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Started by JDog, August 01, 2006, 11:15:53 AM

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LadyNintendo

Late reply about Tales Of Symphonia, but that story just sucked. What was that whole "sacrifice" scene and the whole "Llyod making a vow thing"? The game has good gameplay and therefor, has some quality. But I have yet to find a rpg with a worse story. About 90% of the story development, I wasn't sure whether I should be crying or laughing.

About Ganon(dorf), I think he has become evil. But once, he was the wisest of all rulers. In Oot, the Hylian royal family rules all, not just Hylians. I've played the game when I was very young, and only a bit. I'm replaying it now and I'm just disgusted by the fact even the fairies bow for that royal family. What kind of peace is that? Ganondorf in my opinion, was the only one who stood up against that injustice, and was marked the bad guy for that. The family used their sweet little blond princess to make sure we would "understand" that. I can imagine him turning evil for real because of that.

alical

Yeah, I kinda understand that. Each race should have their  own rule as such. I mean the Sheikahs were a whole race dedicated to serving the Royal family.
He did go a bit over the top. What with destroying everything though.

MasterKeyX

yeah....he kinda did...maybe the royal family is corrupt?


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Nabooru

I think there was some sorta thing between Nabooru and him...I read this fanfic that was about it and it was pretty good.

Evilslayer

QuoteAbout Ganon(dorf), I think he has become evil. But once, he was the wisest of all rulers. In Oot, the Hylian royal family rules all, not just Hylians. I've played the game when I was very young, and only a bit. I'm replaying it now and I'm just disgusted by the fact even the fairies bow for that royal family. What kind of peace is that? Ganondorf in my opinion, was the only one who stood up against that injustice, and was marked the bad guy for that. The family used their sweet little blond princess to make sure we would "understand" that. I can imagine him turning evil for real because of that.

Er... just, WTF? For one, the Gerudos does NOT live in Hyrule, so they are unaffected by the rule of the Hylia. Secondly, Hyrule is NOT a tyranny. If the King hadn't united all the kingdoms of Hyrule the lands would have been destroyed by war.

The King brought peace to Hyrule and the people love him. That's why they bow for him.

LadyNintendo

Quote from: Evilslayer on August 25, 2006, 12:50:49 AM
Er... just, WTF? For one, the Gerudos does NOT live in Hyrule, so they are unaffected by the rule of the Hylia. Secondly, Hyrule is NOT a tyranny. If the King hadn't united all the kingdoms of Hyrule the lands would have been destroyed by war.

The King brought peace to Hyrule and the people love him. That's why they bow for him.

Doubt that. You see, I could believe that, but I just don't. If I would've been Darunia, I would've felt so much more insulted by the fact I'm apparently not worthy enough to get a representative that is more than some child, who learned that stupid song in 1 of the 10 minutes he met someone of the royal family and became their representative. I hate it how that song grants access to EVERYTHING. Who does the Hylian royal family think they are? Is Hylian business Zora business? No, and this isn't even some equal thing or so. The other royalties are "less". And what's with that race that's completely dedicated to serving them?  Peace can be established by many things, but the whole "these dudes swore loyalty to the royal family", "that one did" etc. And why the faeries? Aren't they supposed to help all who seek aid rather than only a member or representative of the royal family. Even if all parties agree, it's still a twisted kind of peace. Termina does a better job.

alical

Quote from: Nabooru on August 24, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
I think there was some sorta thing between Nabooru and him...I read this fanfic that was about it and it was pretty good.

I think he wasn't born evil and he and Nabooru were "friends" then he turned evil and they split up.

Pale Dim

Quote from: LadyNintendo on August 25, 2006, 03:54:16 AM
Quote from: Evilslayer on August 25, 2006, 12:50:49 AM
Er... just, WTF? For one, the Gerudos does NOT live in Hyrule, so they are unaffected by the rule of the Hylia. Secondly, Hyrule is NOT a tyranny. If the King hadn't united all the kingdoms of Hyrule the lands would have been destroyed by war.

The King brought peace to Hyrule and the people love him. That's why they bow for him.

Doubt that. You see, I could believe that, but I just don't. If I would've been Darunia, I would've felt so much more insulted by the fact I'm apparently not worthy enough to get a representative that is more than some child, who learned that stupid song in 1 of the 10 minutes he met someone of the royal family and became their representative. I hate it how that song grants access to EVERYTHING. Who does the Hylian royal family think they are? Is Hylian business Zora business? No, and this isn't even some equal thing or so. The other royalties are "less". And what's with that race that's completely dedicated to serving them?  Peace can be established by many things, but the whole "these dudes swore loyalty to the royal family", "that one did" etc. And why the faeries? Aren't they supposed to help all who seek aid rather than only a member or representative of the royal family. Even if all parties agree, it's still a twisted kind of peace. Termina does a better job.
Uh-huh. But you see, the thing is, that Daruna is pretty much the leader of the Gorons. King Zora is the King of the Zoras, and the Deku tree is the father of the Kokiris, just as Ganondorf is the King of his own territory. No, the King's bussiness isn't really Zora's, because the Zora's have their own king. You see, Daruna is the leader of the Gorons, making him the self proclaimed BROTHER of the King. The problem with Ganondorf is that he is a theif, killed people, uses dark magic, and is power hungry. Why do you think he got the triforce of power? Because of the great war, the King of Hyrule united the areas in Hyrule to make one united country. But Gerudos didn't want that, because they were probably upset about the loss, they didn't want any part of it. The Kokiris didn't want any part of it, either, because they didn't want to leave the safety of the deku tree. You see, they are ruled by their own leaders, or they would've been destroyed, like someone already said before. And that's all I have to say.


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Nabooru

Quote from: x*TwilightZelda*x on August 25, 2006, 09:04:34 AM
Quote from: Nabooru on August 24, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
I think there was some sorta thing between Nabooru and him...I read this fanfic that was about it and it was pretty good.

I think he wasn't born evil and he and Nabooru were "friends" then he turned evil and they split up.

I think they had something and then he began to want power and when he was takin over hyrule he became like possesive of her or something.

Pale Dim

Well, what he ruled wasn't enough for him. He wanted MORE! MORE POWER! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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MasterKeyX

ahhh! :o

Ganondorf is the bad guy,period.Its a game, there no corruption in it guys. Its not real!


RIP my LeafGreen team: 2005-2010

Nabooru

And so whats the point of being on here? This is where people discuss different options and opinions. And mine is there is a reason.

alical

Quote from: MasterKey on August 25, 2006, 05:43:03 PM
ahhh! :o

Ganondorf is the bad guy,period.Its a game, there no corruption in it guys. Its not real!

You have NO proof that that is true.
Anyway you are saying oh its a game we shouldn't look for a back story.
Have you never looked at the compendium?

Pale Dim

I have changed my oppinion! I like the Ganon in TWW better than the Oot Ganon!  


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Aero

I like ganondorf better then Ganon. I don't like monster pigs very much. Still the number one villain in my heart will always be Vaati. Sure he may not be as evil, but I love him anyways.  :)