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Sheikah-thieves?

Started by Knil, August 14, 2006, 09:24:14 AM

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Knil

I know we all know about Impa, Zelda's protector, but what about the other Sheikah? I know Impa said they died out but what if they worked behind closed doors? Maybe they helped bring back Ganon? That could be what the tear stands for. It could stand for the Sheikah that turned bad. If you notice Sheik helps Link out more in OoT than in any other game. She could be making up for it. That might be why the symbol is in the Forsaken Fortress in WW and why it's on Agahnim's cloak. I could be totally wrong on my opinion, but it's free to post. I personally like some opinions.

Anju

Quote from: Knil on August 14, 2006, 09:24:14 AM
I know we all know about Impa, Zelda's protector, but what about the other Sheikah? I know Impa said they died out but what if they worked behind closed doors? Maybe they helped bring back Ganon? That could be what the tear stands for. It could stand for the Sheikah that turned bad. If you notice Sheik helps Link out more in OoT than in any other game. She could be making up for it. That might be why the symbol is in the Forsaken Fortress in WW and why it's on Agahnim's cloak. I could be totally wrong on my opinion, but it's free to post. I personally like some opinions.
Sheik is Zelda so,that's why she helped him.

Nabooru

that is am intresting idea...

Hi no Seijin

Sheik was only in OoT.  He wasn't in any other Zelda game.  And if you do talk about Sheik, refer to him as a he, not a she.  We all know now that Sheik is really Zelda, but Sheik is a boy.  Zelda is a girl.
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I know Sheik is Zelda and vice-versa. I beat Oot at least 10 times. Sheik is a boy/alter ego of Zelda, ok whatever.That's not the issue. The issue is Zelda/Sheik doesn't help you in any other Zelda game as much as OoT. Somethin' has to be goin' on and I didn't refer to him as a her (at least I don't think I did).

Hi no Seijin

No, you called Sheik a she.  And of course Sheik helped Link more in OoT than any other game.  Sheik was only in OoT.
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Knil

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Sheik's alter-ego is Zelda. Zelda has not helped link as much as in OoT than in any other game, but I don't care about Sheik or Zelda. I didn't think OoT was very good or fun besides the storyline. Personally I want to know about the Sheikah! >:( :'(

Hi no Seijin

First off, Sheik is a disguise used by Zelda in OoT.  Just as Batman is Bruce Wayne's alter ego, Sheik is Zelda's alter ego.  Further more, you make it sound like there is only one Zelda and one Link in the whole series.  There isn't.  Far too much time takes place between games for there to be one Zelda and Link.  And then there is the fact that Link and Zelda meet for the first time in quite a few games.

Who doesn't want to know more about the Sheikah?  But Nintendo is making them very true to themselves by not revealing anything about them.
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In most of the Zelda games, Zelda was merely a princess in need of help, almost always trapped in stone or kidnapped somewhere. In OOT Zelda was only a Sheik out of circumstance.

In LTTP she helps you briefly by pushing aside a large and heavy sword ornament to access the sewer.

In OOT its said by one of the Stones of Truth(or someone) that "Zelda, despite her appearance, shes actually quite the tomboy!" so Zelda could've been and most likely was trained by Impa to take the disguise of a Sheik. She only appeared as a Sheik in this one, but I doubt Impa or Zelda had anything to do with Ganons...Well considering that he wasn't even Ganon by then, and most sheik were already dead I don't see how he could be brought back at all.

Zelda helps you again in Wind Waker. This time though shes a pirate this time, this doesn't mean that there are pirates going about resurrecting Ganon.

Edit: Though, in one of the uncanon mangas it shows Sheik/Zelda is actually working for Ganon, but only as a guise to get closer to him without Ganon finding out that she is actually the carrier of the wisdom triforce.

Knil

First of all, I said Sheik is Zelda's Alter-ego in the first sentence. Secondly, I have about six or seven Zeldas and Links. I never said there was just one. Thirdly, I said Sheik/Zelda helps you the MOST in OoT, not that she didn't in the other games. Fourthly, I never said Sheik or Impa helped Ganon revive, but the "supposedly" dead Sheikah did, and I'm only saying that they did in OoT, but they're there right before WW, so that explains the symbol, and Ganon could've killed them before because of their failure.

Mister J Sinister

I'm not saying you're wrong. And now I realise the topic is about the Sheikah and not Sheik. So sorry if I offended you.

I simply mean to say; In OOT Ganondorf is shown for once as a human, and during his rise to power, So I don't see how the Sheik would at any time be able to bring Ganon back if he was just starting out. Though its entirely possible they had dark dealings before and were destroyd because of them, I'm not an expert on the Sheik.

and that in the recent Zelda games, that Zelda actually has been playing a helpful role alongside Link. Sheik only appears in OOT because thats the only Zelda that was trained to be a  Sheikah. Thats probably why she helped.

----I misunderstood your entire first post, it sounded to me like you were pushing  that Sheik only helps you during OOT because ancient Sheikah helped resurect ganon, not that later on Sheikah that Zelda doesn't know help ressurect Ganon in WW.

Though I'll tell you another thing about that tear, There was a similar theory, again in the uncanon manga. About how bad traitor sheikah drew a tear under their eye to show their shame or something.

Hi no Seijin

Quote from: Knil on August 14, 2006, 06:10:59 PM
First of all, I said Sheik is Zelda's Alter-ego in the first sentence.
No, you said Zelda is Sheik's alter ego.
QuoteSecondly, I have about six or seven Zeldas and Links. I never said there was just one.
And I said you made it sound like you had one Link and Zelda.  You may have had it clear in your mind, but it was not clear on the proverbial paper.
QuoteThirdly, I said Sheik/Zelda helps you the MOST in OoT, not that she didn't in the other games.
Okay, we know Sheik is Zelda, but he's not used in other games.  Stop making it sound like he was.
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Knil

#12
That explains Impa being the sage to the Shadow/Dark temple, but seriously I'm am extremely sorry for offending both of you. :'( Zelda didn't help you as much as in any other game. I sounded like an a**hole( you can type that right?) there.So want to drop this topic. If I can, how do you do that?

Mister J Sinister

Actually, I thought I had offended you. .__.

But no harm done. You haven't offended me.
I am simply confused by the point you are trying to make.

Knil

Well the point is , I'm here to make friends not enemies. Let's just leave the Zelda/Sheik thing out for now. Also, I found it weird that a group protecting the royal would have such a dark dungeon in OoT. Personally, I think they should've made Impa the Spirit Sage and Nabooru the Desert Sage. That justs makes more sense to me.