Termina

[Commodore Axilon]

*sighs* Care to explain then how you'd have an identical you running around without some freaky "Mirror, Mirror" parallel universe stuff going on then? For some reason I think mass cloning is out of the question.

[Orpheousanew2nd]

Well, did you ever know that they had a show were they found people who looked exactly like somebody else, but their not blood related. So, I maybe that explains it. The non-blood related identical twin theory.

[MagmarFire]

If you had an identical twin sibling, does that mean that you one of you is from a parallel world. I am not saying that each person in Majora's Mask is an identical twin, but just because they look the same as other people doesn't make it a parallel universe.

Then it was all just one big coincidence that there were many people in Termina that looked exactly the same as people in Hyrule?

And the thing you're describing (the Non-Blood-Related Identical Twin Theory) sounds like you're describing dopplegängers. It's not like they're exactly COMMON...

[Orpheousanew2nd]

You nailed it...it is all coincidence. I am sick of arguing my case with you stubborn people. It is the fact that from the beginning you believed it was a parallel world that threw you all off. After time, you began to depend upon it. Now, you assume it is one hundred percent fact. That is what time does.

[Commodore Axilon]

Woohoo! Thank god the arguing is over, now begins the name calling and strawmanning!

The fact that you think they all look the same out of sheer coincidence speaks bounds about you, really.

[Orpheousanew2nd]

*bashes his head though a chunk of wood*

This is hopeless. Here, let me ask this....

"If Termina was a parallel dimension of Hyrule, than what ever exists in one exists in the other, that is pretty much was a parallel dimension is, then how come there is no Majora's Mask in Hyrule? If you say it is because he does exist there but we never meet him, well, I think we would have at least heard of him. Also, the Happy Mask Salesmen states that he has traveled many lands, which raises the likely hood that he came from Hyrule."

[Keaton]

It IS possible that the Triforce does-- in some shape and form-- exist in Termina, or has at least previously existed there.  Check out my theory on the Stone Tower for more detail, but basically, what is Terminans got jealous because the Hyruleans, their interdimensional cousins, got the Triforce's blessing instead of them, and so they blasphemed and mocked them by making it seem as though they had equal share to the Triforce?  I mean, if the dimensional portal is in the Clock Tower, chances are several people would've found it.  That's not too amazing of a hiding spot, as far as I'm concerned...

Oh, and it's nice to see another ZUer here, Eralk Fang.

[MagmarFire]

*to Orpheous*

I believe there was no Majora's Mask in Termina before the events in MM. If you recall, the Happy Mask Salesman got it stolen from him by the Skull Kid in the Lost Woods. Sure, the Lost Woods are probably a connection between Hyrule and Termina, but that doesn't mean the Happy Mask Salesman got Majora's Mask from Termina, or even Hyrule for that matter. Skull Kid just brought Majora's Mask to Termina and began the game's events, from what I see.

Besides, Majora's Mask was sealed away to prevent people misusing its power. The HMS probably obtained it by breaking open the seal and getting it or finding it by other means. For all we know, he got it from the Dark World! We just don't know; thus, we can't say for sure where Majora's Mask came from, even if there are pictures of it in Termina and not Hyrule.

Moreover, not ALL properties of two objects have to be alike for them to be parallel. They just need correspondence, and it turns out that it's the characters' similarities that make the two worlds correspondent.

Anyway, what I'm saying is, we believing that Termina is parallel to Hyrule is just as feasible as you believing that it's not. There's nothing wrong with your theory, but you seem to be doing the same thing that you say we're doing by assuming yourself that your own theory is one hundred percent fact. No offense, but that's kind of hypocritical of you to say so.

Scratch that last part; I may be coming on too strong and accusing. Sorry about that.

[Orpheousanew2nd]

It's ok, I guess I just want a on hundred percent answer on what Termina was, so I guess my own theory kinda became my fact in my mind. I totally needed to be brought back to reality.   I wish Nintendo would just come out and say the one hundred perfect truth, but even they probably don't know.

[Bboy94]

It could just be coincidence.  The Triforce could very well mean something else to the Terminians.  Or, this article from Ice's Zelda Central Forums could help explain the Triforce's presence in Termina.

Man, I've been looking for that article for the longest time ever. Thanks!

[Penguin dude 2]

People seem to be doing the same thing in a different way. The Gerudo are still female only, and they still steal stuff, as they are pirates.
Oh, for your "same place" thingie, theres the Lost Woods. Just thought I'd tell you.

[DW]

It's ok, I guess I just want a on hundred percent answer on what Termina was, so I guess my own theory kinda became my fact in my mind. I totally needed to be brought back to reality.   I wish Nintendo would just come out and say the one hundred perfect truth, but even they probably don't know.

If they did that though, it would limit possibilities for future game ideas.

[Penguin dude 2]

Seeing how lands never get reused except for Hyrule, I don't think it would do that much.

[LadyNintendo]

If you propose a new idea to disprove mine, at least try to make sure that it would be easier to prove then mine. Because if yours would require more evidence that doesn't exist than mine does, than it is probably less likely to believe than mine. Thus, if you are only trying to make a theory to topple mine, you might not want to waste time posting it unless it is more feasible than mine, as I said. I am not discouraging you from posting, but I don't want you to end up wasting your time.

And BOOM it did.


You really put a lot of mines in that text.

Back on topic and back to the parallel issue. I don't think Termina is a parallel world to Hyrule, but I also don't think it's in the same dimension. My problem with the parallel issue is that Termina doesn't look like Hyrule at all and clearly was designed to be different. If you compare the two maps, you'll see that Nintendo has done its very best to come up with new environments (ones not in OOT) for MM, while still keeping things logical and diverse. Swamp, Mountain, Ocean and Canyon; none of these evironments can be found in OOT's Hyrule. The layout of Termina is completely different. As for the Terminans, I don't think they "can be" similar; they may appear similar to us, but most likely not to themselves. Remember Romani and Cremia? Well, we agree Romani is supposed to look young Malon and Cremia like older Malon. Just a question: how freaked out would you be if your younger brother/sister would look EXACTLY like you when you were his/her age? Or how freaked out would you be if you'd look in the mirror everyday just to discover you look like your big bro/sis again? I doubt that is the case for them, meaning that there are differences between their appearances, meaning they aren't Malon's döppelgangers.

[Penguin dude 2]

Snowhead was like Death Mountain, just, uh, snowy,
The mountain in the swamp looked a lot like Death Mountain, just diffrent colors.