Is George Bush a Good President?

[MasterKeyX]

CNN and NBC lied during the elecions between Bush and Kerry, exposed by who else but FOX NEWS CHANNEL. Hpw can i trust these other stations when they lie during an impotant election?

And there are soo many things i hear on Fox news that i only hear half of on say ABC or CNN. Why is that? Answer why i only hear half on other stations (liberal) and both on Fox (conservative AND liberal).

Also,you cant possibly tell me that CNN or ABC are not cointrolled. They're controlled by none other than Hollywood. The lberals force the stations to hire only liberals to force their opinions on people. Like on CNN, when a conservative went on to talk about his book, the 4 interviewers bashed him and wouldnt even let him speak. And you dare tell me these other stations are fair and balanced? I dont think so.

You must be a real conspiracy theorist to think that everything conservative, like Fox or any conservative people are owned and controlled by the government. YOU'RE the one that being brainwashed by the liberal party into the ideas, not the other way around.

[darkphantomime]

Quote from Masterkey:

CNN and NBC lied during the elecions between Bush and Kerry, exposed by who else but FOX NEWS CHANNEL. Hpw can i trust these other stations when they lie during an impotant election?

And there are soo many things i hear on Fox news that i only hear half of on say ABC or CNN. Why is that? Answer why i only hear half on other stations (liberal) and both on Fox (conservative AND liberal).


But It's you whose getting sucked into the conspiracy thread. Fox news tells you this stuff without giving any evidence to support it, meaning you believe whatever they say, like a little puppet who has none of his own voice.

A true news organization is not concerned with so called 'fair and balanced' reporting. A true news organization is concerned with authinticity and finding the truth, not for taking and manipulating our passions on a whim. IF you need an example, look how they are manipulating you, and tell me that I am wrong, bbut you will only say that I am wrong because of your stubborn belief. There is the truth, and then, there is an attempt to destroy unity. Do you believe what the tabloids say? Things that no paper in there right mind would print?  

[Gamefreak]

And once again I ask, what makes CNN and NBC so pure and full of good intentions?

[Rev Rabies]

GF is right. you only hear half the things on CNN that fox says because fox tells you everything about the issue. cnn and nbc talk about how the war is "bad" and it's all bush's "fault" fox will tell you the good and bad about the issue.

[darkphantomime]

The Reason CNN and NBC are so much better, is that they at least will be trusted enough to tell the truth. In the end, what matters is the reality, the truth, the reality of the matter of every singlie day. Do we really want to dillude ourselves with what we want to here? Or would we rather have the truth of the matter?

It's a little something called integrity that Fox news will never be able to have. Because in the end, when they present two sides that are so far left and right. that neither viewpoint becomes trustworthy, or desirable. In the end all it does is P*** everyone off, because in the end, there is no neutral argument, there is no truth.

But at least with CNN, no one's fighting. It's just a calm manner to know and report the truth, because in the end, that's all that really matters.

[MasterKeyX]

1- CNN and NBC are the ones that are lting to you. You have seriously been brainwashed into thinming everyhting a Conservative syas is wrong and a huge lie.

2-Im no puppet who has no voice of his own. I disagree with many things FOX news says, but i disagree with more things NBC and CNN say so i watch Fox news. And please tell me your joking when you say Fox gives no evidence, it gives a whole bevy of evidence you wont find on CNNor NBC or ABC

3- How can NBC or CNN be "finding the truth" when they (as i wil say again) LIED TO MAKE BUSH LOOK BAD DURING THE ELECTION?

4-On Fox,people dont fight, they debate. The reason no one fights on CNN or NBC is because they're all the same party: Liberal.

[Nabooru]

I dont like fox news but I dont think it lies I used to have to watch it at my grandmas.

[MasterKeyX]

According to darkphantomine,if you watch it you're being a controlled puppet who has no opinion

[Nabooru]

i know, I dont think any news is bad.

[darkphantomime]

Quote from Masterkey:

2-Im no puppet who has no voice of his own. I disagree with many things FOX news says, but i disagree with more things NBC and CNN say so i watch Fox news. And please tell me your joking when you say Fox gives no evidence, it gives a whole bevy of evidence you wont find on CNNor NBC or ABC

3- How can NBC or CNN be "finding the truth" when they (as i wil say again) LIED TO MAKE BUSH LOOK BAD DURING THE ELECTION?

4-On Fox,people dont fight, they debate.

We're fighting right now aren't we? We are heading in a very nasty direction, aren't we? When debate gets so emotional, and so strong, it eventually turns into an all out fight. You are fighting to prove your point, likewise I am as well.

Give me an example of this evidence, then. Give me an example with reliable sources. You are meant to think that all other news sources lie because it's you that's been brainwashed to follow them. Which is why you are more favored for Fox than any other source. Give me one shred of evidence, one iota of hard cold fact that this has been done. Fox is competing with all the other news outlets, so of course they will use underhanded tactics like they do with you. Are you one of those people that think "whoever is not with me is against me"? That is complete idiocy, open your mind to the rest of the world. Because at least somewhere, there are those who are actually sane enough to look at the issues, not divide  by politcal party A or B. You ever heard of a neutral person? That's why our democracy is failing, there are only two main parties. But look at every other developped country in the world, they all consist of multi-party platforms.

If you want to destroy all things liberal, then you can kiss good-bye your rights as an american, your freedoms of speech, of petition, of assembly, of press, and of Religion. You can also kiss goodbye your right to make money at a job, or your right to an education. If you think Liberals, and by extension, liberty is bad, then you should destroy all your rights and freedoms which are granted under the constitution and amendments thereto.

[Zelda Veteran]

Yeah guys, put that in your pipe and smoke it! Darkphantomime has incredible opinions, and retorts! And as for him being brainwashed. You're the ones who are being brainwashed by society. The government knows too many things that we dont. And although some of dont like to admit it, America can be a very sleezy country. It all depends omn who is running office. And at this point, we are the most hated country in the world. And as for what i have to say. One word. Google!

"It is likely that more than 50% of the U.S. population is strongly dissatisfied with the ascendancy of George W. Bush to the office of President. There are three likely reasons:

1. Bush won the election under questionable circumstances;
2. Bush has espoused a reactionary platform that places him far to the right of mainstream America;
3. Bush has demonstrated none of the intellectual attributes expected of a president.

In the interest of democracy, one could discredit election gripes (point number one) as being unfair to our longstanding electoral college process.  Also, one might disregard Bush's agenda (point number two) because the
hallmark of the United States Constitution is tolerance for divergent political and moral beliefs.
However, point number three leads to a more egregious problem, namely that a rather anonymous man, with no distinguishing ambition or vision has, by virtue of family wealth and connection, been installed as President of the
United States. Even the most cursory glance at George W. Bush's history and character builds a strong case for charges of nepotism and cronyism. Such a glaring display of favoritism, to benefit an individual with no considerable
talent, runs counter to the spirit of competition and fair play that has driven the engine of American capitalism for more than two hundred years.
There is a way to tangibly and immediately raise a voice in protest of  George W. Bush as President. For the remainder of his term, conscientious Americans should simply write "Bush Is a Fraud" on all U.S.
currency that passes through their hands."

I found that contend on this page
http://www.iuptown.com/WatchDubya/BushIsAFraud.htm

[EmeraldZelda2.0]

man this topic is starting to become a war.

[Zelda Veteran]

Yeah it is. Darkphantomime and I VS TDC

[EmeraldZelda2.0]

I don't even get what are you'll are saying.

[Darth Wyndisis]

This topic will be locked if we cannot debate without fighting.  We are supposed to get along here, and if it starts to look like our political beliefs are going to interfere with that, say 'bye bye' to this topic.