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Ganon?

Started by JDog, August 01, 2006, 11:15:53 AM

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JDog

What do you think about ganon? I think he's evil.

Hi no Seijin

Well, if Ganon wasn't evil, there wouldn't be a game. :)

He finally gets a personality in TWW.  Now we see some motivation for what he does.  Wait, that's Ganondorf.  Well, I think Ganon has two possible ways of existance (my wording sucks, I know, but it could be worse).  One, he's an evil essence that possesses Ganondorf against his will.  Two, Ganondorf tried to gain Hyrule, and when he was defeated by the Hero of Time, the Triforce of Power turned him into Ganon.
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JDog

Don't tell me, I haven't beaten the game yet remember.

Hi no Seijin

Neither have I, but I read a few novelizations of it and have the player's guide (don't ask unless it's a PM).  I don't care much if a video game is spoiled for me, because part of the reason I play video games is for the challenge.  It's only a movie or a show I don't want spoiled; the only challenge is watching it.
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Evilslayer

Ever played Tales of Symphonia? That's a game with so many shocking revelations the quality would fall dramatically if it was spoiled. And what challenge is there if you use a guide? :-X

As for the topic, how do you define evil? It's really only an opinion. In Star Wars Episode III Obi-Wan tells Anakin that Palpatine is evil and then Anakin say:

'In my point of view the Jedi are evil.'

Ganon may well be evil, but I doubt he views himself that way. The reason he attacks Hyrule is not only just because he can, but of jealousy, and the lust for power.

Hi no Seijin

Actually, I just got the guide because I'm a dork.  I don't plan on having it by me when I play the game.

Evil is based on perspective, I suppose.  But I also suppose that if you hurt hundreds of innocent people in pursuit of power, that makes you evil to some extent.
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Evilslayer

Agreed, but the reasons might be twisted somewhat. As far as he is conserned he's probably only 'sacrifising' them so that he can rule the lands like a 'wise' ruler. Kind of reminds me of Kallor in the book Memories of Ice by Steven Erikson. When someone asks him if betrayal stings his sense of honour he says:

'If you call it a sudden reversal of strategy, the sting fades.'

This comes from the guy who massacred an entire continent that he was ruling just so that the Elder Gods wouldn't show any triumph when defeating him.

JDog

What evilslayer said.

Hi no Seijin

All very good points.  Sometimes, I wonder how it's possible to live in a world where just about everything can be taken several ways. :-X
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Quote from: Hi no Seijin on August 01, 2006, 05:48:11 PM
Well, if Ganon wasn't evil, there wouldn't be a game. :)


There would be Minish Cap and AoL and MM.

MasterKeyX

i despise him with every fiber of my being. >:(


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Evilslayer

QuoteThere would be Minish Cap and AoL and MM.

Neither AoL nor MM would have taken place.

AoL: Link would not have met Impa, nor Zelda. He would therefore not have come to North Castle, where the Sleeping Princess sleeps.

MM: Link was searching for Navi when he stumbled into the Skull Kid. He would not have met Navi if it hadn't been for Ganon.

Pale Dim

I think he looks like death warmed over. But underneath  that creepy Faca'd, you'll find he's....even creepier. ;D ;D


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Nabooru

I think he is a pretty sweet villian.