn't have air planes or tanks, but dragons and behemoths.

The story is that after the Six Years War (WWI) Algarve (Germany) lost several of their territories to the victors. One of them is a duchy called Bari (one of two Zelda cameos :P). The duch of Bari, however, dies about a generation later, with no heir to replace him. Therefore, King Mezentio (Hitler, who else? ;)), the ruling monarch of Algarve, reclaims Bari.

Seeing that, the other kingdoms are not so happy and declare war on Algarve. It goes well... for a while. The first that falls is Forthweg (Polen). Sibiu (Austria) falls in a day. Valmiera (France) and Jelgava (also France, I suppose) falls in close succession.

I'm not going to spoil too much of the story to those who might want to read it, but it eventually ends up with Lagoas (Britain), Kuusamo (USA, though the people looks kinda Japanese^_^) and Unkerlant (Soviet Union) against Algarve, Yanina (Italy), Gyongyos (Japan) and Zuwayza (?).

The books have their own little twists, but several of the happenings and battles can be recognised. Like the battle of Sulingen, which is clearly based on the battle of Stalingrad. Another is the battles of the Land of the Ice People, which is based on the desert wars. Then there's the nukes. Who knew magic could be that powerful?^_^

I mentioned earlier that there are two Zelda cameos (although I believe it's just coincidental). The other is that one of the view point characters has a sister called Saria. ;D
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 23, 2006, 01:27:15 PM
It's ok.  It's a very easy thing to have a misconcept on.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 26, 2006, 06:31:12 PM
Personnally, WWI was important, for almost all causes of WWII and the invasions before it were caused by WWI. The only real exception is the Ethiopian Campaign (1935-1936), when Italy invaded Ethiopia as revenge for the Italian loss to Ethiopia in the 1890s.  Oh, and also, the other Axis coutries (besides Germany, Italy, and Japan) were Manchukuo, Nanking, French Indochina, Thailand, Bulgaria, Albania, Vichy France, Croatia, Rumania, Hungary, Finland, Slovakia, and neutral Spain. It could be one of them, but probably Thailand.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 28, 2006, 05:53:55 PM
War is a terrible thing, especially when it is necessary, even though it very seldomly is.

But, man, if it weren't for WWI, Daylight Savings probably wouldn't exist! That's ONE scar from the wars...
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 28, 2006, 06:47:58 PM
To quote the Simpsons:  "There is no such thing as a good war, with the exceptions of: The American Revolution, World War II, and the Star Wars Trilogy."
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 28, 2006, 08:07:30 PM
Only truly needed wars should be fought. Like how we should fight the terrorists, N. Koreans, and Chinese communists.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 29, 2006, 12:00:30 AM
At church, I thought I saw Hitler, I was about to scream ''O MY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THIS MAN FOR KILLING THE JEWS!''
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 29, 2006, 06:43:05 AM
Well, just remember this, Howl: Hitler killed himself about, say, 60+ years ago. Have no fear. ;)
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Mysterious F. on May 29, 2006, 09:51:04 AM
Rumors say he didn't kill himself, we never found his body.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 29, 2006, 12:21:22 PM
Quote from: MagmarFire on May 29, 2006, 06:43:05 AM
Well, just remember this, Howl: Hitler killed himself about, say, 60+ years ago. Have no fear. ;)
YEEEEYYYYYYY *jumps up and down*
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 29, 2006, 01:54:54 PM
Well, that encyclopedia I read was obsolete, so that information may be erroneous.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 29, 2006, 02:08:57 PM
yeah there's that too
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 29, 2006, 02:15:05 PM
But, really, though. That encyclopedia set was, like, thirty years old.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 30, 2006, 10:39:17 AM
There's a substitute teacher at my school who looks like Josef Stalin.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on May 30, 2006, 10:42:00 AM
what about lenin? and his pimp hat?
(http://uncyclopedia.org/images/c/c3/Lenin-pimphat2.jpg)
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 30, 2006, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: MagmarFire on May 29, 2006, 02:15:05 PM
But, really, though. That encyclopedia set was, like, thirty years old.
Hitler will kill us all AAAAHHHH
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 30, 2006, 03:07:14 PM
All because the encyclopedia was obsolete doesn't mean that Hitler isn't dead. ;)
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 30, 2006, 06:19:05 PM
*shrugs* owell
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 31, 2006, 10:12:05 AM
Hitler took the Walt Disney approach and froze himself.  To awake in the future, he will be hit by some kind of future device and it will kill him.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 31, 2006, 10:50:44 AM
Hopefully, he would suffer intolerable brain damage before he thawed (effects of suspended animation and all...).
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Jack on May 31, 2006, 01:20:51 PM
Like Zombie Lenin.

"Must... crush... ca-pee-tal-eezim... erg... arg..."
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: MagmarFire on May 31, 2006, 02:48:58 PM
Hehehe! Nice one, Jack! :)
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on May 31, 2006, 05:39:21 PM
Oh yeah Jack, you're quoting The Simpsons Right.

Anyway more Family Guy Jokes.

Peter (In Cuba): Wow you people are nothing like the communists on T.V.

Screen goes to an old sitcom:  We now return to The Communists.

Father: I heard report cards came out today.  What were your "Marx"?

Kid: Um....

Mom: Quit "Stalin" and tell us.

Kid: Do I "Kruschev"?

Kruschev (walks in the door): Did somebody say Kruschev?

Everybody starts dancing.  Kruschev breakdances.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on May 31, 2006, 08:05:21 PM
ookkkkkkk, get back on topic
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on June 01, 2006, 07:29:12 AM
Sorry, I just had to crack that one out.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on June 01, 2006, 01:41:32 PM
just like my pointless "all your base" things.
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Howl on June 01, 2006, 04:40:32 PM
yeah just like that
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Gamefreak on June 02, 2006, 11:41:39 AM
Back to World War II, Russia really wasn't there to actually "help" us were they.  They were just hoping to get a cut of the reward right?
Title: Re:World War II
Post by: Evilbob on June 02, 2006, 01:12:14 PM
the thoughts of russian people:
Stalin: Mmmmm..... poland!
Average soldier: Shoot germans? hell yeah!