Lake Hylia-Greatfish Isles?

[Knil]

I think that Lake Hylia is Greatfish Isle.  Facts that HELP support this theory is in OoT it was south, right?  Then in TP LH moved  NorthEast.  Then in WW it moved NorthEast more.  There is also 1 house on GFI.  Kudos to the Compendium Article.  Which I think is the Scientist's/Fyer's house.  If I'm not mistaken there was a bucket somewhere near Fyer's house.

[Commodore Axilon]

How on earth is a lake gonna turn into an island?

[DW]

and how on earth would a bucket go through a flood like that and be in the same place after all those years?

[Potato_King]

I think that Lake Hylia is Greatfish Isle.  Facts that HELP support this theory is in OoT it was south, right?  Then in TP LH moved  NorthEast.  Then in WW it moved NorthEast more.  There is also 1 house on GFI.  Kudos to the Compendium Article.  Which I think is the Scientist's/Fyer's house.  If I'm not mistaken there was a bucket somewhere near Fyer's house.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with this theory. Personally I think the bucket is just meant to be there as a nice touch, attention to detail if you will. Also, the Greatfish Isles are directly west on the map in WW. An island cannot move, they are created over thousands of years as the lava from volcanic eruptions harden, and therefore connected to the crust of the earth. Now while magic and such exists in Zelda, I cannot see any reason as to why anyone would be able to or even want to move the island.

And Lake Hylia is only in the east in the Wii version of TP. In the Gamecube version its towards the west. The Gamecube version was designed to be essentially a larger version of OoTs map, which works considering the mountains would be in the east, the lake to the west, and forests to the south. It was only reversed for the Wii version so that it would not be a carbon copy of the GC version. While I personally prefer the Wii version (due to controls, visuals, etc.) I will use the map from the GC version to base theories and such on.

[Commodore Axilon]

An island cannot move, they are created over thousands of years as the lava from volcanic eruptions harden, and therefore connected to the crust of the earth.

Except the islands in TWW are the tips of Hyrule's mountains. Still doesn't change your point though.

And Greatfish Isle is in the west too, so I don't know where he's getting this "it moved east" stuff from.

[Knil]

  I didn't think about the mountains or the flood.  That blows my theorie out of the water ( pun intended ).  I guess the bucket wouldn't have stayed in the same place.  Potato King.  I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE WII MAP.  I was talking about the GC TP map. Commodore Axilon.  If you look at the OoT map Lake Hylia is clearly in the south west.  If you look at the TP map, Lake Hylia has MOVED UP AND EAST, not that it is now in the EAST.  TP LH is still in the west

[Mysterious F.]

NORTHWEST. Wii is reversed, it doesn't count.

[Knil]

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WII VERSION.  I PLAYED THE GC VERSION AND ONLY EAST/WEST IS REVERSED, NOT NORTH/SOUTH.

[Evahn]

The lake didn't move ... I don't think Ordona Province was there in OoT, so you would cut that part off.

[Knil]

The lake didn't move ... I don't think Ordona Province was there in OoT, so you would cut that part off.

You do make a point there, but I still think it was there in OoT and it moved of the direction of northeast

[Commodore Axilon]

Why do you think that the lake moved in the first place?

[Potato_King]

I apologise for the misunderstanding, I haven't played TP recently and was thinking Lake Hylia was much further east than it actually was. Everyone makes mistakes! XD

I do not think it has actually physically moved at all. Apart from it being pretty much geologically impossible, have a look at something else thats moved: Zora's Domain. Now in the Wii version its directly north of Hyrule Castle, so I assume its pretty much exactly the same position in the GC version. In OoT Hyrule Castle is the northmost place accesible, with Death Mountain to the east and Zoras Domain further east. But its moved to be directly North of Hyrule Castle in TP.

Here is my reasoning why this has happened, and also the slight movement of Lake Hylia: Nintendo wanted to make the game bigger, to use the Wii's memory better. They probably would have liked doing this in OoT, but didn't have the ability to do it on the N64. However, if they had made the map basically a carbon copy of OoT but on a larger scale, it would suck. Everything would just be further away. So, they moved things around a bit, so that despite the journeys lasting a bit longer the landscape was varied enough to still be interesting, but similar enough to OoTs map to be considered the same place. I expect if you went to Hyrule as a real place, it would be even bigger. There would probably be many towns south of Hyrule Castle, but having a game world this size would take most enjoyment out of any game. Also, it feels more symbolic to have Hyrule Castle in the centre anyway, its sort of a home point where you set out from later in the game, and its where the game reaches its climax.

Regarding the Ordona Province, I think it's safe to assume that in OoTs map it would just be slightly further south. If you look at TPs map, you can probably assume Kokiri forest is just a little bit east of the Faron Province, as that whole southern area is forests anyway.

[Knil]

I apologise for the misunderstanding, I haven't played TP recently and was thinking Lake Hylia was much further east than it actually was. Everyone makes mistakes! XD

I do not think it has actually physically moved at all. Apart from it being pretty much geologically impossible, have a look at something else thats moved: Zora's Domain. Now in the Wii version its directly north of Hyrule Castle, so I assume its pretty much exactly the same position in the GC version. In OoT Hyrule Castle is the northmost place accesible, with Death Mountain to the east and Zoras Domain further east. But its moved to be directly North of Hyrule Castle in TP.

Here is my reasoning why this has happened, and also the slight movement of Lake Hylia: Nintendo wanted to make the game bigger, to use the Wii's memory better. They probably would have liked doing this in OoT, but didn't have the ability to do it on the N64. However, if they had made the map basically a carbon copy of OoT but on a larger scale, it would suck. Everything would just be further away. So, they moved things around a bit, so that despite the journeys lasting a bit longer the landscape was varied enough to still be interesting, but similar enough to OoTs map to be considered the same place. I expect if you went to Hyrule as a real place, it would be even bigger. There would probably be many towns south of Hyrule Castle, but having a game world this size would take most enjoyment out of any game. Also, it feels more symbolic to have Hyrule Castle in the centre anyway, its sort of a home point where you set out from later in the game, and its where the game reaches its climax.

Regarding the Ordona Province, I think it's safe to assume that in OoTs map it would just be slightly further south. If you look at TPs map, you can probably assume Kokiri forest is just a little bit east of the Faron Province, as that whole southern area is forests anyway.

That's makes a lot of sense.

[DW]

I still don't understand how we have to get this scientific about a lake becoming an island. It's common sense that's impossible...

[Knil]

I said, or, the more possible solution, someone else, a while ago it was impossible.  I think the creators had LH in mind when they created GFI