Majora==>Mudora?

[jarod the dark mag]

mudora is an old wiseman that colleted stories and
and knew the ancient hylian dialect, he couldn't have created that mask

in the manga, there's a special chapter about majora wich tells about a monster in some strange dissorted place, that eats all beings that crossed its path, until a warrior appeared that confused him and sealed his dark power in a mask


If you use cheats you can go behind the stone door again.. and you can walk into that strange forest temple like room, nothing special

[Jack]

That's never stated in the game. The Mask Salesman mentions a tribe, but not where the tribe came from. Besides, the Skull Kid robbed the Mask Salesman in the forest.

Are you sure? I could have sworn it was in the there somewhere. I got to check a game script now.

Though, maybe I'm crazy and it was just in the manual.

[Hi no Seijin]

Concerning what jarod said, I though manga wasn't considered canon.

[Jack]

Concerning what jarod said, I though manga wasn't considered canon.

Yeah, it's not.

[Knil]

The Deku butler was behind the door.

[Master Dragmire]

Well, it is certain that the Majora's Mask was created in Hyrule. A Skullkid is a result of a human that enters the Kokiri Forest. Must have been medling again   .
But anyway perhaps this tripe that is spoken of is the Gerudo. Maybe Termina is a civilasation created solely by the mask's evil power. But it must have been lost in the great war.
And as we know, the Happy Mask Salesman will do ANYTHING for a mask, even follow a medling Skullkid into an alternate dimension???
This a very intesting topic.

[Hi no Seijin]

Of course he would follow the Skull Kid.  He took Majora's Mask from the Happy Mask Salesman, and the latter was well aware of how dangerous the mask was.

[LadyNintendo]

Well, it is certain that the Majora's Mask was created in Hyrule. A Skullkid is a result of a human that enters the Kokiri Forest. Must have been medling again   .
But anyway perhaps this tripe that is spoken of is the Gerudo. Maybe Termina is a civilasation created solely by the mask's evil power. But it must have been lost in the great war.
And as we know, the Happy Mask Salesman will do ANYTHING for a mask, even follow a medling Skullkid into an alternate dimension???
This a very intesting topic.

A. No, it's not certain that Majora's Mask is from Hyrule. It can be from every place ever mentioned and every place never mentioned in the TLOZ-games. For all we know it's from Mushroom Kingdom or Onett.
B. Actually, we don't know if that Skullkid-thing is true. While it might be, don't forget Navi ended the sentence with a ?. She doesn't know for certain either; in fact, she's just guessing.
C. The HMS won't do anything for a mask. But he will do a lot to get a mask back that was stolen from him and is capable of destroying entire dimensions.  

[Zelda Veteran]

It's true that the happy mask salesman is first seen in Hyrule, but with that large pack on his back, is it possible he could be a traveler? Is it possible that he came from somewhere other than hyrule or Termina? And I thought Termina was a paralell world, like it says on the back of the box for the collectors edition. There are like replicas of every person in hyrule, and that was made literal in the manga.

[Master Dragmire]

When i said Hyrule I meant not Termina. Although that is where i suppose it would it would be made. When I say Hyrule I mean the world of Hyrule as saying The Universe of The Legend of Zelda Games takes too long and Termina is unknown so I dont take that as part of that.

[DW]

hmm...what is their world called... :-\Hyrule is the Kingdom and town...

[Evilslayer]

Hyrule is a town, a kingdom and a sub-continent. Maybe the world is called Hyrule as well?

[DW]

Maybe...the world is Ordonia!That's why in TP the  light spirits are FAROn,elDIN, laNAYRU, and Ordon...three Goddesses and the world they created!

[The Glamour Nazi]

Okay, I happened upon this (very) dead topic and had to show something learned through studying japanese.

"chi" becomes a special voiced form of the syllable "ji" which can then add "yo" to it turning it into the glide syllable "jo" but it can also be read a "do" as "tsu" is also a special voiced syllable that becomes "zu" but is writen "du".

So in fact, the name "Majora" is in fact the name "Mudora" since the translators were a bit off back when Mudora was still being used. Remember "Gannon"?

So I just had to bring this up, since it helped me realize something.

Please forgive me for my thread revival that is several years old.

[Keaton]

Okay, I happened upon this (very) dead topic and had to show something learned through studying japanese.

"chi" becomes a special voiced form of the syllable "ji" which can then add "yo" to it turning it into the glide syllable "jo" but it can also be read a "do" as "tsu" is also a special voiced syllable that becomes "zu" but is writen "du".

So in fact, the name "Majora" is in fact the name "Mudora" since the translators were a bit off back when Mudora was still being used. Remember "Gannon"?

So I just had to bring this up, since it helped me realize something.

Please forgive me for my thread revival that is several years old.

So you're saying that Majora and Mudora are the same name, just improperly translated?   That's pretty interesting, too interesting to be coincidence.

Another interesting thing to think about:





In the Desert of Mystery (picture one) the entrance to the Desert Palace is guarded by three massive tortoise shells, which Link can move by translating a tablet with the Book of Mudora.  By using the translation within Link says what is obviously a prayer (ala Sanctuary Chorus) and the shells move, granting access to the temple.

Note that the temple entrance bears striking similarities to the Stone Tower Temple entrance (picture two), save for the fact that the eyes are closed and the colors are faded in the Desert Palace.  There are three entrances to the Desert palace, and there are three monolithic spires in the cactus-shaped Stone Tower.

Since the prayer caused the tortoise shells to move, it's obvious that Mudora (Majora) had access to great power.  Who's to say how he used it?  It can't have been too hard to channel that power to turn himself into a great beast or seal that power away into a mask that was capable of making the moon fall?

Also, both the Desert Palace and the Stone Tower are guarded by the same beasts with the same name:  Twinmold.  It's possible that the Stone Tower is a dark parody of the Desert Palace, or they're the same place, in different locations...