Chalk up another one for Pixar

[Darth Wyndisis]

I'm going to jump in and say that if we can have perfectly calm political debates, why can't we ever have a movie topic with the same leisure?

Strange... I was thinking the same thing.

[Pyrgusfinn]

children take movies much more literally and realistically.

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Umm, as far as I know, adults watch the more realistic movies. Seriously, kids are all up in the fairy tales and such. And seriously, have you studied child psychology? Because I know I watch violent movies as a child and I'm not a violent person. With all the kids who have seen violent movies, a suggestion like yours would mean we had a teenybopper mafia running around or something.

No no, you misunderstood. I'm sure little kids would not bring guns to school and shoot every day, but I had used that as an example. Remember when another member had told us that a child, imitating a technique from Naruto, got buried in sand and died? Well, you see, he took it literally, so what's stopping other children from taking such literally and dying? There have been many instances when a child has taken something meant to be a light, impossible fantasy as reality and got harmed or harmed someone else in the process, and that isn't exactly something that we want happening, now do we?

No disrespect intended, but there will always be people who die because they do stupid things.  I mean, I'm sure that there are children who have died because they thought they were playing cowboys and indians when they pointed a gun at one of their friends. Things happen. That is just the way of life. 

And just for the record, its been proven that the kids who grow up watching/reading the more realistic versions of stories often have better grades and decision making skills. I don't remember the titles of the books that these facts were in, but one of the major authors was Bruno Bettelhiem.  If you really want to know the titles I can find them for you.



And to try and get back on topic, I have to say that I much prefer Studio Ghibli to Pixar, but I don't dislike Pixar at all.
I grew up watching a lot of Pixar's stuff, and I do believe that they are better then Disney at the moment.
But then again, I am not very fond of Disney to begin with. =/

[FunTykoon]

children take movies much more literally and realistically.

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Umm, as far as I know, adults watch the more realistic movies. Seriously, kids are all up in the fairy tales and such. And seriously, have you studied child psychology? Because I know I watch violent movies as a child and I'm not a violent person. With all the kids who have seen violent movies, a suggestion like yours would mean we had a teenybopper mafia running around or something.

No no, you misunderstood. I'm sure little kids would not bring guns to school and shoot every day, but I had used that as an example. Remember when another member had told us that a child, imitating a technique from Naruto, got buried in sand and died? Well, you see, he took it literally, so what's stopping other children from taking such literally and dying? There have been many instances when a child has taken something meant to be a light, impossible fantasy as reality and got harmed or harmed someone else in the process, and that isn't exactly something that we want happening, now do we?

Also:

Another confrontational word out of anyone will result in a warning.

What I'm saying is that by saying or suggesting such, it will have a major affect on children's attitudes towards violence. You see, unlike adults and (to lesser extents) teenagers, children take movies much more literally and realistically. If a movie presents pointing guns at a child and firing randomly in a positive manner, than children will think it has the same position in real life. Of course, needless to say, that isn't exactly something that is acceptable in the real world. When, in cartoons, villains get blown away with only a bruise on the cheek, people actually die.

Today's afterschool special was provided by the letter W. for Who Cares?

I'm just going to put it outright and ask that he get a warning for that.

Whocares, JQ, can you guys stop? I mean, both of you be men and stop arguing over something stupid. Both of you can have political discussions like gentlemen, but when something so petty as movies come along you both act like children. Which ironically is part of your argument.

[Keaton]

Really now.  I mean everyone has a point-- this topic and many others like it seem to be going through the motions of some preset argument-generator, and it isn't working at all.  It's been said before, so I'll say it again.  If this kind of topic can't be made without it degenerating into this kind of crap, it's obvious that they aren't worth being made.  I don't want to censor you all at TDC... far from it in fact, but it looks like that's the road we may have to travel down if it keeps you all on track.

That being said, JQ, that comment was still out of line, not productive to the conversation, and in direct contravention with what I stated earlier.  That's a warning.

Any questions?

[Mysterious F.]

To answer Gamefreak's question, mabye we get so worked up about this because... well, we choose political sides because we feel the side we choose will help people in our position and people we care about, so we understand others with different opinions are doing the same. However, what we like about movies is strictly opinion, so when someone disagrees it sounds much more like an insult. Felt like it was important to state that.

So anyways, to get back on topic, it seems we all agree that Pixar is currently the leading American animation studio, and has easily surpassed Disney.