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Started by Fairy penguin, February 28, 2007, 04:34:16 PM

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Commodore Axilon

Yeah, thanks for answering my points. 8)

Quote from: Fairy penguin on March 12, 2007, 04:11:53 PM
Yes, the Oracle Master Sword isn't the same. It's probably calles that because it's thew stronger version of the Noble Sword.

You don't think it's odd that it has the exact same name as the legendary Blade of Evil's Bane?

QuoteNintendo has NEVER backed anything it says up.

No arguing with you there. But I don't see what it has to do with anything.

QuoteAnd I believe the Sacred Realm was changed twice. The 1st time, when Ganon got in, and the sages sealed him in before he could get out, and OoTs. Who would the other sages be? I know Medli and the block of wood, but Medli doesn' seem strong enough to lift a hammer for the forge, and the block of wood is obvious.

What the fark are you talking about here? Elaborate.

QuoteAnd the LttP manual says that people were trying to get in the Sacred Realm and fighting the knights while the sages cast the spell. You can't say knights were protecting the sages in the final battle in OoT. There were no knights when the spell was cast! And people were living under Ganons rule, not trying to get in!

I'm always amused that people think ALttP's backstory must be exactly identical to OoT's plot. You're aware thousands of years must have passed, yes?

And, Fairy penguin, you know what a paragraph is, right? Try using some next time. Your posts hurt my eyes.

Fairy penguin

I mean, the story says a bunch of sages made the LttP Master Sword. Medli can't because it would take great magical power to make it. As I remember it she and the block of wood just prayed. They don't have magical powers. Maybe the block of wood for flying across the ocean, but nothing more.
I don't believe that it was thousands of years difference, but I'll try with thousands. Yes, the story could be changed, and it probably would. However, things like a great battle protecting the sages couldn't be changed. And I don't think people knew of the sages involvement.
I think people called it the Master Sword because it was they're best work, and they can't do better, so they call it that.
And the guy that says I've lost, no I haven't! And I won't give up!

Commodore Axilon

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Quote from: Fairy penguin on March 14, 2007, 04:31:40 PM
I mean, the story says a bunch of sages made the LttP Master Sword. Medli can't because it would take great magical power to make it. As I remember it she and the block of wood just prayed. They don't have magical powers. Maybe the block of wood for flying across the ocean, but nothing more.

Why do you assume it has to be any sages we've seen so far? It could easily be that an entirely new sages council was created in New Hyrule and they forged the new Master Sword. The first council had to come from somewhere you know, so I don't see why this would be that hard to believe.

QuoteI don't believe that it was thousands of years difference, but I'll try with thousands. Yes, the story could be changed, and it probably would. However, things like a great battle protecting the sages couldn't be changed. And I don't think people knew of the sages involvement.

I think that after a gigantic flood which wiped out the entire history of Hyrule, it's pretty amazing that they got as close as they did.

And Zelda knew. She could certainly start these stories.

QuoteI think people called it the Master Sword because it was they're best work, and they can't do better, so they call it that.

Okaaaaaaaay. And?

QuoteAnd the guy that says I've lost, no I haven't! And I won't give up!

Whatchoo' talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Fairy penguin

Can you tell me your timeline so I can understand some of the stuff you say? And I don't think another set of sages were made in Hyrule 2.
And for the Oracle Master Sword thingie, I got that idea from "The Crystal Shard". Good book. In it, theres this dwarf called Bruenor, and he makes this hammer called Aegis-Fang. He uses a bunch of special stuff, and he knows he can NEVER do better. Thats what I think happened wih the other Master Sword. And someone said the Zora king made the sword sharper, which explains why it's not the real Master Sword.

Commodore Axilon

OoT->MM->TP->TWW->PH->TMC->OoA/S->FS->FSA->ALttP->LA->TLoZ->AoL

One glorious single timeline, baby.

Master Dragmire

TP could never be after ALttP for at the end of it, it says,

                   "And the Master Sword sleeps,
                                FOREVER!..."

this would lead us to conclude that this is about the time the four sword was created......

Mysterious F.

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QuoteAkitsura

You do know you could have just looked at any of my posts to know that. Seriously, that was clearly intentional.

IT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT THERE IS A SPLIT TIMELINE, Commodore Axilon.

The Four Sword was made before LTTP, as shown by how it appeared in the Dark Pyramid in LTTP, (that's clearly there for a reason) and how, because the LTTP map resembles the FSA map, purposely, MC must be before LTTP.

And I never said it wasn't the real Master Sword, I said it was a different Master Sword. This DIFFERENT Master Sword isn't as powerful as the one from OOT/TP/TWW. In my timeline, it was later replaced by a more powerful sword.

LOZ and AOL are BEFORE LTTP.

I doubt entirely that the same idea in that book would apply to the Master Sword.

Fairy penguin

It's hard to read like, size 4 type. And does the 4 Sword in the Dark Pyramid count, since that was only the rerelease? I've never played it for the same reason I can't play 4 Swords, so I don't know what happens in it. Oh, and the LA manual NEVER says it was LttP Link. It says something like, you beat Ganon, and the people thought something else might come from his ashes. Not the specific time one of the Ganons was killed.

Mysterious F.

THE GANON, there is no second one!

The LA manual DOES say it, and the fact Agahnim and Ganon were Final Nightmare's tranformations help ALOT.

I do the capitalizaton thing for affect.

Oops, I forgot this in my last post:

QuoteAnd what will you do if I swear?

Give you a warning after numerous uses.

Commodore Axilon

Quote from: Kannochi on March 18, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
IT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT THERE IS A SPLIT TIMELINE, Commodore Axilon.

Even though you're obviously baiting me here, I'll bite anyway.

IT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE LINK.

IT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT TWW TAKES PLACE 100 YEARS AFTER OOT.

IT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT TP TAKES PLACE 100 YEARS AFTER OOT.

And they've a lot of other crazy stuff too. The fact is they're always changing what they think. They obviously have no real idea what they're talking about. They just want to make you complacent and unquestioning. They just want to make great games and don't really care how they fit together.

Fairy penguin

They have a big thingie saying how all the games go together. Also, TWW cannot take place 100 years later. It probably takes place around 800 years later. A brand new culture(s) can't be formed in 100 years. Also, I estimated Ganon came back 200 years later, because the seal couldn't break in 100 years. And TWW proves theres more than 1 Link. I don't care how you twist the game ending and time travelling thingies, he can't have a sister if he was born in another time, like OoT. Also, he wouldn't be as perplexed at seeing Hyrule, or about all the stuff the king told him. And TP seemed like a lot longer than 100 years, more like 250. Wow, it should be harder to prove Nintendo wrong. And WHERE does it say it's the same Link? Lots of Links fought Ganon, and isn't there an enemy like Aghanim in the Oracles as a mini-boss? And you'll give me lots of warnings?!?! ;D You sound like the school snitch.

Commodore Axilon

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QuoteThey have a big thingie saying how all the games go together.

Which I have yet to see compelling evidence for.

Mysterious F.

QuoteIT HAS BEEN SAID BY ZELDA GAME DESIGNERS THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE LINK.

Can you please tell me what site said that?

QuoteA brand new culture(s) can't be formed in 100 years.

Tell that to Alexander the Great, modern scientists from the late 1800s/early1900s, the rulers of Rome from 27 B.C., and the entire Muslim world and you'd be proven wrong immediately. You doubt the abilities of humanity, which is something I have little respect for. (note, this is not insulting you, I'm insulting the idea)

QuoteAnd TWW proves theres more than 1 Link. I don't care how you twist the game ending and time travelling thingies, he can't have a sister if he was born in another time, like OOT. Also, he wouldn't be as perplexed at seeing Hyrule, or about all the stuff the king told him.

That was among the most pointless three sentences ever. It makes no sense. Please explain.

Quoteisn't there an enemy like Aghanim in the Oracles as a mini-boss?

Yes, but this one acts differently: he can't survive in light, but LTTP Agahnim could.

QuoteAnd you'll give me lots of warnings?!?!  You sound like the school snitch.

I said, after cussing several times, I'd give you A warning.

Quote
QuoteThey have a big thingie saying how all the games go together.


Which I have yet to see compelling evidence for.

That actually disproves your single timeline theory.

Commodore Axilon

Quote from: Kannochi on March 19, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
Can you please tell me what site said that?

It was their official position a couple years back. I (sadly) cannot find any thing to help me, but I'm sure someone here can back me up. I'll understand if you don't take my word as proof, but there's still the other remarks they've made.

QuoteTell that to Alexander the Great, modern scientists from the late 1800s/early1900s, the rulers of Rome from 27 B.C., and the entire Muslim world and you'd be proven wrong immediately. You doubt the abilities of humanity, which is something I have little respect for. (note, this is not insulting you, I'm insulting the idea)

You're right, besides the fact that forcing a culture on somebody and one coming to be on its own are quite different; but that's not exactly why TWW being 100 years after OoT is impossible. The fact is: nobody can remember the Great Flood. 100 years is not nearly enough time for something like that to disappear completely.

QuoteThat actually disproves your single timeline theory.

Elaborate, you vile fiend.

Mysterious F.

When you said that, you actually said that you disproved the single timeline theory.