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Zant still alive? (TP spoilers)

Started by Fairy penguin, March 19, 2007, 03:20:43 PM

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Twilight Wolf

Here's what I think the whole neck-snapping thing means. Back in the Palace of Twilight, Zant said that even if he died, as long as Ganondorf lived, he would continue to be resurrected. I think the scene at the end of the game where Zant's neck snaps is supposed to symbolize that Ganondorf is dead, and as a result, Zant is also dead but cannot be resurrected.

How was Link able to kill Ganondorf? I believe it was because not only did he have the Master Sword, which has the power to banish evil, but because he also had the power of the Triforce. Link also exploited, for lack of a better word, a weak spot on Ganondorf's body: the wound he recieved from his sentencing when he was going to be banished to the Twilight Realm. I think having all of these factors working for him enabled him to kill Ganondorf.
What, you expect me to say something witty?

DW

I just realized this shouldn't be in Timeline, but in Theories...moving now...
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Mysterious F.

You obviously thought very well into it, TW, and I agree entirely with you. There is still the possibility that Zant found out Ganon had no care for him, and angrily or another emotion-ly destoryed his own spirit to kill Ganon.

IronKnuckle

Quote from: LadyNintendo on March 31, 2007, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: Kannochi on March 27, 2007, 10:42:14 AM
QuoteI don't believe the split timeline

How many times will I hear that? IT HAS BEEN SAID THERE IS A SPLIT TIMELINE!!!!!!!!!!!

I still believe that Ganon's death caused Zan't death (in one form or another) or Zant killed himself to kill Ganon.

And what else has been said that turned out to be flase or bullshit?

Answer: a lot.

Unless they are gonna use the split in the games, I'm not taking it as canon.
Your your saying that even if the story writter for the sieries says it is split, it still isn't canon? Aunonuma (how the heck do you spell his name?) confermed it.

Commodore Axilon

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Yes, because creator's intent is retarded when trying to logically discuss something using in-universe information.

Edit: Not to mention he's wildly inconsistent. The great ever-changing story is not a great way to gauge something's validity.

DW

Okay people, this isn't a discussion about timelines..I can't even believe we started talking about timelines, it's completely unrelated...

I think TW has a very good point, though. I mean, look at the timing of the neck snap compared to the apparent confirmation of Ganondorf's death.
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LadyNintendo

Isn't that pretty much what I said, with maybe a little different view on what caused Ganondorf's death?

Twilight Wolf

Quote from: LadyNintendo on July 06, 2007, 12:49:15 AM
Isn't that pretty much what I said, with maybe a little different view on what caused Ganondorf's death?

No, I don't believe so. I wouldn't have posted my theory if I thought what it contained had already been said. Actually, I wanted to make sure in advance that my theory was, for the most part, original, before I posted it.

And actually, I agree with your idea that Zant was killed by Midna's Twili powers. What I am unclear on, however, is whether or not Zant was resurrected by Ganondorf after he was killed in this way. After thinking it over, I believe he may have been revived, but not for very long. I think that if he were dead before the battle with Ganondorf, there would be no need for the whole neck-snapping thing. And to tie this all together, it may be that once Ganondorf was killed by Link, whatever power Ganondorf transferred to Zant to revive him left both of them at once, and they both died as a result, hence the neck-snap scene.
What, you expect me to say something witty?

LadyNintendo

Don't worry, I didn't intend to accuse you of plagiarism. :) I noticed out theories are very similar. Whether Zant actually was resurrected of only half dead beacuse of the link with Ganondorf, the accompanying theory is the same. Point is that people (Whocares) quite suddenly changed their opinion, considering how similar our theories are. I found that odd.

Mysterious F.

One of my many factors is that I can quickly change my opinion over something.  :'(

Well, TW posted the thoery more recently, and few people ever bother reading the old part of the discussion, even if it actually holds important stuff.

Bboy94

Maybe he wasn't resurected. It seemed to me like Ganon was calling out to Zant for help, but then the neck snapping scene shows that Zant is dead and cannot aid him. Which Ganondorf didn't know.

DW

I think Ganondorf would definitely know if Zant died. I mean, if I imbued some of my being into another person, and that suddenly ceased to exist, I would notice. I think. Then again, I've never done it ::)
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Bboy94

Well, whats it like when you kill someone that is trapped in shadow possesion. That sort of connection could be similar.

DW

I doubt it's as serious as that, since Ganondorf didn't die the first time you killed Zant.
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Bboy94

No, you misunderstand. It wasn't that killing Zant killed Ganondorf, it was that Ganondorf couldn't get help from Zant because he was dead.