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Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

Started by darkphantomime, October 07, 2006, 08:42:27 AM

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Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

Yeah!
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NAY!!!
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Possible...
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Hmm, dunno...
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Total Members Voted: 28

Master Dragmire


Vaati

I also don't think MC is first because Vaati is the main villain and, personally, I believe that if MC was the first game, Ganon would be the main villain because he's much stronger than Vaati. (I apologize about that, Vaati.  :( )

Commodore Axilon

I don't see how that makes any sense. If TMC came first, Ganondorf wouldn't be in it anyway. You know, seeing as how he wasn't even born yet.

And using strength as an indicator of...firstiness (?!) doesn't make sense to me either.

Vaati

Well, Ganon's obviously older than Vaati, but when they're selaed away in the Four Sword or Master Sword or whatever, they probably don't age. So, I'm thinking in OoT, which I think came first, Vaati wouldn't have even been born yet.

Commodore Axilon

#109
If TMC comes first then that obviously means it comes before OoT. Now Ganondorf is about 30-50 years old in OoT, right? The changes in society, blah blah, whatever, et cetera, ad nauseum would realistically put TMC around a couple hundred years before OoT. Ergo, Ganon could not have realistically appeared in TMC without some serious paradoxical sh*t happening.

Note: I don't actually believe TMC comes first. I'm just saying that using Ganon's absence as evidence for it is silly.

M-Warrior

Two words approve that MC comes first: The SouthWest

Commodore Axilon

#111
I don't know what that means!

*edited to make more dramatic*

M-Warrior

Play MC, replay OoT, and check what area is in the southwest.

Commodore Axilon

Uh, the Wind Ruins?

Note: I don't actually have TMC, so I'm just going by this map. If there's something wrong with it, somebody please tell me.

Fishalicious

#114
Okay, well, I think Ocarina of Time was first.

I'm not a theorist, at least, not a timeline theorist, but... Ganon shows up in Ocarina of Time, and people would've said something about him looking like a previous villian if it weren't the first.

I personally think it's the same Ganon in every game, and there's no reincarnation business going on. >> But that's just me. I'm not really one to say these things, but I really do think Ocarina came first.

And what does Link having a hat have to do with anything? XD I mean, yeah, he almost always has his hat, but it's just an article of clothing. They always say the hero wore green clothes and stuff, but I beat OoT in my Zora tunic, and TP in my Zora Armour... Those are both blue, and not green, but he's still the hero, yes yes?

But if TMC came first, it would explain his hat, I guess.

(By the way, in the Southwest in TMC is Castor Wilds (that swamp place) and in OoT it's Lake Hylia/Gerudo Desert.)

M-Warrior

Exacly! The Swamp and Desert. Notice the small difference between them! Castor Wilds(In my theory) dried up into a the desert we see in OoT, TP, FSA, and AlttP. I recall there are no other games with a swamp in the southwest(Except for ALttP in which the desert's Dark World version is a swamp but that's not important)

darkphantomime

Oh dear god, hre we go all over again. I made a post way way back earlier in this  topic about how it may have been possible that the desert and lake PRECEDED the swamp. It is nothing definite. And besides, how long would it take for either to happen? a hundred years? a thousand? It's even possible that MC takes place a few centuries after WW. There simply is no conclusive evidence towards that term. Geography can change a LOT over a long time, but it can change in ways that you really wouldn't expect. Maybe The lake and the desert change into a swamp, or Vice versa.

And basing this on geography when your storyline theories have been defeated is a rather weak argument.

Evilslayer

QuoteIf TMC comes first then that obviously means it comes before OoT. Now Ganondorf is about 30-50 years old in OoT, right? The changes in society, blah blah, whatever, et cetera, ad nauseum would realistically put TMC around a couple hundred years before OoT. Ergo, Ganon could not have realistically appeared in TMC without some serious paradoxical sh*t happening.

1. FSA kills your argument.
2. It's NEVER stated in OoT that Ganon was recently borne. He could have been resurrected.
3. FSA kills your argument.
4. You know what? He might have lived before. As a DAEMON!
5. Oh yeah, and FSA kills your argument. Completely.

*cough*reincarnation*cough*

Mysterious F.

#118
QuoteExacly! The Swamp and Desert. Notice the small difference between them! Castor Wilds(In my theory) dried up into a the desert we see in OoT, TP, FSA, and AlttP. I recall there are no other games with a swamp in the southwest(Except for ALttP in which the desert's Dark World version is a swamp but that's not important)

Congradulations, you completely failed geography class!  ;D

Seriously, the desert is NORTHWEST. I don't know how you can even mistake the two directions.

Mount Crenel is where the Gerudo Desert is; Hyrule Castle where the Market and Hyrule Castle are; Veil Falls where Kakariko and Death Mountain are; Lake Hylia the Zora River; Minish Woods the Kokiri Forest; Southern and Northern Hyrule Field and Castle Town with the exception of the center where Lon Lon Ranch would be Lon Lon Ranch, Eastern Hills, and Western Wood would be Hyrule Field; Tribly Highlands the Gerudo Valley.

Castor Wilds and the Wind Ruins are where a very big cloud is. Lake Hylia (OOT) would be south of Link's House. Royal Valley is the cloud in between the Gerudo Desert and Hyrule Castle/Market.

Really, you're geography is the worst I've ever seen. You NEED to work on it.

MC isn't first.

Evilslayer

That's not canon, and geography can't be used as evidence. Using geography as evidence is just as bad as the one-Link theory was in its time. Eventually there will just be too many Hyrule-based games. At best it can be used as hints.

But in my Split Timeline theory TMC, as well as the Legend of the Picori, is after the Great Flood and TWW.