Is it remotely possible for MC to be first?

[LadyNintendo]

Read my posts in the timeline theory topic. If they really go for a dual timeline, they've messed up OOT for good. Single Timeline is difficult, but not impossible. Dual Timeline is downright impossible.

[M-Warrior]

Read it! They actually made absolute sense unlike most single Timeline theorists. And if Mr. Myiamoto and Mr. Aunouma say that there is a Dual Timeline, you know it is right! You'll find the interview in many sites! The Single Timeline is more impossible than the Dual Timeline! Actually the Single Timeline is just downright confusing!

[LadyNintendo]

Have you read my arguments in the other topic?

Maybe I've been a little too harsh on the dual timeline theory, but I still think it's a single timeline. Both haven't really got any flaws, only very awkward situations. So I stick with the single timeline theory until a game proves it's dual. I do not listen to anything the developers have stated. Because whatever they say keeps changing, contradicting earlier statements.

[Hero Link]

I have posted that Link in the Topic: Your Continuity Timline, or whatever it was called...

[LadyNintendo]

And I have read it 2.5 times. I just don't agree with it. That's just my opinion though. I think it makes a few awkward turns and the idea of an entire new timeline just for Link is just.....heroes are not supposed to be rewarded like that. And it's not like he deserved his lost years more than anyone else (everybody lost those years because of Ganondorf).

[M-Warrior]

And I have read it 2.5 times. I just don't agree with it. That's just my opinion though. I think it makes a few awkward turns and the idea of an entire new timeline just for Link is just.....heroes are not supposed to be rewarded like that. And it's not like he deserved his lost years more than anyone else (everybody lost those years because of Ganondorf).

Everybody BUT Link LIVED through those years, they didn't lose those years, duh! And just because Link didn't get rewarded, it doesn't mean he is not a hero! Single timeline theorists, what can you do?  

[LadyNintendo]

So what? I prefer to be unaware of the bad things surrounding me if I don't have some sort of responsiblity. Link was spared from all the bad things that happened and probably saved from death too. He could just continue his life without a care after Ganondorf's defeat, while others will have to work hard to put everything behind them. Almost everyone has suffered a lot more than Link and they did lose those seven years. Nabooru is a very nice example. Why didn't she get the right of a new timeline?

I'll post my vision, a single timeline one, sometime this week. I'd like you to judge it, okay?

[Evilslayer]

The problem with a single timeline, though, is that Link could have just returned the Master Sword at once to its pedestal, returned to his original time, closed the Door of Time, and Ganon would have been trapped in the Golden Land/Dark World.

Also, according TWW Link appeared as from no where, seals Ganon away, and then disappear (through time). According ALttP (one of the maidens say this) when Ganon had entered the Dark World he was trapped there.

Two different stories. Both points towards OoT.

[LadyNintendo]

No problem if you can see time as something unchangeable. Somthing that whatever you do, can't be affected by your actions because those actions are build in. This seems to count for the Master Sword, looking at the Song Of Storms (I will keep saying that).

Suppose this happened: Link entered the Sacred Realm and was followed by Ganondorf. We don't know what happened exactly here, but likely, Rauru saved Link. Knowing/thinking this child might be able to defeat Ganondorf, Rauru kept him with him for seven years, away from the war that was destroying the lands.

So far, we agree, right? I'm going to continue timewise, and not link's timewise.

After falling asleep, another Link emerged, this one being the younger version of the future version of the currently sleeping Link. This Link gets the Eye Of Truth and leaves, only to emerge again several seconds later. This time it is to meet Nabooru. After that, he leaves again. Again to return several seconds later. He returns the Master Sword to its pedestal, closes the door and leaves the Temple Of Time in search of Zelda. I have reasons to ignore/question the meeting-part of OOT's ending. I look at it as being a thought, a wish. Link met Zelda, but it wasn't in Hyrule Castle. It was wherever Impa had hidden her. Anyway, Link and Zelda spend some time together, maybe a month or two. Link told Zelda she should stay in hiding, because he knew what was coming. Maybe he even told her the entire story. Anyway, he left after a while, either because he knew what was coming or because he missed Navi. He returned to Hyrule, but not to known locations. Maybe he helped the other two Sages during these times, but it's not very important. He stayed out of sight because he knew he would not interfere during those years. That, or he was killed without anyone being able to identify him.

Ganondorf escaped, possibly by some of his henchmen's doings. He didn't bother about closing it. Why would he?

A little less than seven years later, sleeping Link wakes up. He does what we all know he did and went back in time twice before defeating Ganondorf. Zelda, during all those years, had become aware of what had happened and thus of what will happen. She guides Link, because she know she "should" do that. (I can't explain this stuff very well. Try to imagine you know the big lines of what happens and you know that everything you do is what "should happen"). When Link defeated Ganondorf, instead of celebrating their new found freedom, she sends him back, because she knows that's what she apparently "did".

Like I said, I can't explain this very well and certainly not in 10 minutes of typing. But try to imagine such a situation. Try to imagine who knew what at which point and consider time not changeable by any means presented in OOT. If you can't understand people doing things simply because they "have to" do them, this is a simpler solution of why Link and Zelda decided not to change anything that had happened and will happen: They knew that despite the horrors of those seven years, everything will be allright (except maybe Link, but they don't know that) and are possibly scared that if they try to make a change, things will end up worse. Link vs Ganon(dorf) was 50-50.

[M-Warrior]

WTF? Seriously, now you are just making a lot of things things up, oh wait... that is what most single timeline theorists do. (I'm not trying to be mean)

[LadyNintendo]

Sorry to say, but you do sound mean. Especially the part about looking down upon single timeline theorists was not necessary.

Like I said, I can't explain it very well, and certainly not in the time I had. I actually need pictures to explain it too. I'm not making anything up. Do you know the show Gargoyles? If you do, try to compare that show's time with OOT's. Elfquest also works with unchangeable time.

Okay, let's try to do it like this: you do the thinking for me. I can't explain it (note: I KNOW what I mean and that it works. I just am not capable of finding the right words to explain it to others that don't know me, in a language that isn't even my own.). What I'm trying to say is: allow yourself for awhile to accept there might be a single timeline. Done? Now, think of OOT's entire story: from the beginning till the end (the end being Link's return to Hyrulean ground, but his adventure in Termina is not important). But think of it that everything that happened (and I hate to say it this way) was "meant" to happen. When Link goes back in time, he's not altering the past. He's fullfilling it. When Zelda sent Link back, it wasn't because she wanted it, but because she knew that is what she did/will do. It's like a circle; the past makes the future, which makes the past. Don't worry too much about this, just try to accept it for awhile and think about it. If you, after that, say: "Okay, it is possible, but I still prefer/ think that it's a dual timeline", then that's enough and all I ask.

[M-Warrior]

I used to be a single timeline theorists but I tried to create a timeline but I got so confused. Then I read a board on a gaming website regarding the dual timeline, it made a lot of sense so I became a Dual timeline theorists. Now this is my Timeline:
MC
FS
OoT<Split>OoT
MM            
FSA-----------TP
ALttP--------WW
LA------------PH
LoZ
AoL

[Hero Link]

Eeeeeh....... FSA takes place some months, after FS...  

[Vaati]

This is what I think:

OoT
MM
TP
LoZ
AoL
LttP
LA
OoA
OoS
MC
FS
FSA
WW
PH ...phew! That was alot to write...

[LadyNintendo]

I used to be a single timeline theorists but I tried to create a timeline but I got so confused. Then I read a board on a gaming website regarding the dual timeline, it made a lot of sense so I became a Dual timeline theorists. Now this is my Timeline:
MC
FS
OoT<Split>OoT
MM            
FSA-----------TP
ALttP--------WW
LA------------PH
LoZ
AoL

And how did you consider the single timeline to be? Because I know you must've thought its time to be changable. I do not say that the dual timeline is wrong and single right. But I do not know of any reason that makes a single timeline impossible if time cannot be changed. It's not difficult.