Is George Bush a Good President?

[Gamefreak]

Ok, I don't mind if some people in the recent past of this topic don't like Bush, but this is a debate topic more than anything.  So just posting "I don't like Bush" is not really a point to be made; however, you can add on to that by elaborating on why you don't like Bush.

[Lemmy]

I said I didn't agree with him on the issues such as iraq and taxes.

[Gamefreak]

And that's fine, but you need to be a little in depth.  Just saying "I don't agree" is not a valid debate.  So if you'd like to explain on why you don't agree with Bush.  Then go ahead.

[MasterKeyX]

I wouldlove to hear the reason, my friend.

[Lemmy]

Well I dont think its fair that he gives tax breaks to the rich and raises taxes for the poor! Hes just supports corporate america! It sucks!

[Sabatta]

now i am no bush lover, but it would probally be a good idea to lock this tpoic for this thing goes on for years

[Gamefreak]

No, it doesn't need to be locked.  We're all mature here(I hope) and can contain our feelings about it to well thought out thoughts and feelings depicting what we feel.

I hate to try digging a little deeper, but you could you give examples about how Bush supports corporate America?

[Sabatta]

Corporate armerica? the only section hes probally aided are the oil and construction companies he and dick cheney own...

[Gamefreak]

Now is that what you're thinking, or is that what you've heard from leftist extremists like Michael Moore who will go to no ends to shame the President.

"Now, why did your girlfriend break up with you?"
"It was George Bush's fault"

[Sabatta]

no becuase its true, if you wish for me to exsplain i shall do so later, i;'m going to the movies ! if you guys wnat a full blown GB rant just ask me, i cna probally do about a 4 page long esay on just why Bush is a bad president(and all of my stuff is true as well, i'm not one to start babling crap that isnt true)

[Gamefreak]

I would like to see that.  I haven't had a good debate in a long time.  Back then it was me, Master(Christmas)Key, and Dr. Rabies vs. TwilightZelda, Darkphantomime, and Zelda Veteran and that quieted down a while ago, so a reprise of the heated but calm debate would be appreciated.

[Sabatta]

yaih! i wont be leaving until 9! let the rant begin!!!!

Why George Bush is the person i'd most like to kill

Now here i go! Why bush is the perosn i;d most like to kill boils down to 3 things, 1.hes a moron, 2. hes corrupt, and 3.Cheney

This man has done many bad things to this earth, from cutting down on cleer air acts to giving away jobs to contracters with out a bidding process( normal for any construction style job many companies would sum up there money and place a bid, and it would go to the lowest) but in this case they just went out and gave projects to Cheneys company(i cnat rmeber the name but he is also the heir to it, that or former vise president) which is pure BS for contracters like my father(but they were mostly projects in Iraq, so i diddnt hurt us too badly) they have cut many many MANY projects that would seriosly help america(including i'm pretty sure at least 3 different automobile fule source ones) he blow off the balance defeacet the day he went in office(Clinton had an 15 billion(might have been trillion) dollar surplus(money thats left over after america has payed off all its debts) he openly KNEW 9-11 was comeing but he did NOTHING(which was in fact a good plan becuase that would give him the leave to do basicly what ever he wanted, probbably cheney thought of it though) has left the capture of Osama to the welcoming hands of iraqi overlords(i'm not kidding he realy did let them hunt him instead of US troops) he has basicly made us perhaps the most hated country in the UN and the world(with the exception of france of course ) he has allowed the tortuing of  iraqi civilions, he also has allowed more and more logging companies to CLEAR CUT  forest(even a few park forests) and to top it off hes a friggin STONER, hell they CAUGHT this guy huffing weed wile he was in office(dont beilve me, watch Feirheight911) And for what? more money in his packet? more power to the bush family? to personaly run the USA into the ground so he can start a Dicttaaraship?or just becuase hes such a dumb ass he has no idea of the impact of his decisions? that i leave to you to answer, ponder the answer, for these are the facts(well probally a 3rd of them, couldnt remebr them all on the fly) remeber them well

[Sabatta]

so my fellow posters what did you think of THAT? and that stuff is ALL true, also for those who are pro Bush i sugest going to your local movie store and renting Feirenhieght911 you'd have to ignoring the truth to say Bush is a good president after seeing that.

[Gamefreak]

Ah, this brings back fond memories.

1. Michael Moore is on the same level (though on different sides) as Ann Coulter (who I also disagree with).  Both will go to no ends to shame the opposite party.  None of them will ever have anything good to say about the party they're against.

2. Even if George Bush knew about 9/11(and that's a pretty big if), he had a shattered FBI and CIA from Clinton's presidency.  Clinton made several cuts to our intellegence.  So any signs we might have had about 9/11 happening would have been hard to pick up.

3. I don't think the weed thing is a valid argument.  If memory serves, that happened quite a long time ago.  So to judge his presidency on that is pretty out there.

4. I believe that during Bill Clinton's presidency, Saudi Arabia captured Osama, and offered him to us.  Bill Clinton denied saying that we had nothing against him.

5. With the circumstances of 9/11 (see above for my reasoning on that), I think George Bush did a very fine job handling the economy.

[Lemmy]

3.Cheney

Yeah um a reason you hate someone cant be because another person exists...