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Abortion?

Started by MasterKeyX, October 30, 2006, 06:22:17 PM

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MasterKeyX

What side do you takje opn this controversial topic?

Pro-Life: you believe all babaies, no matter what, should live.

Pro-Choice: you believe a woman has the right to choose whether to give birth or abort the baby.

Im Pro-Life; i side with my religion.

I warn against anyone insulting others or arguing explosively, respect each others opinions...


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Momoji

pro-life I guess it should be able to live but if it doesn't make it then it's sad. :(

Darth Wyndisis

I am pro-life, because of my religion, also.

Hi no Seijin

Here's the thing with me.  I often stand on both sides of the issue (I believe this prevented me from writing a decent persuavive paper in school).

Anywho, I'm all for saving the baby, but if it becomes apparent that the mother or the baby will be in danger of dying for any odd reason, then I say sacrifice the baby; especially if the mother is my wife (just a little note for those of you who might take this the wrong way:  no, I am not married; I don't even have a girlfriend).  Although, if the baby is more likely to live than the mother, I suppose it's up to the mother to decide if she wants to sacrifice the baby or herself.

But I don't like the idea of getting an abortion just because the mother is a teenager, the mother doesn't want the child, or both.  There are better ways of dealing with an unwanted child.
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LadyNintendo

I'm pro-choice. The only one for now apparently.

Do not take this the wrong way.

While I prefer to see a fetus actually having a chance to become more, I think there are enough cases that make its "death" a rational solution.

For one, I myself would rather cut it out with the first sharp thing I can find, than carry something I don't want and never wanted for nine whole months. And noone can make me. This may sound harsh, but for me it's the truth. I never want children and have felt that way for six years now. But suppose I'll get raped somewhere in the future and get pregnant. My body and mind will have been abused once, would I need to be reminded of that for nine months not to mention the rather painful/exhausting climax? Carrying something with me that my body prefers to support above itself? And the child? I would put it up for adoption of course, if I allow it to be born. Chances are he/she will discover it and come look for its biological parents. Ain't that gonna be fun.

Even if the sex would've been voluntarily, some of the above still counts. We are among the few species on this planet that do it for fun. A baby, looking at it that way, can be an unwanted side-effect. Even protection can fail and not all people have been given decent info about it.

Another thing is when the doctors know or give the child a high chance of being born with an awful "flaw". There's enough that can go wrong. Then, it's far more an act of love if the parents choose to not give the child a chance to suffer. Or what if they have/want more children? Then they may consider the fact that they will need to spend far more time with that child than with the others. When it comes to health, even money. For everyone, abortus could be the best solution.

The mother possibly dying if she'd give birth to the child is the final reason why I'm pro-choice. You can't honestly expect her to go on then?

While I do not want to insult anyone, why do you consider your religion to be a sufficient sole argument why you're pro-life? Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against religion or being pro-life. But I do think choosing sides in such a delicate matter should be more than just choosing what you're religion tells you to. I think it's kinda shallow if you don't. Surely, you must have other reasons, thought about it, why you choose to be pro-life?



Hi no Seijin

Quote from: LadyNintendo on October 31, 2006, 04:07:09 AM
The mother possibly dying if she'd give birth to the child is the final reason why I'm pro-choice. You can't honestly expect her to go on then?
I just want to say something about this bit.  Don't underestimate a mother's love.  It can make a woman do anything for her child.
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LadyNintendo

That's why I'm pro-choice. It's not like: "You might die, so to be sure that won't happen, we'll get the fetus out of there now."  :)

It should always be the mother's/parents' own decision.

Pale Dim

Methinks this topic dos needs be banned.


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Hi no Seijin

Why?  It's not breaking any rules.  Sure, it's a delicate subject, but nowhere in the rules does it say we're not allowed to talk about it.
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alical

I am pro-choice.
I agree that any life is worth saving and I think it would be better to, say, put the baby up for adoption, as many people can't have children of their own.

However I think every Mother should choose. No one should be forced to have a baby, thats just wrong.

darkphantomime

I have to agree in this case with TZ and Lady Nintendo. You know that there are people in this country who won't let a woman get an abortion solely because she is a woman? It's the thing where they have to consult with a so-called higher authority, IE: A man.

The thing about this is that there so many ways and circumstances to decide, in the end, it should all boil down to the woman's choice. One man cannot tell another what to do with their body, or what happens. That would imply a sort of slavery. And this is the thing, women are given so little respect and it get's to the point where the woman is controlled completely. This can get to the case in some parts of society where women are trapped and constantly abused without any way of getting out or protecting themselves.

Momoji

Quote from: Hi no Seijin on October 30, 2006, 09:53:33 PM
Here's the thing with me.  I often stand on both sides of the issue (I believe this prevented me from writing a decent persuavive paper in school).

Anywho, I'm all for saving the baby, but if it becomes apparent that the mother or the baby will be in danger of dying for any odd reason, then I say sacrifice the baby; especially if the mother is my wife (just a little note for those of you who might take this the wrong way:  no, I am not married; I don't even have a girlfriend).  Although, if the baby is more likely to live than the mother, I suppose it's up to the mother to decide if she wants to sacrifice the baby or herself.

But I don't like the idea of getting an abortion just because the mother is a teenager, the mother doesn't want the child, or both.  There are better ways of dealing with an unwanted child.

yeah if the baby's or mom's life is in danger it's a hard decision to make.

Rev Rabies

once the fetus is formed the baby is alive therefore having an abortion could be considered murder which isn't only a sin but a crime(or felony)



Harashi

Heres my side, I'm pro-life

The fact that you went and got yourself pregnant is your own problem.( excluding rape victims but still shouldn't abort). Just because you can't control your hormones dosen't mean another human being should suffer because of your carelessness. If you don't want the child put it up for adoption. That way it still has a chance to make something of its life.

MasterKeyX

wow, im gald that this topic is not exploding out of hand. good job, everyone! ;D

But, i would just like to say something. Though i said i am pro-life, sometimes i have my doubts about which is right. While I'm pro-life 90% of the time, i cant help but feel confused about the topic every now and then. It really complicated.


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